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Title: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: seykid31 on Sep 05, 01:32 AM 2012
Was wondering,how many guys here have read the book thirteen against the bank???They got banned playing in france as a team.System was simple,they work a shift of 3 hours each,12 were players.6 players a shift,each cover an even chance,one black,one red,one high,one low,one odd,one even.Using Reverser labouchere progression.
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: wento on Sep 05, 02:01 AM 2012
link:://:.scribd.com/mobile/doc/37742684 (link:://:.scribd.com/mobile/doc/37742684)

This is a link to the book if anyone is interested
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Robeenhuut on Sep 05, 02:12 AM 2012
Quote from: seykid31 on Sep 05, 01:32 AM 2012
Was wondering,how many guys here have read the book thirteen against the bank???They got banned playing in france as a team.System was simple,they work a shift of 3 hours each,12 were players.6 players a shift,each cover an even chance,one black,one red,one high,one low,one odd,one even.Using Reverser labouchere progression.

Hey Seykid.  Are you planning to repeat this feat? ;D
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: dino246 on Sep 05, 02:55 AM 2012
It's a great read,would make a good movie as well.
Main man in the book recruited in my home town all those years ago !!

Dino.
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: seykid31 on Sep 05, 02:56 AM 2012
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Sep 05, 02:12 AM 2012
Hey Seykid.  Are you planning to repeat this feat? ;D
:D  must get 12 guys first

But i must say,interesting way of play the reverse labouchere
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Ralph on Sep 05, 02:58 AM 2012
They got lucky just, but the smartest was the inventor, he got his share, and the other 12 took all risks. The book do not exactly give the correct view.
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: wento on Sep 05, 08:31 AM 2012
Hey can anyone actually explain what methods or system they say they used in the book? I haven't had time to read the book with work and other things
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Ralph on Sep 05, 10:11 AM 2012
Quote from: wento on Sep 05, 08:31 AM 2012
Hey can anyone actually explain what methods or system they say they used in the book? I haven't had time to read the book with work and other things

That question is already answered by the first poster.
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: wento on Sep 05, 10:15 AM 2012
I was more After the laby they used... But I had a quick skim through and it was a basic 1,2,3,4...
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Ralph on Sep 05, 10:17 AM 2012
Quote from: wento on Sep 05, 10:15 AM 2012
I was more After the laby they used... But I had a quick skim through and it was a basic 1,2,3,4...

If used keep it low. 1233 or 1111

If played once to go for big, you can take larger.
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: woods101 on Sep 05, 07:07 PM 2012
Has anyone tested as is possible to play again now with low table bets...?
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Ralph on Sep 05, 10:42 PM 2012
Here just the starting  bet is low, you aim for the table limit!!!
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: seykid31 on Sep 05, 11:57 PM 2012
Quote from: woods101 on Sep 05, 07:07 PM 2012
Has anyone tested as is possible to play again now with low table bets...?
I tested it with a few actuals,its quite good actually,considering the amount you waging.I guess a guy who wants to play this way is to play same table everyday,same even chance,same time of day,eg.Table 1,Black Chance,1p.m to 4 p.m everyday.
Just for an example this.Dont bite me head off  ;)
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Ralph on Sep 06, 12:33 AM 2012
Betting black at night and red at daytime is not the worse bet selection, in fact that's proven.
Anybody of other view are welcome with proof.
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Robeenhuut on Sep 06, 12:50 AM 2012
Its coded in Rx as 1,2,3,4 staking plan.
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: bossdarling on Sep 06, 05:00 AM 2012
Indeed, the book is interesting. But there's extensive research on Reverse Labouchere disproving Leigh's claim here: link:://:.joecainey.co.uk/gambling/proof.html#Download (link:://:.joecainey.co.uk/gambling/proof.html#Download) . The reviewer believes that Leigh might actually tried the 13 system in Nice, but not successful as he claimed.

I also heard two different personal stories from both sides. Leigh's nice said that his late uncle was a great man, lovable person, and indeed made a fortune in Nice.

The other story is from Leigh's team member's side, claiming that Leigh is a con-man selling system to others. He didn't even put the bankroll, and ask 33% to 50% from the students. He got fortune from who won, and didn't take risks from those who loss.

We never know which side tells the truth, but we can use Occam's Razor here. However, playing all EC bets individually with right progression, if any, is quite appealing.

Cheers,
-bd
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: jarabo002 on Sep 06, 12:53 PM 2012
The perfect would be a RX code for play with 6 EC at the same time.
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: GLC on Sep 06, 01:06 PM 2012
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=2904.msg26450#msg26450 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=2904.msg26450#msg26450)

I have tested the reverse labby with unimpressive results.  Using Mr. Oops tweak helps substantially, but this type betting isn't my cup of tea.

Luck to all,

George
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Turner on Sep 06, 05:12 PM 2012
Hey...Ive just been watchin the A-team.... I like Mr T best.....Suckers!!!..lol...hes so funny.

Does anyone know how they managed to build a giant armoured tank from a childs pram and 6 tins of soup?
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Robeenhuut on Sep 07, 01:29 AM 2012
Quote from: GLC on Sep 06, 01:06 PM 2012
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=2904.msg26450#msg26450 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=2904.msg26450#msg26450)

I have tested the reverse labby with unimpressive results.  Using Mr. Oops tweak helps substantially, but this type betting isn't my cup of tea.

Luck to all,

George

Yeah  most gamblers think that winning big in casino with Reversed Labby, Tier et Tout or any similar system happens only in books.   :o
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Ralph on Sep 07, 02:02 AM 2012
It is of  of course not impossible. The question is how many of us starting with a few bucks, and manage to reach 400-500, have the guts to continue, Most will start again or rather quit.

Most of the players I see by the tables, use to stop at new high, some seems to be happy to break even.
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 07, 02:26 AM 2012
Quote from: GLC on Sep 06, 01:06 PM 2012
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=2904.msg26450#msg26450 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=2904.msg26450#msg26450)

I have tested the reverse labby with unimpressive results.  Using Mr. Oops tweak helps substantially, but this type betting isn't my cup of tea.

Luck to all,

George

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Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Robeenhuut on Sep 07, 02:34 AM 2012
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Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 07, 02:55 AM 2012
thanks RH  :)
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Robeenhuut on Sep 07, 03:41 AM 2012
Quote from: Ralph on Sep 07, 02:02 AM 2012
It is of  of course not impossible. The question is how many of us starting with a few bucks, and manage to reach 400-500, have the guts to continue, Most will start again or rather quit.

Most of the players I see by the tables, use to stop at new high, some seems to be happy to break even.

Actually the odds are not so bad considering potential payout. If your starting line is only 4 numbers then you lose your initial bank after just 2 consecutive losses  of course but especially on higher levels if you manage to stay afloat few wins in a row can make you a huge profit. You can use a longer starting line as well.  The problem is that you need to have a winning sequences separated by occasional losses  later in the progression and it could take hours.  Although a possibility of winning 2000 or 3000 times your starting line seems very tempting very few would go for it but maybe its the reason we dont hear more success stories. :smile:   Tier et Tout would be already too nerve wrecking for most....
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 07, 07:00 AM 2012
Quote from: seykid31 on Sep 05, 11:57 PM 2012
I tested it with a few actuals,its quite good actually,considering the amount you waging.I guess a guy who wants to play this way is to play same table everyday,same even chance,same time of day,e.g..Table 1,Black Chance,1p.m to 4 p.m everyday.
Just for an example this.don't bite me head off  ;)


--Exactly like that.....did it 2 weeks in the row from 9pm-4am,every night
on the very same table...E/B versus R/O.....as you see it took me 2 weeks
to even things up......but again without enormous BR one can't do this.
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Robeenhuut on Sep 08, 03:02 AM 2012
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 07, 07:00 AM 2012

--Exactly like that.....did it 2 weeks in the row from 9pm-4am,every night
on the very same table...E/B versus R/O.....as you see it took me 2 weeks
to even things up......but again without enormous BR one can't do this.

Did you try to go all the way until you reached table limit like in the book? 
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Robeenhuut on Sep 22, 03:53 AM 2012
I tested 100 10k spins sessions on RNG -  1M spins  ;D . In each session it was at some point in a positive territory so i declare it a Holy One.  ;D It passed 1M spins. There is a hope. Start your bots and bring around 15000u BR.....
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: wento on Sep 22, 05:04 AM 2012
At some point lol... And some point most pple at a casino are positive... It the losses that follow that stop everyone and greed
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Ralph on Sep 23, 10:37 AM 2012
In labby neg you win if you can get 1/3 of the bets on your side.
Using the reverse you have to win 2/3 of the bets.

In neg you cancel two if you win, add one if you lose.

In reverse you cross two on loss and add one on win.
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Robeenhuut on Sep 24, 02:00 AM 2012
Quote from: Ralph on Sep 23, 10:37 AM 2012
In labby neg you win if you can get 1/3 of the bets on your side.
Using the reverse you have to win 2/3 of the bets.

In neg you cancel two if you win, add one if you lose.

In reverse you cross two on loss and add one on win.

No easy feat but in 50 spins you can go from 10 to 30000  ;D Yeah its just a pleasant thought.
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: iggiv on Sep 24, 06:14 AM 2012
and be banned from this casino long before u reach your goal
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Ralph on Sep 24, 07:59 AM 2012
Where are they banning just for winning? I have never found a case  in real life. In Germany they do not mind a computer, if you not disturb other players. I have seen it on place in Hamburg.

If you win they want you to play more. Banning for cheating I know about.

They have lower HE than in America, there most of the banning I hear rumors  about take place.
Prison for a device, it is unknown in most of Europe.

Many who claim they are banned, are banned by them self, or forced to do so from relatives.
You can put restriction on your self, you are in a way banned then, but usually not for winning.


Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Robeenhuut on Sep 25, 04:33 AM 2012
Quote from: iggiv on Sep 24, 06:14 AM 2012
and be banned from this casino long before u reach your goal

I think there was a guy on this forum that claimed that a casino prohibited him from using Reversed Labby  ;D Dont get me wrong that i advocate this kind of play but if the spread allowed it you could go for it.
Title: Re: THIRTEEN AGAINST THE BANK
Post by: Ralph on Sep 25, 04:42 AM 2012
If you ever reach the table limit, its is better then using reverse labby than martingale! ;D