It is mainly a game of luck.
Today I used all kinds of methods, known since 100 years.
Some a bit tweaked, sometimes I bet by gut feeling.
A few times I got some downdraw, but every session was won.
When we test a method for many spins, it use to fail at the end, if it works must be nothing but a lucky outcome for the method, the wheel was not nasty.
There are many evidence for this, as it is allways impossible to make a bet which for sure win.
Did quite a few sessions today,
All session could be a loss, but it did not happen, it is a game of Chance!
430 â,¬ in 7 mins :thumbsup:
can you play for me :twisted:
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 14, 03:30 PM 2012
430 â,¬ in 7 mins :thumbsup:
can you play for me :twisted:
You may lose your money!
This round is not special at all except for the bets, there was a hit with higher stakes just. Won some before and trying then to get a 10 Euro straight up, got after some time a few and the progression was 80.
So the speed of winning is stake and luck.
yeap2 ... and common denominator is dont play long term.
and i dont have a problem with that :twisted:
congrats ralph!
inside bets i suppose ?
Mostly straight up,
I used most of the time seven straight up.
Selected the last 7 numbers.
Started with the last, and added one up to seven numbers. Then flat bet this seven numbers, until a hit. Add a chip to the winning numbers and continue.
There is no rule when to stop, if it comes a double or two, it can bring 100 and more a session.
Do not go for it with a small bankroll, it can take some time before a winning streak will come.
The odds are very low, not to win, but BEWARE a loss can be very expency!!
"add a chip on the winning numbers and continue"
so you keep playing with the same 7 numbers and if 1 hits you add a chip on all of them ?
or do you change to the last 7 numbers when you get a hit and add a chip on these ?
No.
I start with one chip, the last number shown. Play it, and if it hit add a chip, otherwise bet the two, until seven numbers.
You add a chip to the winning numbers only, never reduce the bet.
If a number hits again add a chip.
The strategy is to fetch those numbers with high hit rate, they have higher for every hit .
thats what i'm asking, do you keep playing with the same 7 numbers all the time, or do you change them sometimes ?
Between our posts I played a session which I attach pictures.
I play only 7 numbers, the seven last numbers, and I start play the first shown, as it can hit again.
After seven numbers I just play them, and do not change the number in this session.
So the number played are the first seven numbers in picture one.
Next session I start with a cent bet on an EC, to see my first number to bet.
You can follow the session on the pictures, there are three from the marquee, as the numbers overlap. you can follow from one to an other picture.
The chip was 0.1 and over 160 plus then I decide to stop.
Here is a short one, a triple 9.
Maybe easier to follow.
dont worry ralph, i completely understand it, just didnt know if you stayed with the same numbers all the time or not.
thanks for the tips :thumbsup:
Ralph
I just made 500 units doing this. Let me see if I'm doing it right.
On BVNZ, I spun seven numbers and played them. When one of the hit, I upped it a unit. I did this until several hit and then started over with seven new numbers.
What bugged me what I saw several other number hitting like fire and I wasn't on them. I think playing this along with Mr j's "Catch the 8 Train" could be very interesting.
Sam
made another 649 units.
Hey, Ralph!
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Sep 16, 07:50 PM 2012
Ralph
I just made 500 units doing this. Let me see if I'm doing it right.
On BVNZ, I spun seven numbers and played them. When one of the hit, I upped it a unit. I did this until several hit and then started over with seven new numbers.
What bugged me what I saw several other number hitting like fire and I wasn't on them. I think playing this along with Mr j's "Catch the 8 Train" could be very interesting.
Sam
Yes very often an other number hit much, we never know before.
I have tested to move to another number, move the least hit.
Then you may get the hits, or the moved number start hitting.
It is allways a weak point in all methods. Catch 8, is when you bet the only five-hit, you do not win on numbers hitting 5:th time.
If all seven number hits about equal times, do not push it too much, if one or two number hit much, you should push more. You can get a pile of 10 on the most hitted number, and then just a few of the other, and win on most chips.
If all numbers suddenly sleep you can loose. If you allready won 10000 its still OK, and that's possible several times, before the RFH, which will come. If you suspect, start all over in time.
Well, the RFH got me!!
Went to .02 per number and lost 10.00E. Now stand at +149 pennies.
I am beginning to think to never play a system three times in a row. Third seems to always get me.
Sam
The RFH will come, I sometimes struggle against, but often start over. The reason i do not have red figures in my history, is I do not quit the session until green.
1000 or less should be the stop(but not loss), start over, most of the time it works.
If you have been down, and have higher stakes, stop when you are break even, or even on a loss, next time will recover.
Its a thing I have found also Sam, I method will work for a while, change and come back later.
Same for testing. First test allways looks like a holy grail
Quote from: turnerfeck on Sep 17, 09:29 AM 2012
Same for testing. First test allways looks like a holy grail
Yes play while testing, and stop when you think it is working! ;D
Thought because I won some the last days, so I decide to make some higher stakes, and risk some of it.
Started the seven numbers with 25 Euro chips. Did three sessions, went not bad, but had to stop due to I was not possible to stack more than 4 chips, 100 is table limit.
Won fewer chips, but the chips were 250-fold. Three time is probably what is not too insane to do, and now go back to 0.1.
Ralph..
I need this idea clarifying mate...
Is it A)?
22 (bet 22) 14 (bet 22,14) 6 (bet 22,14,6) 32 (bet 22,14,6,32) 23(bet 22,14,6, 32, 23) 29(bet 22,14,6, 32, 23, 29) 36(bet 22,14,6, 32, 23, 29, 36) 17(bet 22,14,6, 32, 23, 29, 36)14 WIN.... (bet 22,14(2U),6, 32, 23, 29, 36)
Question: until when?
And is it B)?
22 (bet 22) 14 (bet 22,14) 6 (bet 22,14,6) 32 (bet 22,14,6,32) 22 WIN (bet 22(2U),14,6,32)
33 (bet 22(2U),14,6,32,33) 14 WIN (bet 22(2U),14(2U),6,32,33) 1(bet 22(2U),14(2U),6,32,33,1)
or is it C)
22,14,6,32,23,29,36 (bet 22,14,6,32,23,29,36) 17 (bet 22,14,6,32,23,29,36)
TF,
its a & b.
Quote from: turnerfeck on Sep 17, 02:27 PM 2012
Ralph..
I need this idea clarifying mate...
Is it A)?
22 (bet 22) 14 (bet 22,14) 6 (bet 22,14,6) 32 (bet 22,14,6,32) 23(bet 22,14,6, 32, 23) 29(bet 22,14,6, 32, 23, 29) 36(bet 22,14,6, 32, 23, 29, 36) 17(bet 22,14,6, 32, 23, 29, 36)14 WIN.... (bet 22,14(2U),6, 32, 23, 29, 36)
Question: until when?
And is it B)?
22 (bet 22) 14 (bet 22,14) 6 (bet 22,14,6) 32 (bet 22,14,6,32) 22 WIN (bet 22(2U),14,6,32)
33 (bet 22(2U),14,6,32,33) 14 WIN (bet 22(2U),14(2U),6,32,33) 1(bet 22(2U),14(2U),6,32,33,1)
or is it C)
22,14,6,32,23,29,36 (bet 22,14,6,32,23,29,36) 17 (bet 22,14,6,32,23,29,36)
I am not sure I understand your question.
Bet until when? Yes it is a judgment, if it hits you go on, if you got a reasonable profit and still some missing, stop, or if your loss grows, you may stop. I use to average have about 100 units plus when start over,
Your number question I am not sure of what you want to know.
You bet first one number, and then 234567 after seven no more numbers.
If any number hit, you add a chip, if it hit again add an other chip.
(We try to have highest stakes on frequent hitting numbers.)
It is a no rule when to stop, its up to players own judgment. We never know when numbers
stop hitting for long.
There are MM rules when to stop playing either when winning o when losing.
No better way than to fight the casinos with this two sided sword. I always let them know WHO the boss is.
( I enjoy the stupid looks on the face of the dealers)
Therein lies my success at the tables.Its not only the system or method that can make me a winner.
N.D.
I don`t gamble......... The casino does by permitting me to play there.
The play for today! Not very much problem, went smooth.
Quote from: Ralph on Sep 17, 02:55 PM 2012
I am not sure I understand your question.
Bet until when? Yes it is a judgment, if it hits you go on, if you got a reasonable profit and still some missing, stop, or if your loss grows, you may stop. I use to average have about 100 units plus when start over,
Your number question I am not sure of what you want to know.
You bet first one number, and then 234567 after seven no more numbers.
If any number hit, you add a chip, if it hit again add an other chip.
(We try to have highest stakes on frequent hitting numbers.)
It is a no rule when to stop, its up to players own judgment. We never know when numbers
stop hitting for long.
So its static (same seven, even 15 or 25 spins later) and not dynamic(its allways the last 7)
Thanks Ralph....
Ralph, I ran a small test with the 1 U added after a wn, and one without.
They seem similar but the bet "with +1U" gets very "Heavy" when the bet is losing.
Does it make any sense (law of the 3rd) to use the same 7 past 37 spins. Amazingly, it seems to work right up to that point.
Just a thought mate. (I love repeater systems.)
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Crud
I was doing it wrong.
(Held a small alligator today. Hated it! He should be free!)
Sam
They normally not last mote than around 37 spins, as your graph you are up 300 as highest, I have 100 up as average sessions. Try to detect it suspected bad early, start over with new numbers.
Flat betting can work, but rounds which clearly get fast repeaters can add up to great winnings.
If it hits add an go, until a few missed, this runs can give up to 1000 .A run which not get repeaters until 20 spins or more, is allways a flat and bad run.
You can lose this is not 100%, I have stopped several times but could recover in the new trials.
I do not think this is to run in a bot, you have to judge when to stop.
The time to stop is hard to decide, the hitting starts soon or later, depends on player and bankroll.
Did a session from bed. This went down 600 units, few hits, just to make bigger bet size and slowly go backwards.
The decisions are stop or go on with or without doping.
I decide at one point doping, and expect some hits. Remember even if down, a hit on a pile of several chips put you up by 100 or more.
This time I was working plus at over 290 units.
The doping was add 5 at a hit.
If you use doping, you have to get a larger bankroll and stomach to do it, a loss is not impossible,
but the hits use to come.
Attach the play.
This was 1200 units back, went up to plus 500+ units in a short hitting streak.
The high pile was 28, stake on 6 and 11.
The last bet is a loss, as I do not stop if it is hot numbers hitting.
If down and high piles, the recover is fast if the winning streak comes.
i don't know if its coincidence but every time i play at BV i notice that the following 7 numbers falls within the first 35 spins 1 8 9 11 26 27 32 and eventually repeats some times
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 18, 02:39 AM 2012
i don't know if its coincidence but every time i play at BV i notice that the following 7 numbers falls within the first 35 spins 1 8 9 11 26 27 32 and eventually repeats some times
I think it can happen for a while, I had 11 hitting for two days, a year ago.
I bet just eleven straight up, and won not small.
Try to use this numbers.
It is a coincidence, but we see such phenomena often.
Quote from: Ralph on Sep 17, 11:58 PM 2012
They normally not last mote than around 37 spins, as your graph you are up 300 as highest, I have 100 up as average sessions. Try to detect it suspected bad early, start over with new numbers.
Flat betting can work, but rounds which clearly get fast repeaters can add up to great winnings.
If it hits add an go, until a few missed, this runs can give up to 1000 .A run which not get repeaters until 20 spins or more, is allways a flat and bad run.
You can lose this is not 100%, I have stopped several times but could recover in the new trials.
I do not think this is to run in a bot, you have to judge when to stop.
The time to stop is hard to decide, the hitting starts soon or later, depends on player and bankroll.
Agreed
It can drop out the sky quick. You can't have autopilot on. U must have control of the joystick
I got a terrible run, back 2000, and decide to ride it out. Did it, but risking much. at the end I got three hit on the high pile (12). Mmm, the hole may be on the corner. As a matter of fact, it should allready be here by normal swing in outcomes. Still in a good streak of sessions.
I will play some EC for a while, and use inside later.
I saw the test for randomness of the BV wheel done by Turnerfeck. Three numbers were a slight
more hit on, it passed the test.
I bet on 2,22,23 and let it run by autospin, and decide to see if it could win 100 units on flat betting.
It did, but if I had used zero, it would be 500 in the same number of spins.
It's a coincidence it will not work all the time. Or in very long run, it may be a point this will work,
by coincidence it may be 100 plus at a point every time in a long session?
I mean for any bet, and noZero!
Or need I have Donald Duck as cuisine to fix it?
Played a few minutes before bed. Won back 500 of the 1,000 I lost. (Which I had won! Now up 649.)
Thanks for this idea, Ralph!
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Sep 18, 06:25 AM 2012
Played a few minutes before bed. Won back 500 of the 1,000 I lost. (Which I had won! Now up 649.)
Thanks for this idea, Ralph!
Sam
You are welcome Sam!
Hope you will have god hittings on the seven numbers! :)
Ralph
You must name this system. Can't call it EL CINCO de RALPHO as there are seven numbers.
I'm thinking THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN.
What sayest thou?
Samster in Key West Florida
Lucky 7
I'll go with LUCKY 7.
Ralph?
You guys really should look into this idea.
I don't think it's all luck. May be a little Voodoo in there!
Sam