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Title: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Ralph on Sep 17, 03:54 AM 2012
RBRR RRRR BBR  BRR BB BRBB BRBB   BRBB RRR BBB B   R BBBB BB BBB   BBB B BBB BBB BB RRR R

This is as unlikely as all were BLACK, A sharp eye will see this sticks out even more than all were BLACK. Should it pass a random test?
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 17, 04:11 AM 2012
i think it does because i think the "random test" counts for the numbers and not for ec's.

its normal that in a certain string there are more ec's then other, they will catch up sooner / later or slowly / fast.... who knows :-)
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Ralph on Sep 17, 04:18 AM 2012
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 17, 04:11 AM 2012
i think it does because i think the "random test" counts for the numbers and not for ECs.

its normal that in a certain string there are more ECs then other, they will catch up sooner / later or slowly / fast.... who knows :-)

please have a closer look, this string is NOT random. 30 Black is more likley.

Random outcome has high entropy, this has low.
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 17, 04:22 AM 2012
Why should 30 be more likely in a string of 60 spins ?

Thats 50%

The string you show has 40 blacks in 60 spins...
That nothing uncommon.

In percentages i have seen in 100 spins an EC go below 20%, short after that it catches up.
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Ralph on Sep 17, 04:30 AM 2012
Look at the pattern, its very low entropy, meaning it carry information, which a random string very unlikley do, one in billions may be.
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Drazen on Sep 17, 05:22 AM 2012
Quote from: Ralph on Sep 17, 04:30 AM 2012
Look at the pattern, its very low entropy, meaning it carry information, which a random string very unlikley do, one in billions may be.

In one way this is perfectly normal distribution... If we observe it through law of singles and series, every single has value of 0 and serie value of 1, no matter how long it is..

So lets calcualte STD, but first lets group it right then. That sequence of yours should look like this then:

R B RRRR BB R B RR BBB R BBB R BBB R BB RRR BBBB R BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB RRRR

So we have 11 series and 8 singles

First you have to get the Absolute Std when you calculate.

Then you take 11-8 = 3

Now we want to get the statistical std so we continue with...

11 + 8 = 19

Now we take the sqr of 19 = 4.35

And finally we divide the Absolute Std  whit the sqr

3 /(sqr 4.35)= 0.68 or -0.68 depending what/how you observe

Which is my friend normal as being black skinned in central Africa

When you reach std of 3.0 and above that means something

But on contrary i have never seen one serie long 23 values...
And I bet this isnt sequence from live wheel...


Cheers

Drazen
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Ralph on Sep 17, 06:05 AM 2012
Still anybody not find the hidden message! It is not random, and will hardly never be.
Should be fun to run a lot of spins looking for information.

This is a coded message.
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Drazen on Sep 17, 06:16 AM 2012
Quote from: Ralph on Sep 17, 06:05 AM 2012
Still anybody not find the hidden message! It is not random, and will hardly never be.
Should be fun to run a lot of spins looking for information.

This is a coded message.

Well i just decrypted that hidden message of yours, didnt I? You are the one who doesnt see message in my post my friend.. Read it again.

For me roulette is not random at all. Observing thorugh mathematical aspect like i showed you, or physical when you can predict where the ball has most chances to fall into...

And i will repeat question? From where did you get this sequence? From your head or some cheating RNG?

Cheers

Drazen

Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 17, 08:40 AM 2012
Ralph,

" YO WILL LOSE THIS SESSIOT "

your string should be

rbrr rrr bbr brr bb brbb brbb brbb rrr bbb b r bbbb bb bbb bbb b bbb bbb bb rrr rb

to let it say "YOU WILL LOSE THIS SESSION"  ;)
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Turner on Sep 17, 09:05 AM 2012
Morse code...black is dot red is dash. Good fun ralph
Drazen...you come across very rude at times. don't know if its intentional. It wasn't an exam. It was a bit of fun
Turner
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Ralph on Sep 17, 09:10 AM 2012
Turnerfeck and  Stepkevh!

Yes its Morse, I learnt it a while ago during my national service, this time it was Morse and horses.

Should be fun to run a lot of spins and see if series of information, are just as likely as random.
It was an error in the code, just one, which is expected from receive, in real world, you must understand the message every time.
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 17, 09:13 AM 2012
when he said "didnt you find the hidden message" i tought directly at morsecode .

and red is dash and black dot .

yes it was fun, if roulette was decripted this way then it would be lot of fun :-)
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Turner on Sep 17, 09:14 AM 2012
Ralph...are you familiar with "some mothers do have em" with frank spencer(michael crawford)?
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 17, 09:19 AM 2012
it should be funny to play with your decripted morse code against a wheel and see what it brings  :twisted:
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Ralph on Sep 17, 09:23 AM 2012
Change it to "I will win" then! ;D
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 17, 09:25 AM 2012
or " i will beat you even it is the last thing i will do ! "   ;D
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Ralph on Sep 17, 09:29 AM 2012
Quote from: turnerfeck on Sep 17, 09:14 AM 2012
Ralph...are you familiar with "some mothers do have em" with frank spencer(michael crawford)?
Sorry I do not know, may try Wikepedia! ;)
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 17, 09:53 AM 2012
Quote from: turnerfeck on Sep 17, 09:14 AM 2012
Ralph...are you familiar with "some mothers do have em" with frank spencer(michael crawford)?

here in belgium we have something thats based on that, its called (litterly translated)
"mothers prettiest".
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Turner on Sep 17, 10:02 AM 2012
Well...the theme tune was morse code for "some mothers do have em".
Dot dot dot (s) etc. Composed by Ronnie Hazlehurst. He liked to toy with music.
Title: Re: Unlikley streaks
Post by: Drazen on Sep 17, 10:54 AM 2012
Quote from: turnerfeck on Sep 17, 09:05 AM 2012
Morse code...black is dot red is dash. Good fun ralph
Drazen...you come across very rude at times. don't know if its intentional. It wasn't an exam. It was a bit of fun
Turner

Sorry i have to admit that i didnt catch the poant at first.. But what was offensive there for the name of all? I told you good trick, but you cant understand it can you?

Not everyone are here to beat the game obviously...

So enjoy your fun guys

Cheers

Drazen