This is an adaptation of Atlantis' system on lines for those of you who would like to try it on double dozens.
Track until you have only 2 dozens/columns in the last 4 spins.
Now bet those 2 dozens/columns using the following GLAT groups:
W end set at +1. Bet next set at same unit size.
LWW end set at even. Bet next set at same unit size.
LWLWWW end set at even. Bet next set at same unit size.
LWLL end set at -5. Bet next set at +1 units to current bet size.
LWLWWL end set at -3. Bet next set at +1 unit to current bet size.
LL end set at -4. Bet next set at +1 unit to current bet size.
Remember, we're betting 2 dozens so we will be betting the above units on both dozens. To play the GLAT progression, I suggest that you only bet 1 time for each trigger. We can't track for another trigger until the missing dozen hits. Then we start tracking from it to get our 2 out of 4 dozens.
Any time we get all 3 dozens in the last 4 spins, we continue tracking.
For those of you who are more aggressive, you can bet for one of the 2 dozens to hit within the next say 4 spins and use the standard double dozen martingale progression of 1-1; 3-3; 9-9; 27-27. To lose, you need to have 4 of the other dozen to hit in a row. Also, any zero can replace one of the dozens to make up the 4 losses.
You'll see when playing that you rarely go past the 3rd bet without a win.
Examples:
1213 No bet. All 3 dozens in the last 4 spins.
1221 This is a trigger for a bet. We can't look for 2 in 4 until the number 3 dozens finally hits. So 122112221 still no bet. We continue: 1221122213 Okay, now we have a break in the 1 and 2 dozen run start tracking from the 3 dozen.
1221122213233 Okay, now we have another trigger to bet for the 1 dozen to hit.
Another example: 133133122332112223132232 The red numbers are triggers and the blue numbers are wins.
Quote from: GLC on Apr 22, 11:57 PM 2013
This is an adaptation of Atlantis' system on lines for those of you who would like to try it on double dozens.
Track until you have only 2 dozens/columns in the last 4 spins.
Now bet those 2 dozens/columns using the following GLAT groups:
W end set at +1. Bet next set at same unit size.
LWW end set at even. Bet next set at same unit size.
LWLWWW end set at even. Bet next set at same unit size.
LWLL end set at -5. Bet next set at +1 units to current bet size.
LWLWWL end set at -3. Bet next set at +1 unit to current bet size.
LL end set at -4. Bet next set at +1 unit to current bet size.
Remember, we're betting 2 dozens so we will be betting the above units on both dozens. To play the GLAT progression, I suggest that you only bet 1 time for each trigger. We can't track for another trigger until the missing dozen hits. Then we start tracking from it to get our 2 out of 4 dozens.
Any time we get all 3 dozens in the last 4 spins, we continue tracking.
For those of you who are more aggressive, you can bet for one of the 2 dozens to hit within the next say 4 spins and use the standard double dozen martingale progression of 1-1; 3-3; 9-9; 27-27. To lose, you need to have 4 of the other dozen to hit in a row. Also, any zero can replace one of the dozens to make up the 4 losses.
You'll see when playing that you rarely go past the 3rd bet without a win.
Examples:
1213 No bet. All 3 dozens in the last 4 spins.
1221 This is a trigger for a bet. We can't look for 2 in 4 until the number 3 dozens finally hits. So 122112221 still no bet. We continue: 1221122213 Okay, now we have a break in the 1 and 2 dozen run start tracking from the 3 dozen.
1221122213233 Okay, now we have another trigger to betfor the 1 dozen to hit.
Another example: 133133122332112223132232 The red numbers are triggers and the blue numbers are wins.
The above statement in Green should read "for the 2 & 3 dozens to hit". Sorry about that.
Can one of the Mods/Admin team make the alteration to GLC's original post, to avoid confusion.
Its a genuine error, and we don't need the same error printing Twice!
Cheers
Here's the system. I've been playing this on my airball machine for quarters. I'm up over 200 units. I play the forced win progression.
1-1; 2-2; 3-3; 4-4; 5-5; 6-6; 7-7; etc...
As long as I'm in the hole, I play +1 win or lose until I'm at a new high bank amount. I never bet more than necessary to reach +1.
Example: If I just won a 10-10 bet and I'm at -5, my next bet is 6-6. If I win, I'm +1 so I reset. If I lose my next bet is 7-7 and I'm back in the forced win progression.
The GLAT works great, it's just a little too safe to be playing it for quarters.
Here's the bet selection process.
We always check the last 4 decisions to decide what to bet on and/or if we can bet.
If we have only 2 dozens in the 4 spins and they have split 2 and 2 like this 2332 or 2233 or 1212 etc... we bet those two dozens.
If we have only 2 dozens in the 4 spins and they have split 1 and 3 like this 2122 or 1333 or 3323 etc... or if we have on 1 dozen in the 4 spins, we bet against the dozen that has hit 3 times or 4 times.
Example: 2122 we bet the 1 & 3 dozens. 1333 we bet the 1 & 2 dozens. 2222 we bet the 1 and 3 dozens etc...
If we have 3 dozens in the last 4 spins, we have no bet.
This is a very easy system to play and it's very effective.
With a little practice you can keep track of the last 4 spins without pen and paper, and other than that all you have to do is keep track of where you are in the forced win progression, which you can do by stacking the appropriate number of chips in front of you. You also need to keep track of where you are in relation to your previous high bank so you can determine the appropriate bet to keep from winning more than +1.
So far I've never had to bet more than 12-12 and even then I wasn't that much in the hole. And betting 12-12 is a pretty low bet for double dozens.
I know that the tracking that represents about 50% of the spins makes it appear like you're winning at a stronger pace than you really are because the bets are spread out, but still I think this is worth a short test run by some of you double dozen fanatics.
Enjoy,
GLC
Whatever GLC says is the TRUTH!!!
Has anyone botted this Dozens back 4 method?
Superman, have U archived this one??
Just wondered. :-X
Hi George,
As a big fan of GLAT this looks to be a good DD selection. And could be strong...
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To play the GLAT progression, I suggest that you only bet 1 time for each trigger. We can't track for another trigger until the missing dozen hits. Then we start tracking from it to get our 2 out of 4 dozens.
Yes - this seems good way to play it too.
Good Luck,
A.
Quote from: Tomla021 on May 15, 02:16 AM 2013
Whatever GLC says is the TRUTH!!!
Tommy, Good to see you're still keeping watch on things.
Thumbs up mate. :lol:
Georgie
Quote from: GLC on May 15, 01:10 AM 2013
" ... If we have 3 dozens in the last 4 spins, we have no bet..."
This should read "If we have 3 different dozens in the last 4 spins" In other words, if all three dozens hit at least once in the last for spins, we have no bet. Keep tracking.
For those of you who like more action, you could make a single dozen bet on the only dozen that hit twice in the last 4 spins. Example: 1223 here we would normally have no but you could make a single dozen bet on the 2 dozen. 3123 Here we would bet the 3 dozen. You'd have to keep a separate progression for the single dozen bets. This option increases the drawdowns a little, but it can also decrease them. And when it's hitting, it can add substantially to the winnings.
Enjoy,
GLC
What's my preoccupation with double dozens lately? Must be a phase I'm going through or maybe it's because I'm getting so many PM's about double dozens. It causes me to think about them a lot.
Adaptation number two thousand three hundred and fifteen. :xd:
Our 1st bet is the farthest spun dozen and the penultimate dozen.
Example:
1 This is the farthest back dozen.
2
2 This is the penultimate dozen. So we bet on the 1 & 2 dozens.
3
Our 2nd bet is the penultimate dozen and the last spun dozen.
Example continued:
1
2
2
3 This is the penultimate dozen.
1 This is the last spun dozen. So we bet the 1 & 3 dozens 1 time.
Our 3rd bet is the last spun dozen and the farthest back dozen.
Example continued:
1
2
2
3 This is the farthest back dozen.
1
2 This is the last spun dozen. So we bet the 2 & 3 dozens 1 time.
We continue to rotate our bet selection. Farthest and penultimate then penultimate and last then last and farthest then farthest and penultimate then penultimate and lastt then last and farthest etc...
If we have the following:
1
2
2
3
3
The 3 dozen is the last.
The 2 dozen is the penultimate.
And the 1 dozen is the farthest.
We're going to use a GLAT type bet progression.
W This ends an attack. Result +1 unit. We bet the same amount on the next attack.
LWW This ends an attack. Result even. We bet the same amount on the next attack.
LWL This ends an attack. Result -3 units. We bet the next attack at +1 unit.
LL This ends an attack. Result -4 units. We bet the next attack at +1 unit.
The above is very simple and effective.
I suggest playing to +10 units with a 50 unit buy-in.
GLC
Oops. Ignore this post.
what post?
Quote from: sheki on May 18, 04:22 AM 2013
what post?
The one that says Oops! Ignore this post.
I meant to correct something in the adaptation post and accidentally re-quoted it and since we can no longer delete replys in our topics, I modified it by deleting everything. But it wouldn't let me post a reply with nothing in the body so I made the body say. Oops! Ignore this post.
You could actually ignore this post too.
What happened to the "delete post" option?
GLC
I'd like to post some personal observations regarding systems.
Systems are based on a general idea that can be modified a variety of ways. One modification is no better than any other. No matter how you tweak a system, there will be favorable streaks and unfavorable streaks. No matter how you tweak a bet progression, there will be favorable streaks and unfavorable streaks.
Here's some options you might like to consider for this system.
Instead of betting each combination 1 time and then moving to the next, you could decide to bet each combo 2 times or 3 times before moving. Or, you could decide to play each combo until you have a loss and then move to the next. You can catch some pretty good winning streaks doing that. You could wait until you have 2 losses before moving to the next combo.
You could play each attack with the same combo and stay with that combo until you lose an attack. Or, you stay with it until you lose 2 attacks in a row.
You could change the W/L groups for an attack.
W; LWW; LWL; LL is pretty basic.
You could go to WW; LWLWWW; LWLL; LLL; LWLWWL; etc... This makes for longer attacks at the same bet size and might suit your liking more.
All I'm trying to say is that we can adapt a playing method to suit our liking and playing style. There's nothing cast in stone with any system. Every system has more numbers that will cause it to lose verses causing it to win when the payout ratio is factored in. This is why people are always tweaking systems. They hit the losing streak and they're trying to avoid it. It can't be done.
So, don't get too hung up on some of the minor details in a system. In the long run they don't make that much difference.
GLC
Mr GLC
I always take a look see at your and other systems---I pay some extra look sees at yours......because they are for the most part good (you might have a semi grail or two in your posts), then I bring it down to playability in an hour or so real time..But I will never turn my head from one of your ideas---your issue is your so prolific-lol ,,, so it becomes he's more a progression guy or etc etc.......But if your beating that air ball machine in Zona weekly or monthly ----Bless you!!!!!!!!!
Dear Mr. Cruise,
I think your playing style is exactly what my last post was all about. If you like the way a system on the forum plays, then tweak it to fit your bankroll and playing style and start testing it. When you think you've got something worth risking some money on, go to the casino and test it with as small a unit size as you can.
It does take some trial and error to figure everything out. And, it's almost impossible to teach it to someone else. That's why you should continue to study roulette so you can understand every aspect of the game. Every system or method or progression etc... that you test and fail at, adds more light to the puzzle.
I don't think you can take any system on this forum and play just like the author posted and win consistently. Maybe the author can, but others can't. Every one of them have to be tweaked to fit you. Until you know enough about Roulette systems to make your own tweaks without having to ask if the tweak is okay, you don't know enough yet. Keep learning.
One day the light will go on. Aha!!
GLC
Quote from: GLC on May 22, 12:54 PM 2013
Dear Mr. Cruise,
I think your playing style is exactly what my last post was all about. If you like the way a system on the forum plays, then tweak it to fit your bankroll and playing style and start testing it. When you think you've got something worth risking some money on, go to the casino and test it with as small a unit size as you can.
It does take some trial and error to figure everything out. And, it's almost impossible to teach it to someone else. That's why you should continue to study roulette so you can understand every aspect of the game. Every system or method or progression etc... that you test and fail at, adds more light to the puzzle.
I don't think you can take any system on this forum and play just like the author posted and win consistently. Maybe the author can, but others can't. Every one of them have to be tweaked to fit you. Until you know enough about Roulette systems to make your own tweaks without having to ask if the tweak is okay, you don't know enough yet. Keep learning.
One day the light will go on. Aha!!
GLC
Tom,
I just re-read the above post and realized that it read as if I were talking to you personally. The "you's" in my post were plural. Not singular. Maybe we should go back to the King James English. You know, thee, thou etc... Then it would be clearer.
No, no, no. I was teaching others how you approach the game. Everything I said you already do, and that's what everyone needs to learn to do.
I wish you would start a topic and explain how you play roulette and baccarat. Your ability to not expose too much of your bankroll at any time is worth emulating. I know it's based on experience and not a static method that could be botted. But the basic principles might be teachable.
Even though you've shared many of them with me, I'm such a nut job that I can't discipline myself to play your way.
You're the master at playing to not lose and letting the wins take care of themselves.
I humbly apologize if I offended you in any way. Sometimes my fingers type faster than I can think!
Keep killin' 'em "Top Gun"
George
Thee and Yore are still part of my package--sorry! But i remember one thing I wanted to find this post again!-Im doing dozens and colums to my my amazement---but as I say all of the time---You sir are so working at it that love is a weak word for you!!!!!!---I have new crazy idea on single dozens!
ps--came back from vegas -all was great!
Raising this from the dead.
Been lurking for quite some time, tried a lot of methods out posted here etc.
Has anyone have more experience on this one?
With my double column selection, this progression has brought me over 160 units so far, in 2 days.
3 bigger holes that i managed to climb out of, although once you hit them they demand a decent bankroll. Those same holes would have wiped me completely with Marty, and a few times before that also. But you have to have a huge bank in order to make winnings right? Started with 20 units only so i guess i was lucky to not run into a hole right off the bat.
This can be a grind sometimes, sometimes its a quick session with 10-20 units profit.
Still havnt set my stop/loss point, seems like a deep hole requires 80-150 units. Any advice there?