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Title: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 16, 01:03 AM 2013
A bettor comes to you and asks what system could he/she play that could make $3-$5 per session with a $50 bankroll.  The system cannot use a progression.  The inside bet minimum is $1 and the outside bet minimum is $10.  The bettor sets a stoploss of -50% of the bankroll.

Is there a system this person can play?
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: ignatus on Sep 16, 04:08 AM 2013
Something i invented this morning. Takes forever to play, (only tested it on RNG) im sure it works better Live.....

1) Bet Last 4 Doublestreet hit.
2) At first loss retrack
3) Repeat (1)

Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: ignatus on Sep 16, 06:32 AM 2013
@Dublinbet
Start 2274

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+3... LOL (not the best system!)
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: Skakus on Sep 16, 06:33 AM 2013
Quote from: ignatus on Sep 16, 04:08 AM 2013
Something i invented this morning...


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Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: ignatus on Sep 16, 07:10 AM 2013
come up with something better yourself then Skakus. I tried... better than nothing
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: Azim on Sep 16, 10:44 AM 2013
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 16, 01:03 AM 2013
A bettor comes to you and asks what system could he/she play that could make $3-$5 per session with a $50 bankroll.  The system cannot use a progression.  The inside bet minimum is $1 and the outside bet minimum is $10.  The bettor sets a stoploss of -50% of the bankroll.

Is there a system this person can play?

Short of getting lucky, there will be a loss in the long run. Whatever he/she decides to play.

The table limits are too high for the bankroll.
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 16, 02:25 PM 2013
Azim is wise to not play if there is insuffiucient bankroll.

But what if there were a way to make a few dollars with a $50 bankroll?

I'm thinking perhaps a single street for 12
attempts @ $1/spin or a Line for six attempts @ $1/spin.

Maybe three streets played @ $1/street for four attempts?
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: RouletteMaster on Sep 16, 08:15 PM 2013
easy/play lines.
start 5 lines/remove-add lines as it happens/reset when you have to place bets on all 6 lines or no lines.
you can easily play most sessions within a 50 bankroll.
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: GARNabby on Sep 16, 11:14 PM 2013
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 16, 01:03 AM 2013The system cannot use a progression.

People need to get off this intuitive progression aversion.

First, flat betting is merely a progression of none, at least at first.

Second, after your session BR has multiplied ten-fold.  What are you going to do, keep betting the same amount?  So why not gradually increase that amount, sort of like Kelly did, regardless your system, under favorable odds?  The banks call it compound interest on the capital already thus invested; and the more often compounded, the better the return.

Third, every thing to do with one's worth outside of gambling, and inside, occurs under constant fluctuations.  Nothing about that is flat.
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 17, 12:32 AM 2013
Second, after your session BR has multiplied ten-fold.

As a rule when the bankroll has quadrupled, you then can increase 
your betting stake by one unit--but then you are at $200 and can take slightly more risk.

Should it be possible to make 5%-10% consistently
(for the most part-with the occasional loss) on a $50 bankroll.

Third, every thing to do with one's worth outside of gambling, and inside, occurs under constant fluctuations.  Nothing about that is flat.

If it is difficult to make 5% on a small bankroll, why should I try with a larger one?
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: RouletteMaster on Sep 17, 04:31 AM 2013
Proofreaders2010.  I gave you the solution.
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: ignatus on Sep 17, 05:00 AM 2013
....Something else i invented this morning.....(fu Skakus)

The 4-5 DoubleStreet inferno

Bet 4 last DS hit. At first loss bet that 5:th DS. Next when you get another hit, that DS is removed so only 4 DS remains.

Repeat procedure.


Works on RNG. Not tested Live
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: Skakus on Sep 17, 05:52 AM 2013
Quote from: ignatus on Sep 17, 05:00 AM 2013
....Something else i invented this morning.....(fu Skakus)

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;D
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: ignatus on Sep 17, 05:55 AM 2013
lol  ;D
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: Turner on Sep 17, 05:56 AM 2013
Wow...is ignatus that old?
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: RouletteMaster on Sep 17, 05:59 AM 2013
 :)
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: 6th-sense on Sep 17, 08:49 AM 2013
maybe my unhit sytem reverse sheet? slow but good and flat ...meant for bot
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 17, 09:43 AM 2013
Quote from: 6th-sense on Sep 17, 08:49 AM 2013
maybe my unhit sytem reverse sheet? slow but good and flat ...meant for bot

Could you post the rules of the system Sixth Sense?
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: 6th-sense on Sep 17, 10:33 AM 2013
hi proof...remember the unhit system spin4fun which he thought was a winner...the unhit streets sytem?..i got that from a member for the bot but i paid nick to make this sheet in a flat bet AND a progression sheet if you want that..but your only talking flat here ....

its the oppisite of what you would bet in that system...so basically it will bet all hit streets in either the 8 or 12 cycle spin whichever you choose and add each new street to it which isn,t hit...it takes one off too but why i have no idea why nick sorted that side out as he did the original sheet for the other member...my progression 1 adds a unit to all streets with a new street added..this sheet as all my sheets work in stefs bot if you have it try it...
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: buffalowizard on Sep 17, 11:49 AM 2013
Looks like Skakus is showing Ignatus how to take a dump
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: GARNabby on Sep 17, 02:51 PM 2013
Quote from: buffalowizard on Sep 17, 11:49 AM 2013
Looks like Skakus is showing Ignatus how to take a dump.

Kung Pu.

Anyway, I could tell you how to accomplish the given challenge in two sentences, but only for baccarat.  (It's that easy!)

However, I can tell you from first hand experience across the internet, and in one sentence, that roulette is the most expensive waste of time and money since they started doing the lobotomies on the dummies.
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: biagle on Sep 17, 06:16 PM 2013
Quote from: GARNabby on Sep 17, 02:51 PM 2013
Kung Pu.

Anyway, I could tell you how to accomplish the given challenge in two sentences, but only for baccarat.  (It's that easy!)

However, I can tell you from first hand experience across the internet, and in one sentence, that roulette is the most expensive waste of time and money since they started doing the lobotomies on the dummies.

hi, tell us
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: RouletteMaster on Sep 17, 07:51 PM 2013
Quote from: GARNabby on Sep 17, 02:51 PM 2013
However, I can tell you from first hand experience across the internet, and in one sentence, that roulette is the most expensive waste of time and money since they started doing the lobotomies on the dummies.
not true. you can win every session without much drawdown. u just need to know how to play. want proof?

and all this can be done flat betting. u need to know how to increase/decrease the risk and coverage - combine this with a fluid money management which increases/decreases the bet size based on predictability of an event and you have a killer.
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: ignatus on Sep 18, 03:59 AM 2013
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Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: ugly bob on Sep 18, 04:42 AM 2013
Quote from: RouletteMaster on Sep 17, 07:51 PM 2013
not true. you can win every session without much drawdown. u just need to know how to play. want proof?

and all this can be done flat betting. u need to know how to increase/decrease the risk and coverage - combine this with a fluid money management which increases/decreases the bet size based on predictability of an event and you have a killer.

You make the game sound simple RouletteMaster  :)

But I like your confidence. Are you going to show us the proof?
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: RouletteMaster on Sep 18, 08:00 PM 2013
Quote from: ugly bob on Sep 18, 04:42 AM 2013
You make the game sound simple RouletteMaster  :)

But I like your confidence. Are you going to show us the proof?
Attached is the proof. it is my 10 day session history. Yes its simple but not easy. My base unit size in BV is 0.5$
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: biagle on Sep 19, 03:32 AM 2013
nice
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: ugly bob on Sep 19, 04:05 AM 2013
Great results there RouletteMaster  :thumbsup:

Long may it continue. I love those all green pages.
Title: Re: The $50 Bankroll Roulette Challenge
Post by: jiran0213 on Sep 19, 05:48 AM 2013
Quote from: RouletteMaster on Sep 18, 08:00 PM 2013
Attached is the proof. it is my 10 day session history. Yes its simple but not easy. My base unit size in BV is 0.5$
Could you share you strategy with us, Thank you very much.