I am here because I am trying to find a way to make a living off roulette
I dream numbers. I find myself struggling to go to sleep if I don't have numbers running through my head. Several years ago, my brain started thinking about roulette numbers for some reason. I found a terrible Gambler's Fallacy system on the internet, lost about $600 bucks that I didn't have to lose, and started doing my due diligence research. I love the challenge and think roulette will be like chess is for some people - a lifetime endeavor to learn the intricacies. If I find a way of playing for a living, all the better. Regrettably, my non-liberty-minded government interferes with much of my desire to play, so I don't know that is much of an option until I retire, sell my business, and can move to where gambling is readily available in person.
Being on boards years ago compared to today, is a bit different (for me). When you get SET IN YOUR STYLE of playing, there are FEW threads that will help you at that point. This is only my opinion folks, dont kill me.
IN MY VIEW, there are really only two types of methods out there but YES, with many various branches.
A) Betting on FUTURE numbers for whatever reason your method tells you.
B) Betting on numbers based off the PAST for whatever reason your method tells you (I refuse to call this gamblers fallacy). Hot numbers are one such example.
Sorry, I do not see a third choice, its one or the other. Anyways, I suppose we are here to read and ask questions and hopefully get polite answers. *MOST* of what we read here are OPINIONS (suggestions), little of it is fact.
Ken
Quote from: richbailey86 on Oct 26, 02:06 PM 2014
I am here because I am trying to find a way to make a living off roulette
Great question.
I thought the same when I started only to learn about how casinos treat winning
players and how often they won't pay if you win too much (online at least.)
(Not to mention the US gov't will want to know where
all of those thousands came from if they go through a bank.)
Now, creating systems is more a pastime for me than anything else.
I play electronic roulette at my local casino in queens, ny.
Real wheel and ball, bets placed on a screen
100% mr J
A game of new number which in turn becomes the past number, there, thats all there is to it
Quote from: richbailey86 on Oct 26, 02:06 PM 2014
I am here because I am trying to find a way to make a living off roulette
To be honest richbailey86 ... i have been visiting gamblings forums from 2006/2007 to 2014.
I have never seen or meet any one making a living based upon roulette systems.
Sure there has been claims that some have, but that is empty words as none of them never post a winning method.
All lies.
You are in the wrong forum and i know two guys who make a living playing roulette, but they are into advantage play.
One of them win regulary and can pay hes bills and build bankroll, the other one have won millions.
I know two guys that could make a living playing roulette, but company and family prevent them doing so and they are also into advantage play.
Then i hear about others who do good and make serios money out of roulette.
Sometimes winning 2 to 3K or one year of income during one to two days attack.
They are also into advantage play, but are using roulette computers, so you might regard that as cheating.
Ego, advantage play? As in wheel tracking with a computer?
Quote from: richbailey86 on Oct 26, 03:33 PM 2014
Ego, advantage play? As in wheel tracking with a computer?
Roulette computers is about physics.
A roulette computer can tell you when the ball is exact 10 sec left to hit a deflector.
The computer estimate where the ball will end up before the ball has landed in one pocket, so you can place your bets before that happens.
You can get a 5 to 10% edge over the house using a roulette computer.
Visual ballistic do the same thing with out any kind of device and are based upon skills.
Both are advantage play.
Thanks for the info. What plays are considered advantage play
Advantage play:
1. Visual ballistic - predict where the ball will end up before it does.
2. Bias - wheels with defects make the ball hit and favoring certain numbers.
3. Wheel signatures - light visual ballistic using same or similiar parameters.
4. Roulette computers - same as visual ballistic but you get the help of a device to predict.
5. All this is about physics.
I was always intrigued by mini roulette computers. But how to not get caught
You can use your foot, i have a roulette computer that i don't use, it has been given to me as gift.
The size is so small so you can attach the computer against your leg and have a wire to your toe clicking to give the computer information about what happening in the wheel action.
Then computer vibrates when you should look for your prediction number and you place bets around that number and win.
"Bias - wheels with defects make the ball hit and favoring certain numbers" >>> Perhaps in 1923 but not today.
Ken
I dont know why Im here....Its madness
Lol turner
I am confident there is a money management technique that is unbeatable
Any smart roulette player aims for progress, not perfection.
Ken
Money management alone is not enough, unless you are actually predicting when wins will occur.
See link:://:.roulettephysics.com/how-to-win-at-roulette/ (link:://:.roulettephysics.com/how-to-win-at-roulette/) which explains in plain language how roulette can and cannot be beaten, and why.
In a nutshell, the only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions. And the only thing that determines where the ball will fall is physics.
But most systems are a complicated set of rules that are roundabout methods of bet selection, that do not at all increase accuracy of predictions. And short term winnings with progression give the illusion of profit, but eventually fall flat.
On another note, I still look for other ways to beat roulette, mostly out of interest. As far as earning a living from roulette, if its not broken, why fix it? Roulette computers already do a good job.
I believe precognition is a method that shows promise, but probably by the time you reach the consciousness required for sufficient accuracy, you are unlikely to care about roulette and money anyway. So an option is the majority vote method, which we had trials for previously that were positive. This is where many people predict numbers, and we bet on the most popular predictions. But to do large enough trials is not easy, so I was going to have software created to make it more practical although havent had time yet.
Instead of chasing money so much though, maybe people should focus on reducing their dependence on it. That's why I work on :.yourway.org.au (link:://:.yourway.org.au) and I get emails from people desperate for money all the time, but everyone seems to forget they are in debt by choice. Anyway that's getting sidetracked a little. Dont get me wrong, money is useful and used for trade, but it is not as essential as people think.
Id love to make a living on roulette
Its not without its own problems. If you cant easily play on suitable wheels, and enough of them so you arent always playing at the same place, then you can expect only to subsidize existing income, not necessarily making a living from it. That is unless you play with large bankroll and have a series of bigger wins. Thats the kind of approach by the Ritz team who won around $2m USD in 3 days.
If you have the right wheels, and time to do what's needed, and dont get bored so easily, you can do very well. Most people dont have the patience or right mindset for professional play. For me it started for the reasons:
1. Potentially easy money
2. I wasnt going to be part of the rat race, working all my life for peanuts (who would want that?).
3. I like the game and challenge
If anyone is interested in advantage play, I suggest start learning visual ballistics for free at link:://:.roulettephysics.com/ (link:://:.roulettephysics.com/) and if you dont like visual ballistics, then chances are no advantage play method is right for you, including roulette computers.
The best thing about it is your income is not affected by things like recession. It is still work though. And if you have too few wheels to play on, you cant rely on it for full time income because casino conditions sometimes change. You can get good or bad wheels one wheel, then the next week it can change. So for the average player, consider it an income boost, not a sole income.
Dont get me wrong, money is useful and used for trade, but it is not as essential as people think.--Steve H.
That's sacrilege here in the United States (to even say that).
Money is just an instrument of trade. Become more self sufficient, and you wont need to trade as much.
Animals dont need money. They rely on themselves. We need somewhere in between where we are now, and back to very basics.
Money today has become a tool to control us. For example, the Federal Reserve and how it creates money from thin air. People ask for loans, the banks create the money from nothing and create a debt. People repay the debt. Where do they get the money from to pay the bank? That's their problem, plus they pay interest that is money that doesn't even exist until someone else asks for a loan and pays the bank.
Yes, all true.
That said even bank tellers will mock you when your account balance decreases to an "unacceptable" level. One banker even called the police over because she thought I was "too poor" to service.
Without money people will declare you a menace and treat you like a criminal,
whereas you could be the greatest scoundrel with money and treated like a rockstar.
Personally I don't people are mature enough to live without money (like bartering, etc.)
People will always need an outlet for their prejudices.
Also how much time do you spend making money? How much time do you spend reducing dependence on it?
Proof, as for bartering, you get taxed on that too if its above a threshold in value. Everywhere you look, we are being pulled into a system of money and control. We are born into it so we dont see the prison. We just accept it as reality. You are right, most people arent mature enough to live without money.
You can spend your life trying to make money, to relax on a beach somewhere, only to realize you could have done it for free. We are all deluded to some degree, probably all of the time. We just don't know it yet. No matter how well you think you know something, we are all at some level pretty dumb.
I bet the majority of people here are not here to win roulette or make money. You are probably here because you want freedom. And you are looking at roulette as the stepping stone.
But you mistakenly think money is the answer.
You can have loads of money and if you dont have the right mindset for freedom, you will probably end up bored and on drugs chasing highs. Thats what happens to many wealthy people. Many people with the wrong mindset will always be saying "if I can just have or do this or that, then I'll be happy".. but when you finally get that, you'll find another thing that is "missing" instead of understanding you already have everything you need. I'm at a point now where the less I have, the happier I am. I dont mean I will dump all assets. I mean I dont like having loads of toys and am happy to just sit on a beach and do nothing. I get more from basic free things than most things that cost money.
Its like how I never buy expensive cars. Its not a matter of money. I dont want to worry about having it scratched or dinted. As long as it has air conditioning and is reasonably nice to drive, I dont care what it looks like. I'd rather not care if it got damaged.
"I bet the majority of people here are not here to win roulette or make money" >>> Lets be honest, money won is great. My MAIN reason is ego, I won't lie about it.
I love it when I leave a winner and the LOOK on the dealer/floor/pit, faces is great...... he's not suppose to leave a winner, what the hell is going on? (lol)
They somehow feel offended, nothing quite like it. Succeeding at something that is NOT easy, is why I play/study roulette.
Ken
Also how much time do you spend making money? How much time do you spend reducing dependence on it?--Steve H.
I spend a lot (too much time) trying to make money. A passive income would be nice.
Animals dont need money. They rely on themselves. We need somewhere in between where we are now, and back to very basics.--Steve H.
Have you met the Koch brothers? People like those two will always keep society money-dependent.
You are probably here because you want freedom. And you are looking at roulette as the stepping stone.--Steve H.
Correct.
Stop quoting me.
I like boobs.
Actually dont think I've heard of Koch brothers until now. I'd need to read more to know who they are, but I'm sure to become a billionaire you will have needed to trample on a lot of people.
"Be careful who you treat like s**t on the way up because you'll be seeing them again on the way back down".
Ken
USA sound nicer and nicer...the more you guys describe it :o
Quote from: Turner on Oct 27, 03:32 AM 2014
USA sound nicer and nicer...the more you guys describe it :o
The United States is a great place (especially if you're rich
[+$5M worth]). It's also okay if you have a modest income [$50K/year].)
True story. I went in to check on my stock market investments *I only had $200 total*
The woman who serviced my account (assuming I was rich) became very, very friendly.
She talked about introducing me to her husband and children and was trying to talk me into going on a vacation with them to Alaska. I had become an 'unofficial' part of her family...
until she saw I only had $200 in the account--oh my! Next thing I knew she grew frightened. (It felt like the silent alarm had gone off). She kicked me out of the office running as fast as she could!
(I guess the trip is off now :) )
I think anywhere in the world is a great place if u have lotsa $....... ;)