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Today i thought betting 2 dozens would be good after a dozen has a streak of 3
Boy good thing it was fun money
Dozen 1 streaked 8 on a row
If 2 dozens can sleep 8 times then you are RIGHT
Dozen1 slept for 20 spins...lost 30 units. Everytime I go to the casino usually either one of two things happen:
a) the live spins beat the system I tested with data from Spielbank Wiesbaden;
b) I do the opposite of what I profess here...
This evening both things happenned.
I learned it the hard way too :) There is a very high chance that 30+ unique numbers will show in 100 spins, so I started betting one random number with progression, until it hit. It worked very well for a while. Then I managed to chose the coldest number ever, and I was chasing it for up to 260 spins, and wiped out my balance. :yawn:
Sorry to hear that. May I ask what kept you going? Wait.. I think I know the answer...
I think I'm gonna stop wasting money for a while.
one tip...use STAR/CARSH on the dozens for sure after a streak or in the streak....easy to win. follow the money i always say. why chase the losing place?
Psimoes, playing sleepers is a big NO-No in roulette. you would have better asked here before you lost your money. It's basics of not to do. You had a few months here to easily find out.
Thing was. every single/double/both dozens systems with fixed rules, behave the same. Watch their registries and there's always clusters of wins and losses. I was winning on same as last double dozens until I noticed doz1 hadn't appeared for 10 spins. Who would've guessed they wouldn't appear for another ten. I managed to recover some units by the time the dozen awoke, but then it took a nap and finally there was the streak that would allow me to at least brake even, but by that time I busted. What bothers is that you have to bet on the furthest dozen at some point. It may take a while to appear and it's frustrating when you leave the table or change strategy just to see it showing up the on next spin after.
In conclusion I lost faith when winning and when losing.
im not a fan of chasing sleepers but 10times? STAR that dozen and enjoy.... i know i know it can lose too cuz nothing is bulletproof. but with a daylimit who cares huh :)
Thanks denzie, appreciate the advice and the positive reply. I advocate flat-betting as much as possible, but out of curiosity, is there a link to a concise explanation of the Star system?
i just finished a session and end with 1000euro up. didnt get out the first progression :love:
10/10/10/20 50/100/150/250/400
20/20/20/40 100/200/300/500/800
and here i would stop but theres one more to get all back.
i play on 1 dozen that just won, follow the winner, and you bet with the system, its made for even 50/50 games but there u need to win 2 spins in a row. but with the dozens or colums or both only one hit will profit
Quote from: denzie on Dec 12, 05:31 PM 2014
i just finished a session and end with 1000euro up. didnt get out the first progression :love:
10/10/10/20 50/100/150/250/400
20/20/20/40 100/200/300/500/800
and here i would stop but theres one more to get all back.
i play on 1 dozen that just won, follow the winner, and you bet with the system, its made for even 50/50 games but there u need to win 2 spins in a row. but with the dozens or colums or both only one hit will profit
denzie,
in my testing a column is more likely to repeat then a dozen. maybe superstition but i see columns repeating more
you just bet same as last right? the thing with star is you have to have 2 wins in a row to profit
nope, not on the dozens/colums .... one hit and profit 8)
Quote from: denzie on Dec 12, 05:44 PM 2014
nope, not on the dozens/colums .... one hit and profit 8)
smart son, smart.
on dozen or column follow the last you can do
1 1 2 3 4 6 9 13 20
maybe many think im wrong but it makes money for me. every day more and more.
and the half wheel/star/carsh is a sure thing
and now i gonna start a session with the leveller on 2 dozens. to be honest , it not failed me yet
Quote from: denzie on Dec 12, 05:52 PM 2014
maybe many think im wrong but it makes money for me. every day more and more.
and the half wheel/star/carsh is a sure thing
and now i gonna start a session with the leveller on 2 dozens. to be honest , it not failed me yet
a few days ago i had mentioned following the last column/dozen
i see it just does not fail with standard dozen/column progression
betting the sleeper is suicide
however a dozen or column WILL repeat within 9 spins, therefore it is a fantastic system
explain leveler on 2 dozens please, how is it played
follow the last column with progression
1 1 2 3 4 6 9 14 21
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Dec 12, 05:56 PM 2014
however a dozen or column WILL repeat within 9 spins, therefore it is a fantastic system
Careful there. That is simply not true. Don't bet real money on that.
In short term its safe. Go for a few units then stop for a bit
i bet my money on that every day , lol . but i juse the original star system on the dozens. we need one hit and not two.
and if they not come then wait
leveller.... bet 2 dozens 1/1 2/2 4/4 (8/8) win and go back to 1/1 if lose dubbel 2/2 to 4/4 and then flat bet it till you are b4 you start losing . zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz but it works
Which 2 dozens do u bet? Most recent?
generally speaking my experience with sleepers has been positive...because I don't play them until they awaken
I usually bet straight up on the inside but should I see a dozen or column sleep for 10+ I will get on it...after it hits...but I only play it for 3-6 spins and that's it win or lose.
I know statistically this shouldn't matter but usually once it awakens it usually misses on the first spin more than it should and hits on the second spin after awakening more often than it should. I know if you really test it that won't hold up... but that's just the way it seems.
I play for a single win with a progression...win or lose and I am out after the short planned attack... usually 3 spins...6 spin max as I said. But always stop on the win
Quote from: rouletteKEY on Dec 12, 09:23 PM 2014
generally speaking my experience with sleepers has been positive...because I don't play them until they awaken
Sorry, RouletteKey but in that case your not playing sleepers are you , your playing a waker are you not ?
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that was my point
Yep, last 2
Thanks
Leveler is
1 1
2 2
4 4
8 8
Right?
Im having trouble finding leveller info
Quote from: rouletteKEY on Dec 12, 09:23 PM 2014
I usually bet straight up on the inside but should I see a dozen or column sleep for 10+ I will get on it...after it hits...but I only play it for 3-6 spins and that's it win or lose.
Sound strategy. Thanks!
Yep bet on 2 dozens(last winner ,follow and 2e last winner)
1/1 2/2 4/4 with 1000units
1/1 2/2 4/4 8/8 with 2000units
If lose dubbel till u bet 4/4(or 8/8 up to your bankroll)
If still not win then flat bet the 4/4 till u are where u start losing/ dubbeling . But you will get back in profit
So you first double on wins and if lose, flatbet till win? I dont understand.
if u win on 1/1 2/2 4/4 then u start again on 1/1 (cuz u have profit)
but if u still not win after bet 4/4 then u keep flat betting the 4/4 till u back where u started ( lets say u at 1000units en u bet the 1/1/2/2/4/4 it means now your at 986 units)
but ik goes up and down but u will see u get all back. thats why u need this bankroll.
its sometimes bit boring but it works
Well, chasing hot numbers can also end with a disaster. I've just lost my last 10 day's profit and risked a lot more, betting on the repeaters. 14 numbers hit three times, and non of them repeated for 40 spins. Needless to say, I started using progression after about 15-20 spins.
Sorry to hear that. Was there any statistical data that supported your bets on 4-time hitters?
I started tracking the numbers until I had three numbers that came twice, I started betting on those, and added the new numbers that has already repeated once. After I had three numbers that came three times, I did the same. Most of the time there are hot numbers that will hit 3-4-5 or more times, while almost one third of the numbers didn't even came up once. This time it didn't work, but yesterday I kept hitting hot numbers, and won 400 units in a couple of hours. I know such a simple mechanical play can't work, but still, I see some potential in hot numbers.
Quote from: ati on Dec 14, 03:11 PM 2014
I started tracking the numbers until I had three numbers that came twice, I started betting on those, and added the new numbers that has already repeated once. After I had three numbers that came three times, I did the same. Most of the time there are hot numbers that will hit 3-4-5 or more times, while almost one third of the numbers didn't even came up once. This time it didn't work, but yesterday I kept hitting hot numbers, and won 400 units in a couple of hours. I know such a simple mechanical play can't work, but still, I see some potential in hot numbers.
Here is the best system i have seen so far for repeaters.
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=11753.msg102813#msg102813 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=11753.msg102813#msg102813)
how goes your GUT playing Azim ?
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Quote from: ddarko on Dec 14, 06:00 PM 2014
how goes your GUT playing Azim ?
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It's great. I am just stuck with a project that was supposed to be simple and has turned out to be a nightmare. Hopefully It should be done and over with within next few days to start looking around.
Whats a good system on here there days?
Quote from: Azim on Dec 14, 06:04 PM 2014
Whats a good system on here there days?
Nothing much from my point of view.
But I think that nothing is ever "due" & there should be a reason for why you are betting how you bet.
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