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Title: My progression for a dozen
Post by: eddy35 on Apr 18, 04:47 PM 2015
I have tested this for a few weeks now with Wiesbaden live spins and the results are very good so I would like to hear your opinions about it.

I tested like this:

- only play the first dozen, this is the way I played it but just chose your own bet selection !
- start to play with 2 units
- ad a unit after a loss till you are on a new high
- then return to the 2 unit bet
- If you win your bet but your are not on a new high, play the same bet size again. So only ad one unit after a loss.

I saw something like this on the forum already but I made a little twist to prevent big drawdowns.

- adjust your betsize if you are within one spin from a new high...................... example: you have to bet 21 units but you are only 6 units from a new high, then play 3 instead of 21 units. 3 units will bring you to a new high after a win. If you lose that bet you ad one and play 4 units.

I tested this for a few thousand spins already and it goes smoothly. It is also easy to controle the progression.



Title: Re: My progression for a dozen
Post by: denzie on Apr 18, 06:19 PM 2015
Works great....till it doesn't.  Tried it and get smacked hard a few times. Pls be careful.

Denzie
Title: Re: My progression for a dozen
Post by: eddy35 on Apr 18, 06:41 PM 2015
Quote from: denzie on Apr 18, 06:19 PM 2015
Works great....till it doesn't.  Tried it and get smacked hard a few times. Pls be careful.

Denzie

I know what you mean. But I tried to controle the progression by adjusting it when possible. Only in one session I played I went under -500 units........... I recovered but in real life I would have stopped.

I tested a few more life spin sessions, with a good stop loss it could be a nice way to play.
Title: Re: My progression for a dozen
Post by: GLC on Apr 18, 09:05 PM 2015
Eddy,  I have a few questions, please.  I will put them in red by your statements.

Quote from: eddy35 on Apr 18, 04:47 PM 2015
I have tested this for a few weeks now with Wiesbaden live spins and the results are very good so I would like to hear your opinions about it.

I tested like this:

- only play the first dozen, this is the way I played it but just chose your own bet selection !Since bet selection doesn't make a difference in the long run, why not?
- start to play with 2 units  I don't understand why you start with 2 instead of 1.  And if 2 works better, why not 3 or 4?
- ad a unit after a loss till you are on a new high
- then return to the 2 unit bet
- If you win your bet but your are not on a new high, play the same bet size again. So only add one unit after a loss.I think this is a good move.  When we're betting large bets, why not drop back when we win something like 2 times in a row or 2 out of 3 bets or maybe if a single win drops you back quite a bit, say 1/2 to 3/4 of what you were down, you might consider decreasing the size of your bet here also.  Anything to mitigate the effect of a really bad run starting when you're betting large bets.

I saw something like this on the forum already but I made a little twist to prevent big drawdowns.

- adjust your betsize if you are within one spin from a new high....within one spin or maybe 2 or even 3 spins.................. example: you have to bet 21 units but you are only 6 units from a new high, then play 3 instead of 21 units. 3 units will bring you to a new high after a win. If you lose that bet you ad one and play 4 units. Let's say our next bet is 25 and we're at -100.  A couple of wins brings us clear, but a few losses (few can be anywhere from 3 to 20 and at 25 + units per loss, we're in big trouble.  Why not calculate how much we would have to bet if we won the next 2 bets.  This gets our bet size down quite a bit.  It reduces our risk in exchange for a longer time to reach full recovery.

I tested this for a few thousand spins already and it goes smoothly. It is also easy to controle the progression.
Title: Re: My progression for a dozen
Post by: eddy35 on Apr 19, 05:45 AM 2015
Quote from: GLC on Apr 18, 09:05 PM 2015
Eddy,  I have a few questions, please.  I will put them in red by your statements.

I start with 2 instead of 1 just to increase the profit a little bit. For the progression it doesn't make a big difference.

There are different ways to controle the progression. Just make the changes that work for you. My impression is that you are always within 3 spins from recovery most of the time. You can see in the sessions I posted that there is always one big hole........... but it always recovers quickly and the needed bankroll is acceptable.

The last point you made seems an interesting thought............... I will play a little with to see how it performs.

I just tried the same progression on even money bets........... it also works fine.

Title: Re: My progression for a dozen
Post by: atlantis on Apr 19, 07:58 AM 2015
Hi eddy,

I remember I did a test and posted vids of using a progression on EACH dozen separately to see how it performed over the same numbers...

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=13830.msg119052#msg119052 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=13830.msg119052#msg119052)

(Used GLAT progression)

A.
Title: Re: My progression for a dozen
Post by: eddy35 on Apr 19, 11:12 AM 2015
Quote from: atlantis on Apr 19, 07:58 AM 2015
Hi eddy,

I remember I did a test and posted vids of using a progression on EACH dozen separately to see how it performed over the same numbers...

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=13830.msg119052#msg119052 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=13830.msg119052#msg119052)

(Used GLAT progression)

A.

I was also thinking about trying my progression with different dozens. But you cab also play it with 2 even money bets.
Title: Re: My progression for a dozen
Post by: eddy35 on Apr 19, 01:45 PM 2015
I played the same spins from Wiesbaden on black and red using the same progression......... both winn
One just a little, the other a bit more.
Title: Re: My progression for a dozen
Post by: eddy35 on May 01, 08:49 AM 2015
Tested 23 sessions of about 80/100 spins

Stop loss was -100.

Lost the bankroll of 100 in 4 sessions, won 19 sessions.  Total balance + 503

I think this is promising !
Title: Re: My progression for a dozen
Post by: icashbot on May 01, 11:50 AM 2015
I play european roulette with 37 numbers

I place a £1 on 5 numbers on each spin for 200 spins

Total money spent is £2000 £5 x 200

I lose 123 spins And win 77

(1 win equals 1x35 payout)

What is my loss and total win
Title: Re: My progression for a dozen
Post by: soggett on May 01, 12:39 PM 2015
Quote from: icashbot on May 01, 11:50 AM 2015
I play european roulette with 37 numbers

I place a £1 on 5 numbers on each spin for 200 spins

Total money spent is £2000 £5 x 200

I lose 123 spins And win 77

(1 win equals 1x35 payout)

What is my loss and total win


£1772 if u can win 77 out of 200 with betting 5 numbers (if u can keep that up your betselection is golden)

you lose £615
you win £2387

and you spend only £1000 because 5x200 is 1000 ;D
Title: Re: My progression for a dozen
Post by: Colbster on May 01, 05:48 PM 2015
Any thought on playing differential bets on each dozen, betting both the 2 dozens with the highest bet total?  After the first spin, you will already have the 2 chosen as the winner stays 2 and the others climb to 3.  Play until a high on each progression independent of the others?
Title: Re: My progression for a dozen
Post by: Tomla021 on May 02, 06:50 PM 2015
really like the idea of playing all 3 dozens
Title: Re: My progression for a dozen
Post by: icashbot on Jun 09, 10:36 PM 2015
Quote from: soggett on May 01, 12:39 PM 2015

£1772 if u can win 77 out of 200 with betting 5 numbers (if u can keep that up your betselection is golden)

you lose £615
you win £2387

and you spend only £1000 because 5x200 is 1000 ;D
thanks i realised my mistake  :twisted: