I have been playing Baccarat lately and I have been trying to combine a BAC system with Roulette system See what you think This has been working very good so far............ Testers welcome.
Bet on DOZ- bet on 2nd to last dont bet on the last # bet on the one before last, ( 7 - 21- 33 ) you bet on 2nd doz with a progression of
1-1-2-3-4-6-9-14-21-31
CIAO
hi do u continue 2 bet the 2nd doz in the above example or always bet the dbl dozen eg 2, 15,9 bet 2nd doz then nxt spin 33 arrives then bet the 1st doz cos 9 is the dbl
cheers jason
I play one DOZ at a time. You don't bet the last doz that came out you bet the second to last doz. with a doz progression of 1-1-2-3-4-6-9-14-21-31....or as high as you want to go... In BACCARAT it is called (TBL time before last.....) Just keep betting TBL until you are up enough units for the day.. TBL is very usefull it catches all runs and all chops.
The only thing that hurts TBL is two in a row. Well I hope If you don't like this system maybe it will spark an idea in someone ......
Nice one Bella :thumbsup:
I play that TBL ( penultimate doz or second last...) but i use
different progression (thanks to Hermes)
+1 at W/ at 3 LLLs -1 (or-2) Reset to 1 unit on new profit,
and of corse a stop lose around 50(70).
>:(
maybe i am doing something wrong.
i will attach some quick test.
ALBERT Nice work but the first win I see is spin 7 because it is the same as spin 5 and spin 9 is a win because its the same as spin 7 and then spin 13 is the same as spin 11 and spin 15 is a win same as 13 and 19 is win same as 17 and so on.. Its not the last spin its the spin before last but what ever you did it worked well you were up 16 units at one time you can't ask for more than that....I missed a few 11 and 13 - 12 and 14 - 13 and spin 15 wow that's pretty good you might be able to flat bet this more testing needed :thumbsup:
Very interesting system. Played a few sessions online at my favorite casino in the RNG and it is favoring decently well. Went up to 31 units a few times but never gone past that. Looks good so far. Will continue testing.
Thanks tell me are you flat betting or are you useing a progression
using a progression. I thought it was implied. Lol.
OH yes sorry I did see that you used a progression up to 31 . I hate progression but somtimes I feel thats the only way to beat the casinos... I will keep testing Im going to try flat betting it too and maybe - up 1- down 1 also ....
Dear Bella,
I don't mean to be negative, but this system has been tried a million different ways.
I think you landed on my favorite way to play it, DBL.
The problem with the system is that those doubles come often enough to clean you out every now and then.
What you are playing is a martingale for the 2:1 payoffs.
It works great for a lot of sessions just like all martingales do and then comes the piper who must be paid and he's not embarrassed to take everything you've won and then some.
I'm not saying that you can't stay ahead of the game playing this method. There's always lucky players. But most people who play this will eventually give up because it is terribly disappointing to be winning regularly and then all of a sudden have to give it back.
For sure you need a stop loss set by you and not the house limit. The lower the stop loss, the more realistic the system will perform short term.
It's along the same lines as Twisteruk's system about the closest thing to a holy grail. If you get up early, you might be able to stay ahead of the losses. But the losses will come eventually, so don't let them have it all back.
Having said all that, I wish you the best of luck.
George
Hello Bella,
Way to go man! Your "Something new" rocks! I have tested it 6 times so far and stopped when I reached $100 profit without busting the progression. Further more, I used it on RNG at Bodog Online Casino. It only takes about 15 to 20 minutes to reach that $100. I was using $5.00 chips as my unit amount. I plan on testing some more. Hopefully, others will post their test results.
Scooby Doo
Sorry guys, not sure its your holy grail :(
Source: DublinBet / Table 1
Date: 03/11/2010
Spins: 675
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That's great S DOO, I have been trying to tweek it a lil bit , I was trying a 8 step progression not as agressive and instead of straight TBL a mix of tbl - tbl - tbl - last - tbl - last - tbl - tbl
that's 8 steps and last is the last doz or # that just came out....and also I was trying on EC like red /black see what you think YO THAT CHART DONT LOOK THAT BAD at least you where up a good bit a few times.....
seems like it tends to hang grindin' ::)
TOPCAT888
Can you test (TIME BEFORE LAST) on RED/BLACK on that chart ?
THANK YOU
There you go Bella ~ Same spins using 5 chip unit / flat bet as requested. . .
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WELL THAT SUCKS thank you for your time
TOPCAT ... back to the drawing board lol
Not necessarily, depends how much risk you want to take on and when you get on and off the roundabout!
:-)
Thanks TOPCAT for that..
I hate to be a pain , but is there anyway to code DOZ/COL (TBL) UP 1 UNIT ON A LOSE AND DOWN 1 UNIT ON A WIN... JORDANS on to something like this also hes useing repeaters I tryed that before it didnt work that good...
So we bet 1 unit on DOZ and 1 unit on COL --- second to last number that hits ....
Hey if it works we all win we are all in the same boat..... Thanks agian
Bella, here you go ~ TBL Doz & Col ~ Up one on either (doz or col) loss and down one on either (doz or col) win ~ same set of actuals ~ 5 Unit chip / 100 unit reset
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Betting the TBL or just the Last doesn't make any deference.
The only think that can help is a good and safe progression.
Bella you are too new in Roulette...my opinion is just 1st ask to learn from the members that have explored roulette for several years 24/7 and then make any systems....
U will also find out with time that Roulette can t be beaten.
We are all in the same boat ...we know that...and this why we are all sad...because we can t make any steady income from it >:(
we are all want to make 1+1=3 and this is never gonna happen...
In the long term roulette will always be the winner...
Even if u play short sessions this also means LONG TERM...because every short session is adding to the next short session etc...so it is becoming LONG TERM.....
I know it is SAD....but its also true....the proof is that Roulette still exists in Casinos
There are 2 ways to beat roulette
1) MARTIGNALE (yes u heard right!!!!)
If u have unlimited BR u can always be a winner with it...
BUT what Casinos did before a lot of years when found that out???
THEY applyed the BETTING LIMIT
2) Advantage Play.
BUT what Casinos did when they found out about it????
They used wheels that are unbeatable!
So as u see ONLY when there is a genuine way to win in the long RUN the Casinos are changing everything!!!!
Its like a mouse and cat game....
Only that the CAT has the ADVANTAGE and UNLIMITED money and can do whatever it likes....
Quote from: Jordan link=topic=2099. msg20042#msg20042 date=1289043469
U will also find out with time that Roulette can t be beaten.
~ True words Jordan, true words ~ Only way is to hit & run and stay lucky. !
Yes topcat.
But as u saw in my post I desagree with the hit and run....
I just agree with the GET LUCKY! :D
First off thank you to TOMCAT for you help..
Jordan Im 46 I live 2 miles from Atlantic City Im not new to the game I have been playing for over 20 years... I dont matter if you are new or not on one has come up with a really good system....
Quote from: bella on Nov 06, 09:34 AM 2010
First off thank you to TOMCAT for you help..
Jordan I'm 46 I live 2 miles from Atlantic City I'm not new to the game I have been playing for over 20 years... I don't matter if you are new or not on one has come up with a really good system....
Good ideas don't come from experience or from people who take themselfes with superior knowledge above the others.
Mostly they come from humble brains who endeavour the unknown, not the known.
Bless you Bella
you've came with great help
:thumbsup:
I'm trying to tweek this system a lil,BUT WE ARE NOW BETTING ONE DOZ AT A TIME REPEATERS ONLY... from my data I have 750 live spins I use to test I know thats not a lot but it's a start and I found out that the GAP for a repeater is 9 out of 750 spins most of the time 5 so maybe with a progression like this It should work...
VERTUIAL SPIN = V
V - V - V - V - 1 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
STOP PROGRESSION UNTIL REPEATER COMES AND THEN CONTIUE PROGRESSION
V - V - V - 6 - 9 - 14 - 21 - 31 = $92.00 @ $1.00 UNITS
$460.00 @ $5.00 UNITS
$920.00 @ $10.00 UNITS
with a two step progression it sounds pretty good....
any dozen based system is a short term approach, a professional player always use that to "learn" what the wheel is doing, after some spins u need to shift gears and develop a new strategy like the eclipse system that use a double betting strategy