Binomial probability where you can play a spread of numbers in any combination and be equal an even money bet with 50% chance to hit.
You can pick numbers random, individual or use sectors.
EC has a 50% chance to win once within one attempt.
Dozen has a 50% chance to win once within two attempts.
A line has a 50% chance to win once within four attempts.
A corner has a 50% chance to win once within six attempts.
A street has a 50% chance to win once within eight attempts.
A split has a 50% chance to win once within twelve attempts.
A single nr has a 50% chance to win once within twenty-five attempts.
Now you can add math and probability calculations - STDV - into the prediction.
Here is one example with a 50% threshold/benchmark - 14 events versus 2 events are 3.0 STDV - and it does not matter wish one is a Loss/Win.
Let's say you have 14 loses and 2 wins playing corners - then you would have one sector with four numbers that have won 2 times within six attempts cycle and 14 times loss with six attempts cycle. That is how you would calculate a sleeper and wait for awaking hits before betting.
Same situation but with bias/hot. - 14 events versus 2 events are 3.0 STDV - and it does not matter wish one is a Loss/Win.
Let's say you have 14 wins and 2 loss playing corners - then you would have one sector with four numbers that have loss 2 times within six attempts cycle and 14 times win within six attempts cycle. That is how you would calculate a bias.
The reason you would use this would be the simplicity to calculate in real-time in the casino.
For example, lest say you use a signature and get a strong 2.5 STDV - that is a window with 12 events versus 2 events.
Let's say you play LINES and you get 12 cycles with 4 attempts hitting 12 times with 2 losing cycles with 4 attempts.
Is pretty easy to memorize, just pick windows with strong STDV combination and memorize them.
For example 12 versus 2 and 14 versus 2 that is 2.5 and 3.0 STDV.
No matter if you play with or against.
Then if you have 12 versus 2 with 2.5 STDV then half would be 6 versus 1 and 1.25 STDV
Same with 14 versus 2 with 3.0 STDV then half would be 7 versus 1 and 1.5 STDV
How does this help you?
Well, 3.0 STDV is rare but happens.
Then you can decide to jump on the hot/bias trend based upon math and probability calculations and not guesswork.
So when you see a four number sector or combination hit 7 times within 6 attempts with 1 losing cycle with 6 attempts in any combination.
Then you have a strong and hot and medium bias with 1.5 STDV and can play that it will grow stronger.
One expectation could be to win at least - minimum - two times within the six comming future outcomes.
If more hits you are on a truly bias trend that continues to grow stronger.
If two hits you are on a medium expectation that did not come true as bias.
If you get less then two hits you hit a cold and weak trend that not become bias.
This you can do with any combination of numbers and use math and probability calculation in the casino with simplicity.
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This is the match formula:
The French word for STDV is ECART
First, you have to get the Absolute Ecart when you calculate.
So let's assume you have a sequence with 14 series alternating with two singles present.
Then you take 14 - 2 = 12
Now we want to get the statistical ecart so we continue with...
14 + 2 = 16
Now we take the sqr of 16 = 4
And finally, we divide the absolute ecart whit the sqr
12 sqr 4 = 3,00
The Statistical Ecart 3,00
Cheers
Going to mention some reflections.
Many have read Brett Morton's book - Playing to win - with the chapter for even money he describes patterns of six that you can play with or against.
But there is no precise description of how he parlays his bets.
With the model above we can measure and make conclusion of the most common likelihood based upon math and probability with STDV.
6 versus 1 is around 2.11 STDV and has 1.5% probability to happen, this means that you have 98.5% probability that there will be a other pattern then the previous for the next 6 attempts and 1.5% probability that the past pattern will repeat once more.
With STDV you can say that the likelihood to reach 2.5 STDV or higher is very rare.
And 6 versus 2 is 2.5 STDV.
This indicate that you will get at least two different events than the previous six within the next six outcomes.
Most of the time two or more events in your favor.
This can be proven using STDV and regression towards the mean.
Also can be proven the other way around where the STDV grow stronger.
Other authors that also have a claim that can be proven using this model.
John Patrick in hes roulette book mentions that 9 blacks with one single or two reds are a strong trend.
The conclusion is that he speaks the truth.
For example, 9 blacks and 1 red is 2.58 STDV so the likelihood is very strong that you will get at least two or more blacks within the next 6 attempts where the STDV grow stronger, because a full regression towards the mean 100% with 9 reds and 1 black is less than 1.5% probability to happen.
This means that most of the time you will win following that kind of trend.
Just to clarify this is about the likelihood and not 100% absolute the truth.
Closer and this you can not come to predict the future.
CHeers
Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future.
The problem is how do you pick these 6 numbers... and when? I mean randomly or based on previous numbers?
Quote from: Serendipity on Sep 22, 01:44 AM 2019
The problem is how do you pick these 6 numbers... and when? I mean randomly or based on previous numbers?
I made a simple test, pick-six random numbers and bet four times (one cycle) and win twice within six cycles.
Pick a sector with the same results.
This means you can build any matrix or selection process, the expectation is the same for any way you pick your numbers.
Cheers
I feel that this pattern breaker could be something very close to win more than lose. Can you give me an example for ec bets, please.
Quote from: Serendipity on Sep 22, 10:33 AM 2019
I feel that this pattern breaker could be something very close to win more than lose. Can you give me an example for ec bets, please.
I already mention the math and probability using STDV and is up to each individual to use his own skills as a gambler to implement the information.
Cheers
Very interesting topic ego. Now I miss someone like Mr. Ore to chime in.
Very useful, this topic should continue!
Does any of this change the odds of future winning numbers?
If not, then how is it better than random betting?
It improves everything.
Very clear when to hold and to continue betting.
Many situations have an expectation with more than one single win.
You know when to raise and lower your bets accordingly.
The comparison with even money selections indicates a bias/hot or cold series of events or sequence with clear view and understanding.
Give you better odds than using regular odds, for example, why would someone chase a street for 12 attempts when you have less than 50% to hit after 8 attempts.
Cheers
Quote from: ego on Sep 25, 04:13 AM 2019Give you better odds than using regular odds, for example, why would someone chase a street for 12 attempts when you have less than 50% to hit after 8 attempts.
This is the misunderstanding. No matter what hit previously, the odds haven't changed for future spins. So you changed nothing.
Then tell us more, Steve. We should then go for random numbers, colors, etc and of course next to a progression? There is no such thing as Bet Selection I assume and as a consequence how can you win using flat bets when odds are against us all the time. Are we wasting our time here?
Quote from: Serendipity on Sep 25, 06:13 AM 2019
Are we wasting our time here?
Steve, caleb and the mathboyz will tell you YES.
This is not about roulette. It's a math problem. And the mathboyz are right about random spins. The manufacturers invest millions of dollars for technology to ensure the wheel spits out random spins.
How many times should I explain it? And im not the only one explaining it.
Quote from: luckyfella on Sep 25, 06:21 AM 2019This is not about roulette. It's a math problem. And the mathboyz are right. It's a fact.
Math is an expression of reality. Its not a math problem. Its a reality problem, or more specifically the understanding of reality thats the problem.
Quote from: Serendipity on Sep 25, 06:13 AM 2019Are we wasting our time here?
If you continue to try what has been tried and proven to fail since the beginning of gambling, yes.
So try something new. It doesnt need to be advantage play. Start by learning what has already been tried countless times, why it fails, then try something new. People aren't even recognizing when something is the same thing.
Sounds reasonable? Or should be retry the same old stuff?
Its really not complicated.
Quote from: luckyfella on Sep 25, 06:21 AM 2019Steve, caleb and the mathboyz will tell you YES.
We apologize. Double your bet after losses. If that doesn't work, maybe triple bets after losses. If that doesn't work, try decrease bets after losses. If that doesn't work, wait for 3 reds then bet black.
See the pattern?
Don't get grumpy at us. We didn't make this reality.
A flat earther and round earther fly in space. The round earther points out the window and says, "look, round". The flat earther just gets pissed off. Why?
And can someone please show me one principle on this thread that changes the odds? Give me one clear example we can test.
Please, show me and I'll shut up.
Otherwise dont crack the shits when someone says the approach doesnt work.
Quote from: luckyfella on Sep 25, 06:21 AM 2019The manufacturers invest millions of dollars for technology to ensure the wheel spits out random spins.
FFS, no. Spins aren't random. I have NEVER seen a wheel with totally unpredictable ball bounce. And almost every wheel has either dominant ball drop points OR predictable results even on a seemingly perfectly level wheel with no dominant diamond.
Roulette wheels are not random. Its actually far more difficult to have truly unpredictable spins than it is to have a reasonable edge.
AP is my choice. Because it's most direct and logical. If you dont like AP, fine, but FFS try something new. And understand why you must increase accuracy of predictions.
Why are so many of you just not getting it? It's not complicated.
If anyone has a wheel, aim a webcam at it and spin typical speeds. Watch what I do with those totally random spins.
Quote from: Steve on Sep 25, 06:42 AM 2019
FFS, no. Spins aren't random. I have NEVER seen a wheel with totally unpredictable ball bounce. And almost every wheel has either dominant ball drop points OR predictable results even on a seemingly perfectly level wheel with no dominant diamond.
Roulette wheels are not random. Its actually far more difficult to have truly unpredictable spins than it is to have a reasonable edge.
AP is my choice. Because it's most direct and logical. If you dont like AP, fine, but FFS try something new. And understand why you must increase accuracy of predictions.
Why are so many of you just not getting it? It's not complicated.
I do understand completely the nature of the roulette wheel and all that you write.
On a personal note, AP in whatever form is cheating.
And I am not convinced that it can be done in real b&m.
And I'm not interested to find out.
Who cares if it still can be done or not.
So I
ASSUME it's a waste of my time.
And it's a waste of my money to pay someone like you to sell me rc or AP.
Quote from: Steve on Sep 25, 06:42 AM 2019
If you dont like AP, fine, but FFS try something new.
I agree with this.
The entire system strategy forum is trash.
Forum veterans didn't make such a simple call. Tells about the quality.
Quote from: Steve on Sep 25, 06:42 AM 2019
And understand why you must increase accuracy of predictions.
I also agree with this.
The problem with close minded steve is the
ONLY way besides precog on the side, is his cheating rc.
Steve, no one ever tell make sense to you ?
Quote from: luckyfella on Sep 25, 06:49 AM 2019AP in whatever form is cheating.
Actually, even casinos acknowledge its legal.
The situation with computers is more complex. Its legal in half of casinos. I have written legal advice for just about every jurisdiction.
Quote from: luckyfella on Sep 25, 06:49 AM 2019And I am not convinced that it can be done in real b&m.
I can beat over 90% of real b&m casino wheels, in the casino, sitting at home in my pyjamas just watching live video.
Quote from: luckyfella on Sep 25, 06:49 AM 2019And I'm not interested to find out.
Who cares if it still can be done or not.
That's why you dont know.
Quote from: luckyfella on Sep 25, 06:49 AM 2019And it's a waste of my money to pay someone like you to sell me rc or AP.
Sure.
But don't make this about me or AP.
Quote from: luckyfella on Sep 25, 07:02 AM 2019The problem with close minded steve is the ONLY way besides precog on the side, is his cheating rc.
Show me how your best bet selection consistently wins, without increasing accuracy of predictions.
Show me how not changing the odds changes something.
Show me how progression is not merely changing the stake with the same expectation?
Quote from: Steve on Sep 25, 06:35 AM 2019
And can someone please show me one principle on this thread that changes the odds? Give me one clear example we can test.
This ask shows your stupidity.
Do you know what you are asking for ?
Ask member Joe to explain it to you.
No personal attack. Just making an obvious call with your post.
Show me how dumb I am.
Please.
Quote from: Steve on Sep 25, 07:06 AM 2019
I can beat over 90% of real b&m casino wheels, in the casino, sitting at home in my pyjamas just watching live video.
Can you read simple english ?
You may be able to do whatever you claim.
Or simply good at lying.
I don't give a fark.
I'm talking about a regular player, not cameras or anything else, 'no more bets' is called almost instantly.
So if it's 100% math, it can be beaten with math!
And we realize that after 10 blacks it's still 50/50 to hit another black, but to have 10 blacks in a row at a certain time could be beaten! The pattern breaker is the key.
Quote from: Steve on Sep 25, 07:09 AM 2019
Show me how dumb I am.
Please.
Wow ! Simple english.
I repeat, ask member Joe to explain it to you.
Write a pm to him.
Or make a post to ask him.
Dear lucky, Try to explain us all here. Let's not wait for Joe.
Lucky doesnt know. That's why he's passing it on.
Quote from: luckyfella on Sep 25, 07:11 AM 2019You may be able to do whatever you claim.
Or simply good at lying.
Or maybe i install magnets in 90%+ of wheels.
Quote from: Serendipity on Sep 25, 07:13 AM 2019
Dear lucky, Try to explain us all here. Let's not wait for Joe.
Nice guy with honest question deserves a answer.
Roulette wheel and ball and dealer whose
purpose is to spit out RANDOM spins.
I am not talking about bias wheels and all that AP crap.
Or steve's cheating rc.
Or precog.
I am not debating if the spins are truly random. That's AP talk, bla, bla, bla....
Roulette wheels are suppose to spit out RANDOM spins. Period.
By random, it means events are independent and unbias.
If spins are independent and unbias, this must mean the spins are
NOT predictable.
Every system posted on forums
ASSUME some form of predictability.
How can that exist with random ?
No way such predictability exist.
Simple logic, no brainer thing.
That's why Steve's post ask is plain stupid.
(Read his post)
The key word is farking
RANDOM.
If spins were unpredictable, nothing could beat roulette. No system, no computer, no AP. Nothing.
Yet you say a magical system beats roulette.
So which is it?
Quote from: luckyfella on Sep 25, 07:24 AM 2019Roulette wheels are suppose to spit out RANDOM spins. Period.
Supposed to. But thats not reality.
Quote from: Steve on Sep 25, 07:28 AM 2019
So which is it?
You can keep asking......
Enjoy yourself
Guys, It's not a war between us here. Let's not talk in riddles anymore and use plain English. Is there another way to beat roulette, except Steve's way? I mean could be a way?
Quote from: Serendipity on Sep 25, 07:13 AM 2019
Dear lucky, Try to explain us all here. Let's not wait for Joe.
I have given you the answer.
I know it's not what you want to hear but it's facts that I post.
Read it a million times until you
GET IT.
Quote from: Serendipity on Sep 25, 07:34 AM 2019
Is there another way to beat roulette, except Steve's way? I mean could be a way?
If someone claims there is another way, Steve, caleb, APers and a whole army of naysayers will bazooka you into smithereens.
That's forum for you.
About steve's computer.
Read below. vv
Quote from: Serendipity on Sep 25, 07:34 AM 2019Is there another way to beat roulette, except Steve's way? I mean could be a way?
I believe there is. It just clearly isn't the same nonsense already proven to fail, with logic and math to back up claims they fail. Plus the entire professional gaming community says the same thing. The whole gambling industry is based on the realities.
But what Lucky doesnt understand is when more experienced members explain why an approach fails, it isnt personal, or about selling something.... or maybe i paid the whole world to help me sell scam computers.
Lucky expects everyone to agree Earth is flat.
Quote from: Serendipity on Sep 25, 07:11 AM 2019
I'm talking about a regular player, not cameras or anything else, 'no more bets' is called almost instantly.
So if it's 100% math, it can be beaten with math!
And we realize that after 10 blacks it's still 50/50 to hit another black, but to have 10 blacks in a row at a certain time could be beaten! The pattern breaker is the key.
Steve's entire
life is about cameras.
Understand why he makes those same repetitive post ?
Lucky, i dont need computers to beat roulette. There are various ways to beat roulette.
If you have at tricycle and a Lamborghini. Which would you prefer to drive?
And i dont need roulette or sales of anything to be comfortable.
You're just throwing mud now. Because you have nothing better to say.
Quote from: Steve on Sep 25, 08:03 AM 2019
Lucky, i dont need computers to beat roulette. There are various ways to beat roulette.
Start a thread. Teach your members how to make money. Make it real
Else it's another bs talk
Already have. And lots of people pay a fortune for my advice. Here you get it free. I can even beat people in the face with it. Still most people dont get it.
Riddles... Riddles... Riddles :(
Only riddles if you havent been here long, or havent been paying attention.