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Title: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 12:52 PM 2010
Here is my Christmas&New year gift.

--FLAT BET--vertical lines;

line;
1       1 4  7........1/4 1un.   4/7 1un.
2       2 5  8........2/5 1un.   5/8 1un.
3       3 6  9........3/6 1un.   6/9 1un.
4     10 13 16..10/131un.13/161un.
5     11 14 17..11/141un.14/171un.
6     12 15 18..12/151un.15/181un.
7     19 22 25..19/221un.22/251un.
8     20 23 26..20/231un.23/261un.
9     21 24 27..21/241un.24/271un.
10   28 31 34..28/311un.31/341un.
11   29 32 35..29/321un.32/351un.
12   30 33 36..30/331un.33/361un.

---FLAT BET RECENT/LAST/6 LINES REPEATEDLY.
Either lose=12
or       win =  6
or       win= 24....in 33%

btw--THIS IS NOT PROMISED WINNING BET....its a winning bet.
         
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: Fripper on Dec 25, 01:07 PM 2010
Please give one little explanation.

If lets say last 6 lines is 1,3,7,8,12

What do we bet?

Thanks for sharing and merry christmas!
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: A3on on Dec 25, 01:08 PM 2010
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 12:52 PM 2010

by the way--THIS IS NOT PROMISED WINNING BET....its a winning bet.
         

How can you be so sure? :P
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: A3on on Dec 25, 01:09 PM 2010
Quote from: Fripper on Dec 25, 01:07 PM 2010
Please give one little explanation.

If lets say last 6 lines is 1,3,7,8,12

What do we bet?

Thanks for sharing and merry christmas!

For what I understood you need to have 6lines to start betting
I will try make a quick test and post here for F_LAT_INO comment  :)
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: sekuritati on Dec 25, 01:14 PM 2010
Quote from: Fripper on Dec 25, 01:07 PM 2010
Please give one little explanation.

If lets say last 6 lines is 1,3,7,8,12

What do we bet?

Thanks for sharing and merry christmas!

those are 5 lines not 6 but still for explanation you bet on the splits

1/4 4/7
3/6 6/9
19/22 22/25
20/23 23/26
30/33 33/36

if you get a hit on numbers which are covered with half unit you net 6 units overall profit from the spin, if you hit numbers which are covered with two halves you net 24 units profit

very simple and straightforward system.

I will test and report
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 01:15 PM 2010
Quote from: Fripper on Dec 25, 01:07 PM 2010
Please give one little explanation.

If lets say last 6 lines is 1,3,7,8,12

What do we bet?

Thanks for sharing and merry christmas!


1/4 1un......4/7 1un.
3/6 1un......6/9 1un
19/22 1un....22/25 1un.
17/20 1un....20/23 1un.
30/33 1un....33/36 1un.

The 6th line you didnt provide.
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 01:16 PM 2010
Quote from: A3on on Dec 25, 01:08 PM 2010
How can you be so sure? :P
You must find out it for yourself.
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: Fripper on Dec 25, 01:18 PM 2010
Sorry, I must have been dreaming when I wrote the post.

Thanks guys
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: flukey luke on Dec 25, 01:18 PM 2010
FLAT, how do you chose which to bet, either the current or the last? or does it not matter!
Just curious.
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: A3on on Dec 25, 01:26 PM 2010
F_LAT_INO, here is a really QUICK test.
Can you tell me if I'm doing it right?

link:://img404.imageshack.us/i/test1m.jpg/ (link:://img404.imageshack.us/i/test1m.jpg/)
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: GLC on Dec 25, 01:28 PM 2010
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 12:52 PM 2010
Here is my Christmas&New year gift.

--FLAT BET--vertical lines;

line;
1       1 4  7........1/4 1un.   4/7 1un.
2       2 5  8........2/5 1un.   5/8 1un.
3       3 6  9........3/6 1un.   6/9 1un.
4     10 13 16..10/131un.13/161un.
5     11 14 17..11/141un.14/171un.
6     12 15 18..12/151un.15/181un.
7     19 22 25..19/221un.22/251un.
8     20 23 26..20/231un.23/261un.
9     21 24 27..21/241un.24/271un.
10   28 31 34..28/311un.31/341un.
11   29 32 35..29/321un.32/351un.
12   30 33 36..30/331un.33/361un.

---FLAT BET RECENT/LAST/6 LINES REPEATEDLY.
Either lose=12
or       win =  6
or       win= 24....in 33%

by the way--THIS IS NOT PROMISED WINNING BET....its a winning bet.
         

Flat,

Hey, I can play this one on my airball machine.  Flat bet 12 units.  I could get all the way to $2 units.

Have you tried this on your airball machine?

Just to make sure, you bet 6 units on the furthest 3 lines (not your normal horizontal lines but vertical lines) and 6 units on the most recent 3 lines.  Breaking each line into 2 split bets.  

Easy to play.  

I'll help test it.

Thanks,

George
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: A3on on Dec 25, 01:29 PM 2010
Quote from: A3on on Dec 25, 01:26 PM 2010
F_LAT_INO, here is a really QUICK test.
Can you tell me if I'm doing it right?

link:://img404.imageshack.us/i/test1m.jpg/ (link:://img404.imageshack.us/i/test1m.jpg/)

ok forget it !
I made everything wrong  :(
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: A3on on Dec 25, 01:32 PM 2010
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 12:52 PM 2010

---FLAT BET RECENT/LAST/6 LINES REPEATEDLY.


Recent and Last are opposite bets.
So how do we know when to play last and when to play recent?

For example:
we bet like this
recent
last
recent
last
recent
last
recent
last

and we end with +24 units.

Now lets imagine the same "spins" but we started with last:
last
recent
last
recent
last
recent
last
recent

if the spins are the same and we didn't got any 0 on the way we would end with -24 units


:s
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: Fripper on Dec 25, 01:35 PM 2010
Most recent is the newest number

Last number is the newest number

Right? :)
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: sekuritati on Dec 25, 01:38 PM 2010
Must not confuse last with furthest

Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: A3on on Dec 25, 01:40 PM 2010
So when F_LAT_INO mencioned "FLAT BET RECENT/LAST/6 LINES REPEATEDLY."
Recent/Last is the same thing right?

I was confusing last with furthest , sorry
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 01:40 PM 2010
Quote from: A3on on Dec 25, 01:26 PM 2010
F_LAT_INO, here is a really QUICK test.
Can you tell me if I'm doing it right?

link:://img404.imageshack.us/i/test1m.jpg/ (link:://img404.imageshack.us/i/test1m.jpg/)

You aren't doing it right.Recheck it up....all wrong.
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 01:46 PM 2010
--RECENTS--LAST 6 INDIVIDUAL VERTICAL LINES



--but supose one can play it as he wishes
--I just didn't wish it to be complicated,just un example of the bet.
--One could play,as George suggested....3 recents 3 furthest also.
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: A3on on Dec 25, 01:47 PM 2010
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 01:40 PM 2010
You aren't doing it right.Recheck it up....all wrong.

I messed up the lines my friend  :(
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: GLC on Dec 25, 02:01 PM 2010
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 01:46 PM 2010
--RECENTS--LAST 6 INDIVIDUAL VERTICAL LINES



--but supose one can play it as he wishes
--I just didn't wish it to be complicated,just un example of the bet.
--One could play,as George suggested....3 recents 3 furthest also.

Okay Flat,

Sounds like what you are saying is that we play the last 6 vertical lines to hit.  The furthest back 6 lines aren't considered in this system.

I can see why you would like this.  No need to answer my question about playing it on your airball machine.  The answer is obvious.

Cheers and Thanks for the Christmas gift,

George
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: A3on on Dec 25, 02:03 PM 2010
F_LAT_INO I'm very sorry for my last "test" I messed everything =/

Here is another, I'm pretty sure this one is alright ;)

(link:://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1456/test1sj.jpg) (link:://img534.imageshack.us/i/test1sj.jpg/)

Afonso
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 02:04 PM 2010
Quote from: A3on on Dec 25, 01:47 PM 2010
I messed up the lines my friend  :(
Take it easy,but once you get use of this bet you will find
it very interesting.I choose recents as favorable cause of many repeats on
airball machine,but think that will play this method on my trip to Macau
constantly.
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: A3on on Dec 25, 02:06 PM 2010
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 02:04 PM 2010
Take it easy,but once you get use of this bet you will find
it very interesting.I choose recents as favorable cause of many repeats on
airball machine,but think that will play this method on my trip to Macau
constantly.

Thanks :)
Do you recomment it for live play too?

I normally just play with dealer, I'm not used to airball machines =/
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 02:16 PM 2010
Quote from: A3on on Dec 25, 02:06 PM 2010
Thanks :)
Do you recomment it for live play too?

I normally just play with dealer, I'm not used to airball machines =/
Ido not know cause didn't test it thatway,but with my past airball
machine results.You could test it woth live dealers.....on many ways......
RECENTS----FURTHEST---MIX---whatever you prefer,as you never bet the same bet.
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: A3on on Dec 25, 02:20 PM 2010
I will :)

Can you just tell me if my test is well done, please?
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 02:25 PM 2010
Quote from: A3on on Dec 25, 02:20 PM 2010
I will :)

Can you just tell me if my test is well done, please?
Ithink it did,except that you started betting to early,following 5 vert. lines....as 7,7
is one virtual.And as I said,you might test it opposite,whichever works best with the live dealer.
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: A3on on Dec 25, 02:37 PM 2010
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 02:25 PM 2010
Ithink it did,except that you started betting to early,following 5 vert. lines....as 7,7
is one virtual.And as I said,you might test it opposite,whichever works best with the live dealer.

I think I started at the right time.
As 7,7 is one virtual I waited for one more (line 5) and then started betting
(3-8-11-12-7-7-5) --> 7 lines but 6 different lines
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Dec 25, 02:40 PM 2010
Quote from: A3on on Dec 25, 02:37 PM 2010
I think I started at the right time.
As 7,7 is one virtual I waited for one more (line 5) and then started betting
(3-8-11-12-7-7-5) --> 7 lines but 6 different lines
ok then,keep testing it either way.
Am sure you will find the way.
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: Xoomax on Dec 29, 01:19 PM 2010
Has written about this system at two Russian-speaking forums of roulette players ââ,¬Â¦

System the ORDINARY MIRACLE, as the New Year's and Christmas gift for all roulette players.     .     .     

We play equal rates, flat bet - without a progression.      Preliminary we wait, losses of 6 streets.     
1-2-3 - street 1, 4-5-6 - street 2 and ââ,¬Â¦ So, to begin with we need to wait losses of last 6, various streets.     
Let's assume that has dropped out 17, 24, 8, 2, 14, 12 - 6 various streets - 4 5 1 3 8 6 (4(12) 5(14) 1(2)3(8) 8 (24) 6 (17)
Further we close, 18 numbers on 3 numbers, for everyone street - conformity street - numbers, is specified in the table:


1   1 4 7 .     .        1/4 1ед.       4/7 1ед.     
2   2 5 8 .     .     .   2/5 1ед.       5/8 1ед.     
3   3 6 9 .     .     .   3/6 1ед.       6/9 1ед.     
4  10 13 16.     .     10/13 1ед.      13/16 1ед.     
5  11 14 17.     .     11/14 1ед.      14/17 1ед.     
6  12 15 18.     .     12/15 1ед.      15/18 1ед.     
7  19 22 25.     .     19/22 1ед.      22/25 1ед.     
8  20 23 26.     .     20/23 1ед.      23/26 1ед.     
9  21 24 27.     .     21/24 1ед.      24/27 1ед.     
10 28 31 34.      28/31 1ед.      31/34 1ед.     
11 29 32 35.      29/32 1ед.      32/35 1ед.     
12 30 33 36.      30/33 1ед.      33/36 1ед.     

Ours street 4 5 1 3 8 6, means we close on 1 counter on everyone split 10/13-13/16, 11/14-14/16, 1/4-4/7, 3/6-6/9, 20/23-23/26, 12/15-15/18 - only 12 units/counters.     
We can, or lose 12 counters, or win 6 un/24 un - counters.     

Drops out 9, that means that we has played split 6/9 - the rate 12, payment 18, at us + 6 counters.      9 is 3 street, means, we repeat our rate (the last 6 streets will be 3 4 5 1 8 6) Drops out 23, it means that 2 our rates on 1 counter - 20/23 and 23/26 have played and this of backs brings to us + 24 counters.   .   .   

Test Continuation, on examples  from casino Wiesbaden from December, 11th, 3 table.   .   .   


17 6
24 8
8 3
2 1
14 5
12 4        600
9 3 4 5 1 3 8 6 12 18 606
23 8 3 4 5 1 8 6 12 36 630
29 10 8 3 4 5 1 6 12 618
9 3 10 8 3 4 5 1 12 18 624
22 8 3 10 8 4 5 1 12 612
2 1 8 3 10 4 5 1 12 600
10 4 1 8 3 10 4 5 12 18 606
26 9 4 1 8 3 10 5 12 18 612
23 8 9 4 1 8 3 10 12 36 636
15 5 8 9 4 1 3 10 12 624
23 8 5 8 9 4 1 3 12 36 648
12 4 8 5 9 4 1 3 12 636
5 2 4 8 5 9 1 3 12 624
9 3 2 4 8 5 9 1 12 612
16 6 3 2 4 8 5 9 12 18 618
24 8 6 3 2 4 8 5 12 606
27 9 8 6 3 2 4 5 12 594
31 11 9 8 6 3 2 4 12 582
33 11 11 9 8 6 3 2 12 570
30 10 11 9 8 6 3 2 12 558
24 8 10 11 9 8 6 3 12 36 582
22 8 8 10 11 9 6 3 12 570
35 12 8 10 11 9 6 3 12 18 576
20 7 12 8 10 11 9 6 12 18 582
26 9 7 12 8 10 11 9 12 18 588
13 5 9 7 12 8 10 11 12 576
17 6 5 9 7 12 8 10 12 18 582
21 7 6 5 9 7 12 8 12 18 588
11 4 7 6 5 9 12 8 12 18 594
17 6 4 7 6 5 9 12 12 18 600
15 5 6 4 7 5 9 12 12 36 624
33 11 5 6 4 7 9 12 12 36 648
25 9 11 5 6 4 7 9 12 18 654
12 4 9 11 5 6 4 7 12 18 660


All is simple, equal rates on system the ORDINARY MIRACLE, 40 spins and we increase ours BR by 10 % - began with 600 counters, became 660  ::)
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: N0vocane on Jan 07, 11:58 AM 2011
Why not use a progression? Wait for 4 virtual losses then 1111,222,33,4,7,9,12 (I just wrote that down as an example. I'm sure there is a better progression)

What is the most losses in a row have you seen on this?
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: Colbster on Jan 08, 01:53 PM 2011
There is no betting advantage to this method.

18 times out of 36 you lose 12 = -216
12 times out of 36 you gain 6 = +72
6 times out of 36 you gain 24 = +144

Net of all 36 = 0
You get beat by the 0/00 every time.  Hit a few misses in a row and the -12's add up very quickly. 
Title: Re: FLAT BET--GLC NIGHTMARE IDEA
Post by: N0vocane on Jan 08, 03:55 PM 2011
Quote from: Colbster on Jan 08, 01:53 PM 2011
There is no betting advantage to this method.

18 times out of 36 you lose 12 = -216
12 times out of 36 you gain 6 = +72
6 times out of 36 you gain 24 = +144

Net of all 36 = 0
You get beat by the 0/00 every time.  Hit a few misses in a row and the -12's add up very quickly. 

Not if you play at a no 0 table at betvoyager.


Has anyone tried using a progression on this system? Waiting for 4-5 virtual losses then using a fibonacci progression. F_LAT what do you think?