U will not have heard me say this before, but for the interim process, we ignore ZERO, my beautiful friend. ::)
I was given a challenge, to see if I could Manufacture a system out of a simple premise.
I have thought. :question:
I have drawn. :o
I have doodled. :xd:
I have a conclusion. ???
Lets see if it can work. :-[
(6thsense.....................tell me how close I am please) :-\
9 Movements
Given a table/felt laid out thus-
aa, ab, ac
ba, bb, bc
ca, cb, cc
aa= 1,4,7,10
ab= 2,5,8,11
ac= 3,6,9,12
ba= 13,16,19,22
bb= 14,17,20,23
bc= 15,18,21,24
ca= 25,28,31,34
cb= 26,29,32,35
cc= 27,30,33,36
(refer to this (link:://rouletteforum.cc/roulette-and-gambling-framework/common-sense-betting/msg13071/#msg13071) for my first input)(and here (link:://rouletteforum.cc/roulette-and-gambling-framework/common-sense-betting/msg12589/#msg12589) for the originator- commonsense196)
Here's the bet.
last result lands on aa
Movement-
next bet= bb,bc,ca,cb,cc...........can cover all numbers flat bet (20 numbers) or use splits.
here's the next bet.
last result lands on ab
Movement-
next bet= ac,bc,ca,cb,cc........... ditto..................ditto...............ditto
here's the next bet.
last result lands on ac
Movement-
next bet= ab,ba,bb,bc,cb..........ditto..................ditto...............ditto
here's the next bet.
last result lands on ba
Movement-
next bet= ac,bc,ca,cb,cc.............ditto.................ditto...............ditto
here's the next bet
last result lands on bb
Movement-
next bet= aa,ac,bc,ca,cc............ditto..................ditto...............ditto
here's the next bet
last results lands on bc
Movement-
next bet= aa,ab,ac,bc,ca...........ditto................ditto.................ditto
here's the next bet
last results lands on ca
Movement-
next bet= ab,bc,bb,bc,cb...........ditto................ditto................ditto
here's the next bet
last results lands on cb
Movement-
next bet = aa,ab,ac,ba,ca.........ditto................ditto.................ditto
here's the next bet
last result lands on cc
Movement-
next bet= aa,ab,ac,ba,bb.........ditto................ditto..................ditto
I'll post up some nice drawings to illustrate the bet,
the movement expected,
to show the next bet after such/particular lands result.
Post up any ideas Fella's/Sheila's.
Cheers chris
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Before any1 asks- no I have not tested this theory out yet,
only just concluded the thinking process on it.
testing next.
Cheers. C
that's big progress honestly. going from betting just cold dozens to matrix idea. good luck.
Absolutely brilliant, Chris! Tested it virtually in real money mode on my RNG casino and it's playing beautifully. I will test this with real money when I am able.
Thank for your share, but I think it have some problem
When I test with some number on my spins list (i have from real casino) I saw them
Let's check, my friend
36 cc=aa,ab,ac,ba,bb
2 W ab=ac,bc,ca,cb,cc
28 L ca= ab,bc,bb,bc,c
25 L ca= ab,bc,bb,bc,c
4 L aa=bb,bc,ca,cb,cc
21 W bc=aa,ab,ac,bc,ca
32 L cb=aa,ab,ac,ba,ca
21 L bc=aa,ab,ac,bc,ca
14 L bb= aa,ac,bc,ca,cc
26 L cb=aa,ab,ac,ba,ca
33 L cc=aa,ab,ac,ba,bb
36 L cc=aa,ab,ac,ba,bb
29 L cb=aa,ab,ac,ba,ca
33 L cc=aa,ab,ac,ba,bb
15 L bc=aa,ab,ac,bc,ca
21 L bc=aa,ab,ac,bc,ca
9 W ac=ab,ba,bb,bc,cb
Quote from: BACUMY on Jan 28, 02:45 AM 2011
Thank for your share, but I think it have some ploblem
When I test with some number on my spins list (i have from real casino) I saw them
Let's check, my friend
36
9 W ac=ab,ba,bb,bc,cb
I don't know if its right yet!
It may even be 90/180/270* out of phase !!
I need lots of thoughts, testing, and above all
the originators input.
Cheers for looking in BACUMY. ;)
It's true. Hope you will consider a safer method
Best wish for you :)
ah .. did you test my method?
is it good?
Quote from: BACUMY on Jan 28, 02:53 AM 2011
It's true. Hope you will consider a safer method
Best wish for you :)
ah .. did you test my method?
is it good?
Still testing it!! :)
Quote from: chrisbis on Jan 28, 03:07 AM 2011
Still testing it!! :)
i think with this method, we can strigger W
After WLLL (lose: 3 times) waiting to W again and restart with hight level
I will continue testing it with strigger W
If have news I will report to you
But with this method we need bet to 8 split, so we need a large amount of money to win
one small step for man one giant leap for mankind.......interesting directions chris.
let you know tommorrow how the TNA WRESTLING TOUR goes tonite at the men arena
Hi folks.
I think this Topic is going to adapt and change in many ways.
The first few words and attributes that I have articulation, may be completely incorrect.
So PLEASE bear that in mind, when taking data from these threads.
Here's some data from a quick spin analysis I have just done.
I am also going to ask other 'copious' posters, to "Feed" me with as much information as possible, so I can achieve the widest consensus on this idea.
I need this.
Where the Marquee landed, and then where the Marquee landing/moved to next.
For instance, lets just for this case say that the Ball landed in socket number#8.
Number 8 is in the 1St Dozen, third column.
But I don't want that type of information about its(the landing) location.
What I need is this:-
In which of 9 sectors/zones/areas did the ball/Marquee land in.
The numbers can be put into sectors just like F LAT INO/OPHIS tracker did that are labelled 1 through 9
Numbers 1, 4, 7, 10 = Sector 1= aa
Numbers 2, 5, 8, 11 = Sector 2= ab
Numbers 3, 6, 9, 12 = Sector 3= ac
Numbers 13,16,19,22 = Sector 4 = ba
Numbers 14,17,20,23 = Sector 5 = bb
Numbers 15,18,21,24 = Sector 6 = bc
Numbers 25,28,31,34 = Sector 7 = ca
Numbers 26,29,32,35 = Sector 8 = cb
Numbers 27,30,33,36 = Sector 9 = cc
This is how we need to see ANY ressults coming in.
Hence, say ball landed in #8 =sector 2 = ab
Then the next movement the ball/marquee makes, is a movement FROM ab to..........?
Here are my 92 spins from a small sample from Casino.Com- fun account this afternoon, and the second page/attachment is my rapid style analysis of where those landings for EACH of the 9 Sectors- moved TO!
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The Analysis
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The Underlined or Multiple underline sectors, shows the movement landed there more than once.
Sub analysis to follow. next post- need a coffee break.............if only I smoked eh!!!(Narrhh!!)
i think its a lot easier to read aa ab ac fashion.....u will miss things with just the numbering 1 to 9 tracking :-X
just a quick example for you ie results ac,ba,ba,cb,ab....none of which are triggers unless you want them ...you have 2 references doz and col.
1,6,4,8,9,4,3 you have no reference at all to build a system on,next example as follows so think on this.
ab,ca,bc,AA now this is a double letter same as BB CC these could be a trigger if you want them to be.so here is an EXAMPLE to make a simple flat bet from this.
the table is running with these results ca,bc,cb,ba,bb..this is your trigger next out as to be 2 different letters side by side not a double lets say its ca.....you now have a bet you can either bet on everything with ca in it ie doz c col c doz a col a which is 32 numbers with the theory that a letter c or a letter a will come into the next bet for 1 play only winning you 4 units.the BB letters will not be covered as they are not in the equation on this hit.
the odds of losing is far less than you would imagine for this flat bet.
the question is would you win more than you lose per session? or would you bet on the 4 missing numbers instead thats not in the equation....a good bet for the maths guys no doubt.
tthis is a working example of only 1 bet within the matrix to get you on the right track there are many more
Well I really hope that the good fellow,
6Th sense can expand on that post,
and enlighten THIS willing soul.
:thumbsup:
Today, my very good friend superman (yes, I know the Superhero personally!!)
made me a bot, with the soul purpose of just capturing and registering the sector/zone that a ball/spin result moved from and to.
Its called "WheretoWhere"................catchy title eh!!.....thanx superman. x
It gets, not just that the ball landed on say #30, then moved to #18, but the simpler notation, WRT, which sector the spin landed and which sector the spin next moved to.
So we get a stats file like this:-
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The first letters are the current sector,
the second set are where the marquee/ball moved to,
such that aa cc means that the ball moved from sector aa over to sector cc
(in number terms that would be 1,4,7,10 moving to 27,30,33,36)
File contains Approx 375 spins from Casino.com fun table. (Play money account)
Then, I have extrapolated the results from the stats file, into a form of distribution analysis sheet for each sector, giving me, the Starting point sector, and then noting WHERE the marquee moved to, and how many times that occurred in the 375 spins.
Thy are hand written notes, so forgive the rough state of the sheets!!
As we know, there are 9 sectors, so there will be 9 report sheets:- this is what they look like, and how the spread of the distributed sectors, would then assure me of an AVERAGE bet, should the marquee land in that sector.
In others words- "Given 'XX' sector result- Where to next?"
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And so now, onto the testing phase,
to see if the Proposed Bet,
from the sequence given to Us by the 375 spin analysis,
lives up to the dream!!
More coffee/tea vicar?
What the above data sheets show me, (initially)
is:-
Land in sector aa, next bet would be- sectors aa & ab & bc & cc (option on adding ac* & ba*)
Land in sector ab, next bet would be- sectors ab & bb & ca & cc (option on adding bc* & cb*)
Land in sector ac, next bet would be- sectors ab & ac & ba & cb
Land in sector ba, next bet would be- sectors ba & bb & cc
Land in sector bb, next bet would be- sectors aa & bb & cc (option on adding ab* & ac* & ba*)
Land in sector bc, next bet would be- sectors bb & bc & ca (option on adding ab* & cb* & cc*)
Land in sector ca, next bet would be- sectors ab & bc & ca & cb (option on adding ab* & ba*)
Land in sector cb, next bet would be- sectors bc & ca & cb & cc (option on adding ac* & bb*)
Land in sector cc, next bet would be- sectors ba & ca & cc (option on adding aa* & ab* & ac*)
That completes the votes for the UK Eurovisiooon spun contest.
Nil poi so far results eh!! :wink:
[box]Edit
U'll notice that the results point to a fair degree of 'repeat' on the next movement, i.e. the spun result stays exactly where it is, within a given sector.
Does not ordinarily mean the ball landed on the same number per-say, just that it landed in the same sector, on the next spin result! [/box]
Just did quick 30 spins or so at Fairway casino-
demo money account (Demo, but with real live spin results, no RNG in site!!)
And, it did rather well!!
Better that 21/30 spins won!
Needs thorough testing now chaps, then tweak accordingly!!
A VERY SIMPLE WAY OF LOOKING AT IT BUT I DON,T THINK YOU WILL FIND ANYTHING THERE CHRIS IT DOESN,T MATTER WHERE IT LANDS IN THAT KIND OF RESPECT YOU ARE DOING THATS ALL HAPPENED AT THE END OF YOUR SPINS NOT DURING THE COURSE OF THE GAME ITSELF.your explanation is like looking at red and blacks at the end then saying red came out most thats the way to go....every time you test in your way i will guarantee you will get completley different results... its all there in the commonsense thread and a way to look is my previous post which is self explanatory.
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 29, 03:09 AM 2011
A VERY.................... its all there in the commonsense thread and a way to look is my previous post which is self explanatory.
That's easy for U to say when U have a mouth full of plumes!!
How was the wrestling?
Cause I could do with UR expert help in "wrestling" with explanation.
Can U make it Crystal clear for me?
U know- like we would explain to a client when we have to make it-
"AS CLEAR AS MUD!"
PLEASE.
Thanx for the advise, on retrospective viewing.
:thumbsup:
i already have and yes wrestling was great especially the women wrestlers
I'm studying it again. Thank U for such patience. :-[
Why is there Ur 'sense', that in the running series:-
ca....bc....ba....bb (S*7 moves to S*6 moves to S*4 moves to S*5) (S* denotes sector)
that U intimate the following prophecy :-
- U 'think' anything with-a 'a' or a 'c' in the sector will show
- It will not Number repeat (which ever that was!)
- It will not Sector repeat
Such that Ur '
confident' enough to place a bet on
ALL the other sectors (8 Sectors)
To win 4 units from 32 chips bet.?
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yes thats it in a nutshell .its a working example units may be high but the odds are more in your favour.do people not bet a lot more on marty to win 1 unit?
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 29, 02:05 PM 2011
yes thats it in a nutshell .its a working example units may be high but the odds are more in your favour.do people not bet a lot more on marty to win 1 unit?
They sure do.
But Y
THAT bet at
THAT time?
What state of the union between man and his wheel, has occurred, to make THAT outcome more likely?
It could just repeat
It could just repeat, yes a third time- we have seen it, lots of us, and in that scenario, one would have lost 64 units!
(Edit-unless U would not back it to happen twice in succession?)
That's a lot of 4's to win every time, to regain it back.
And then U would be just back to where U started.
And after this, how do U gauge this Movement?
Cause its looking less like a movement FLAT bet, and more like a SPREAD bet ARRANGEMENT?
I'd appreciate another example if U please 6Th,
showing what constitutes the trigger,
and where this 'conscious' bet comes from? Again with a pretty please :embarrassed:
chris i,ve never seen a loss 3 times in a row with this????and would be surprised if you did . to lose 32 you would have to win 8 times in a row to recover.if you did actually tested this and you NEW you wouldn,t win or to put it this way if you new you would lose at least once once every 10 bets would you either bet on the 32numbers or progress on the that you could lose on plus zero?
i don,t know how you can say about lose 3 times in a row with this selection method without even testing ???