This will hopefully be a productive thread. I have some questions about the dozens as I am sure others do. There should be some people in here that can contribute their knowledge to help out everyone.
Whats the average amount of time a dozen shows in "X" number of spins?
-Victor has posted that everything should be played in a cycle. On a single number bet he suggests that you play a 37spin cycle. What would the cycle look like for betting on a dozen? Do the dozens have to adhere to any rock solid facts just like single numbers? As an example, every number being hit within a 37 spin sequence, although it is possible but not probable is there anything like this that applies to the dozens?
Whats the longest series of spins without a dozen repeating?
-Is there even any stats for this? I believe I read somewhere that someone claimed there were over 30+ consecutive spins without a dozen repeating. Has anyone here seen longer? Is it possible to use Bayes program that he made to find out this information?
I have some more questions that I will post in due time but I do not want this to become cluttered and distracting. If anyone else has any questions please chime in!
Hey BigEZ, thanks for the quote. Regarding:
QuoteWhat would the cycle look like for betting on a dozen?
It would be a 3-spin cycle for dozens/columns. Remember the cycle is computed like <36> / <numbers covered by location>, in this case as it it 12 numbers, then 36 / 12 = 3 spins per cycle :thumbsup:
Vic
Vic,
I know that for a flat bet a breakeven cycle would be 3 spins. When I asked about a cycle for the dozens I did not mean a flat bet break even cycle. I guess I just kept writing and did not write what I meant clearly.
When I was referring the the cycles to use with the dozens it was going back to the original question of: what's the average amount of times a dozen show in X spins. I wanted to know the cycle in terms of X spins.
Sorry for the confusion
Quotewhat's the average amount of times a dozen show in X spins.
It's still
1 show per 3 spins proportion ;)
1 in 3 spins
2 in 6 spins
3 in 9 spins
4 in 12 spins...
Those are the expected
averages. (Plus Computing the -2.7% from the zero) The casino relies on it; the only possible "backdoor" as applied by players being to capitalize on the short-term, and its "quirks" (as in their spin-to-spin development and deviations, i.e. hot dozens, etc.).
"what's the longest series of spins without a dozen repeating?
-Is there even any stats for this? I believe I read somewhere that someone claimed there were over 30+ consecutive spins without a dozen repeating. Has anyone here seen longer? Is it possible to use Bayes program that he made to find out this information?"
You'll find some answers in the stickies at the top of the page here:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/testing-zone/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/testing-zone/)
i think on average a dozen will hit 3 times, thats what i see.
an average for a dozen not to hit, not sure.
i gave up dozen play as its to hard to predict.
but a cycle of 3 might be the way to go like victor said.
but im not sure how you would play it, maybe spin twice and bet the dozen that didnt hit, this could be the trigger.
if the same dozen hits 2 or more then retrack a new trigger.
at first flat bet
1,1,1 if loss
2,2,2
4,4,4
i wouldnt play this progression, it will need something better, thats just an example.
cause you are only betting once out of the 3 spins then you can play this 3 times making it 9 spins (well its something like that).
so all in all, you bet the last spin of the 3 spin cycle, if no hit from 3 of these cycles then go up a stage on progression.
at least sleepers cant get this system, unless it dosent hit, if it keeps going back to the other 2 dozens then wait till it hits that new dozen and then start tracking.
its just a thought but sounds good.