Gents,
Explanations in the excel.
You will find it very interesting,simple and profitable.
If you don't take me seriously you just retest to be sure.
Good luck.
BTW--This is 8/1 quads bet.
Thanks :)
Jon
could you explain a little bit more in detail sorry yo be a pest
Quote from: joiner29 on May 14, 11:17 AM 2011
Could you explain a little bit more in detail sorry yo be a pest
Can't explain it better then I did in excel.
;D this method look like Surfer i have presented you some time ago :)
nice that you have found it inspiring.
btw: there is one old method on old vls something like "try this" (can't remember) anyway the main idea is to bet 3 columns(or dozens or both) and each of them with separate progression lankys 6point divisor. This method only loses because of zero. but i quite sure it will be a winner on bv. i have somewhere bot for it... need to convert it into tracker.
ophis your the man
Quote from: ophis on May 14, 11:24 AM 2011
;D this method look like Surfer I have presented you some time ago :)
nice that you have found it inspiring.
by the way: there is one old method on old VLS something like "try this" (can't remember) anyway the main idea is to bet 3 columns(or dozens or both) and each of them with separate progression lankys 6point divisor. This method only loses because of zero. but I quite sure it will be a winner on bv. I have somewhere bot for it... need to convert it into tracker.
This I been working for a while now,the difference here is cause its zig-zag covering other 2 columns....and after each any win restart from 1 un.....Think that tracker would be appreciated very much.........no stop W/L......NEVER MIND A ZERO......Tracker with a zero would be preferable.......Thk.Ophis mate
could this be used at no zero RNG like betvoyager
Quote from: joiner29 on May 14, 12:35 PM 2011
Could this be used at no zero RNG like betvoyager
Nooooooo.......Haven't you realise it as yet that that isn't roulette.
There you go guys
Graph for 177 spins
+218
Quote from: ophis on May 14, 11:24 AM 2011
;D this method look like Surfer I have presented you some time ago :)
nice that you have found it inspiring.
by the way: there is one old method on old VLS something like "try this" (can't remember) anyway the main idea is to bet 3 columns(or dozens or both) and each of them with separate progression lankys 6point divisor. This method only loses because of zero. but I quite sure it will be a winner on bv. I have somewhere bot for it... need to convert it into tracker.
Which method do you mean? F_lat_ino's or the one from old VLS?
Quote from: D1 on May 14, 01:44 PM 2011
There you go guys
Graph for 177 spins
+218
Yes it can sometimes goes down some but it very quickly recovers,therefore no need for a stop-loss....it always come on top.
read excel etc , still cant figure out what actual bets im placing? maybe its lack of coffee maybe its lack of brain:)))))
I dont understand it to.
Sorry Flat ;D
Jon
i will try to explain u bet all quads
1,2, 2,3,
4,5, 5,6,
all the way down the cloth to
31,32, 32,33,
34,35, 35,36
then u bet 1 unit on every quad if a number in column 2 lands u win start again, if a number in column 1 or 3 lands you only lose 3 units stagger the bets in a zig zag pattern from the winning bet plus 2 on a loss minus 1 on a win its really easy when you start only real problem is the dreaded zero hope this helps and FLAT doesnt mind
ahh now im starting to get it, thanks,,,,,in essence the whole board is covered? with the middle row numbers giving you profit on hits and zeros killing ya
keep testing and u will see it all falls into place
tom
this system means we choose one of the zig zag and follow them until we reach out need? Wat is the bankroll needed for this system?
A-bet B-bet
1 2 2 3
4 5 5 6
8 9 7 8
11 12 10 11
14 15 13 14
17 18 16 17
19 20 20 21
22 23 23 24
26 27 25 26
29 30 28 29
31 32 32 33
34 35 35 36
Hope this helps guys.2 up on a lose,1 down on a win.
Whenever in any plus restart from 1 un.Very simple.
Very,very diff.to tank on thisone.....Unless the zero hits
5-6 times in cycle of 37 spins....which is unlikely in each cycle.
by the way--It also can spin much more mid column then predictable,
so in such case with 5-6 zeros you would still be ok.Just finish an
excel/real numbers from my casinos play/of 3000 numbers,where had a situation of 5 zeros in 33 spins but still at the end the method won 3758 un.........this morning
have play it on airball 126 spins,150 won.Unfortunately to large an excel
and can't be sent here.
after the ball hits zero, should we raise both a and b bet?
hello,
iIs it possible to have formulas MATHEMATICS because I have great difficulty understanding only with the excel spreadsheet.
Thank you very much
Quote from: kiamessi on May 15, 12:16 PM 2011
After the ball hits zero, should we raise both a and b bet?
Yes rise 2 on both bets.
Quote from: roseau on May 15, 01:52 PM 2011
Hello,
iIs it possible to have formulas MATHEMATICS because I have great difficulty understanding only with the excel spreadsheet.
Thank you very much
Could you explain what you mean by;formulas MATHEMATICS?????
ok so a 9 shows which is in column A but not in the middle, the whole spin losses 3 units? on your next bet do you raise A and B 2 units or only B?
thanks
FLAT,
what is LEFT, what is RIGHT, what is QUAD, what is ZIGZAG, WHAT to bet, WHEN to bet, HOW to bet, i just don't zits of get how to play this system....:-(
Vundarosa
Quote from: vundarosa on May 15, 03:29 PM 2011
FLAT,
what is LEFT, what is RIGHT, what is QUAD, what is ZIGZAG, WHAT to bet, WHEN to bet, HOW to bet, I just don't zits of get how to play this system....:-(
Vundarosa
here we go again;
--quad is 4 numbers which pays 8/1......expl;1,2,4,5/or 20,21,23,24........and so on
A--bet B--bet
quad- 1,2,4,5 2,3,5,6
quad 8,9,11,12 7,8,10,11
quad 13,14,16,17 14,15,17,18
quad 20,21,23,24 19,20,22,23
quad 25,26,28,29 26,27,29,30
quad 32,33,35,36 31,32,34,35
spoon numbers
12 3+ 6- rise next B bet to 3 un.
33 3+ 6+ 18- 24- rise 5 un.
27 6- 0- rise A to 3 15+ 9- reduce to 4 un.
17 9+ 9+ 12+ 3+ 12+....restart from 1 un when in plus on both bets.I hope its clear now.[/color]
thank you Mr F....now i think i can piece this together............
thanks for taking the time to explain
Pls. recheck and rewrite both A and B bets,as was typo error which I have
corrected now.
i saw that and figured that it was a typo---thanks again
Ok. I recorded the spins from my last visit to the grosvenor casino.
I run them through this system.
Grosvenor Auto Wheel 12/05/2011
163 Spins
Balance Highest 311 at Spin 163
Balance lowest -239 at Spin 99
Total Profit 311.
Couple of things to note. There were no 0s at all which must have helped.
Also at spin 100 I was betting 20 units on the B corners before it started to recover.
Plenty of opportunities to quit session when in profit.
System recovers quite nicely with a few hits on the middle column.
That last visit was a losing trip for me, think I'll give this system a crack on my next visit.
Ive got complete number sets from my last ten visits to grosvenor casino. Ill crunch a few tomorrow and see how it holds up. Testing manually in Rx so takes me ages. Half eleven now, going to bed.
Graph attached.
hello,
functions to achieve results in the excel.
excuse me for my english.
thank you
i still dont know what bankroll is good enough for this system? ???
Quote from: kiamessi on May 16, 06:01 AM 2011
I still don't know what bankroll is good enough for this system? ???
It all says in the excel......but so far playing it 3 sessions airball
3 very easy wins......tested over 5000 past numbers....largest drawdown 219 chips/cause of several zeros/but quickly recovered after several numbers from mid column.
i realise that, the mid.column will disappear for a period of time, thats the time we have the downturn then the mid.column appears again for several times in a row, we will recover quickly
Quote from: kiamessi on May 16, 09:19 AM 2011
I realise that, the mid.column will disappear for a period of time, that's the time we have the downturn then the mid.column appears again for several times in a row, we will recover quickly
Exactly so my friend......the longest downturn mid column in more then 5000 spins was 14,but it recovered quickly after it began to hit.
what casino did you play?
hi FLAT do you play for a certain time period or do you have a set amount to win or do you play continuously
tom
It would be a good idea to set an amount of money we want to get and then stop otherwise the period of mid.column missing will get us into trouble
The longer you play with this one,the more
you win.Presently am only playing Airball 3-4 hours every
morning and it is performing really well.Even with mid.column
longer misses there isn't large drawdown that couldn't be quickly recoup
You should test it guys and see what am I about here.I can't really
push the money in your pockets,can I,but you must find out for yourselves
if it works or not.Why should you believe me.
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on May 16, 10:55 AM 2011
The longer you play with this one,the more
you win.Presently am only playing Airball 3-4 hours every
morning and it is performing really well.Even with mid.column
longer misses there isn't large drawdown that couldn't be quickly recoup
You should test it guys and see what am I about here.I can't really
push the money in your pockets,can I,but you must find out for yourselves
if it works or not.Why should you believe me.
how much bank roll u need for this?
Quote from: warrior on May 16, 11:13 AM 2011
how much bankroll you need for this?
As much as you can afford...LOL..
But seriously no any strict rules here....you will find
out as soon as you start testing this.
as per doctor flatinos orders i will due my due diligence tomorrow at a big casino---thanks a bunch sir i like the smell of this one
Quote from: Tomla021 on May 16, 11:34 AM 2011
As per doctor flatinos orders I will due my due diligence tomorrow at a big casino---thanks a bunch sir I like the smell of this one
[/quoteGood luck.....and practice it some more before
you start playing........it's not so easy but once you get in the 5th.gear
it goes very smooth.Just a suggestion how the spreadsheet should be like,unless
you have some more functional.
BET A + -- overall stakings BET B + -- over. stak.
24 3 6 3..next
13 3 6+ 18 24- 5
30 6 0- 3..next bet 15 9- 4
15 18 18- 5 12 3+ 3
4 15 3- 4 18 15- 5
2 12 9+ 3 15 0-..restart 1
22 6 6- 3 3 3+
9 9 3+ 2 6 3- 3
20 6 9+ 9 6+..restart 1
Hi to all. I am watching the forum for a long time but this is my first post. This system seems very interesting. I have a question. We start at 1 unit? on both A and B?Also Flat said that we reduce 1 unit on a win and increase 2 units on a loss. When we have 1 unit and need decreasing we will put 1 unit again in the next spin or 0 units?
Sory for my English
Nikos
when back to one you stay at one i believe....mr f is from across the pond and probably asleep at the moment
Quote from: predator on May 16, 05:41 PM 2011
Hi to all. I am watching the forum for a long time but this is my first post. This system seems very interesting. I have a question. We start at 1 unit? on both A and B?Also Flat said that we reduce 1 unit on a win and increase 2 units on a loss. When we have 1 unit and need decreasing we will put 1 unit again in the next spin or 0 units?
Sory for my English
Nikos
Welcome :)
1 unit.
Jon
ok...since i do not understand the scoring system in the excell, i raise and lower only on one side of the zigzag, and raise 4 units on same side if a zero comes out....
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Results:
RNG and real money
Highest bet: 138 units total
Lowest point: 520 units
Profit +102u
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vundarosa
Quote from: predator on May 16, 05:41 PM 2011
Hi to all. I am watching the forum for a long time but this is my first post. This system seems very interesting. I have a question. We start at 1 unit? on both A and B?Also Flat said that we reduce 1 unit on a win and increase 2 units on a loss. When we have 1 unit and need decreasing we will put 1 unit again in the next spin or 0 units?
Sory for my English
Nikos
Welcome to the forum, predator.
Your written English is fine. Well done! :thumbsup:
:love:
looks like i am buying an even better fridge this time.
maybe i will return the brand new one i got recently and bet that money to buy a much better "non-chinese" one.
;-)
FLATino, this one is great!!
Zeros will sink it?
here goes test 1
you need a lithuanian refrigerator, they don't break down as much but they are built to hold vodka,, i tested this american double zero and so far soooooooo good,,,, with drawdowns but , hey life isn't perfect....... will test and try to play
Hello everyone. I'm also watching this forum for some time and this is my first post only because I thought that I need to say BIG thanks to FLAT, of all hundreds systems that i have tryed for 2 months from all forums and internet this is the BEST.
And also, the biggest drown for me was over 500 units, but i got back quickly, so my BR is 1000 units, but better I think is 2000.
And a question. . . after more spins of "-" when i get back to +0 what should I better do, restart or continue? I understand that continuing means big profit, but isn't it more risk?!
Gregor...Welcome to our community!
Quote from: Gregor on May 17, 02:38 AM 2011
Hello everyone. I'm also watching this forum for some time and this is my first post only because I thought that I need to say BIG thanks to FLAT, of all hundreds systems that I have tryed for 2 months from all forums and internet this is the BEST.
And also, the biggest drown for me was over 500 units, but I got back quickly, so my BR is 1000 units, but better I think is 2000.
And a question. . . after more spins of "-" when I get back to +0 what should I better do, restart or continue? I understand that continuing means big profit, but isn't it more risk?!
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"And also, the biggest drown for me was over 500 units, but I got back quickly, so my BR is 1000 units, but better I think is 2000. "
That's exactly what i was thinking....BR 2000 maybe even 3000....but def at least 2000....
vundarosa
Quote from: Tomla021 on May 16, 06:03 PM 2011
When back to one you stay at one I believe....mr f is from across the pond and probably asleep at the moment
--Yes when on 1 un.stay there as long as it wins...after lose go to 3 un.
Quote from: Gregor on May 17, 02:38 AM 2011
Hello everyone. I'm also watching this forum for some time and this is my first post only because I thought that I need to say BIG thanks to FLAT, of all hundreds systems that I have tryed for 2 months from all forums and internet this is the BEST.
And also, the biggest drown for me was over 500 units, but I got back quickly, so my BR is 1000 units, but better I think is 2000.
And a question. . . after more spins of "-" when I get back to +0 what should I better do, restart or continue? I understand that continuing means big profit, but isn't it more risk?!
Always restart from 1 unit on both bets after ANY win......as it wins about 1,7 chips for each spin......While you zig-zaging for about 10 spins at the end you will be in plus about 15 un.
Quote from: albertojonas on May 16, 11:41 PM 2011
:love:
looks like I am buying an even better fridge this time.
maybe I will return the brand new one I got recently and bet that money to buy a much better "non-chinese" one.
;-)
F_LAT_INO, this one is great!!
Zeros will sink it?
here goes test 1
Alberto mate,
No zero can outspin mid.column......just returned from my morning session/longer today/
210 spins.....biggest drowndown 294.......without a column 12 spins and wit 1 zero in those 12 spins......then it started 5,8,32,5,35.....and I recovered and was in plus.....at the end of
210 spins 324 un.+................you might even by some vodka with the fridge.
t h a n k you, F L A T I N O !!!
what can i say but :thumbsup:
You outdid yourself with this one Flat, nice job
Thank you vey much :-*
And for those that don't have the 1000 BR I did a little thinking...
I suppose we can play it just with colums, it should work too ( so far for me it worked nice). Bet 1 unit on column "1" and "3" and 2 units on column "2". 2 units up on a lose, 1 down on a win, reset when in profit. Whad do you think Flat?will it also work?
We have a gold mine here people, use it
Thanks again Flat ;)
Quote from: soggett on May 17, 03:05 PM 2011
What can I say but :thumbsup:
You outdid yourself with this one Flat, nice job
Thank you vey much :-*
And for those that don't have the 1000 BR I did a little thinking...
I suppose we can play it just with columns, it should work too ( so far for me it worked nice). Bet 1 unit on column "1" and "3" and 2 units on column "2". 2 units up on a lose, 1 down on a win, reset when in profit. Whad do you think Flat?will it also work?
We have a gold mine here people, use it
Thanks again Flat ;)
I doubt it as have really started this with such idea................but
when one of the 1/3 columns goes to sleep for 12-15 spins then column 2 should be hitting every 2nd.spin to overcome this sleep......but thisway these quads are kind of zig-zaging evenly so far in my real playings.
Quote from: kiamessi on May 15, 11:47 AM 2011
This system means we choose one of the zig zag and follow them until we reach out need? Wat is the bankroll needed for this system?
ITS NOT PLAYED LIKE THAT......thats why I removed your other post
with your remarks...therefore learn its all here to read then report back your results with
proper playing it.
Thanks for sharing this system Flat Ino.
I have given it some test sessions, but the last one got me a bit confused.
I had repeating third collumn showing with a few zeros in between. This resulted in 1 units on B stick and win, but at the same time A was building up towards over 20 units.
When A hitted, it didnt last long and it quickly switched back to B. So recovering was almost impossible.
I think 500BR is more than enough, but I have lost all that BR in my last session.
If the outcomes zigzag in between A and B, the results are indeed profitable.
But if for example a first or third collumn repeats too much the other collumn will add up, making a recovery only possible if it switches back to the added up section and stays there to recover.
best regards,
Bob
Quote from: foreverBOB on May 17, 03:57 PM 2011
Thanks for sharing this system Flat Ino.
I have given it some test sessions, but the last one got me a bit confused.
I had repeating third column showing with a few zeros in between. This resulted in 1 units on B stick and win, but at the same time A was building up towards over 20 units.
When A hitted, it didn't last long and it quickly switched back to B. So recovering was almost impossible.
I think 500BR is more than enough, but I have lost all that BR in my last session.
If the outcomes zigzag in between A and B, the results are indeed profitable.
But if for example a first or third column repeats too much the other column will add up, making a recovery only possible if it switches back to the added up section and stays there to recover.
best regards,
Bob
Could you describe your play pls......as think you might be doing something wrong here since you mentioning 3th.column...as its not whole part of the B bet,only 3/6--15/18--27/30......these 3 splits are part of column 3 under bet B.
Yes, Ino,
Thats exactly what I mean. I am talking about third collumn, which is a part of B.
What do we do if collumn 1 or 3 repeats itself consequtively so many times that the other betseclection A or B adds up in progression?
Is there a stoplimit?
I have studied dozens and collumns for a long while and I actualy gave up on that, but as we all know, it is commun that one specific collumn hits consequtively.
This system is based upon the assumption that all collumns will likely hit equaly after a period of time or lets say "session time".
Right?
I experienced the same thing this afternoon during testing. My 3rd column was hot, so the entire A bet was up over 20 units while B bet stayed at 1 unit. I was down about 800 units, never recovering suitably after over 100 spins.
Quote from: Colbster on May 17, 06:45 PM 2011
I experienced the same thing this afternoon during testing. My 3rd column was hot, so the entire A bet was up over 20 units while B bet stayed at 1 unit. I was down about 800 units, never recovering suitably after over 100 spins.
Your 3rd column can be hot, but you have 6 numbers of bet A and 6 numbers of bet B in 3rd column, so why that would be a problem? Are you saying that in 3rd column were hitted just numbers from 1 bet (lets say from bet A)?
Quote from: Colbster on May 17, 06:45 PM 2011
I experienced the same thing this afternoon during testing. My 3rd column was hot, so the entire A bet was up over 20 units while B bet stayed at 1 unit. I was down about 800 units, never recovering suitably after over 100 spins.
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i had the same hapen during testing...i decided then to start raising only one side of the zigzag and its been doing quite well this way as the drawdown is less this way...when middle colum hits i get to profit easier
vundarosa
Ok,
I am sorry, I was playing wrong betsections.
It is all clear now and I will further test it.
Just to clear things up on 3th collumn:
3/6, 21/24, 33/36 belong to B.
best regards,
Bob
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on May 17, 03:29 PM 2011
ITS NOT PLAYED LIKE THAT......that's why I removed your other post
with your remarks...therefore learn its all here to read then report back your results with
proper playing it.
i didn't play like this, that was only my first thought but then I fully understood that and played as you showed.
Why got that result was that one side bet was only 1 unit but the other one was up to more than 20 and the ball kept hitting on the lower one and several zeros came up as well, it only hit couple of times on the higher bets but not too often, that's why I lost
Sorry, Flat!
I mis-read your excel spreadsheet instructions -- totally my fault! This looks great!
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on May 17, 03:18 PM 2011
I doubt it as have really started this with such idea................but
when one of the 1/3 columns goes to sleep for 12-15 spins then column 2 should be hitting every 2nd.spin to overcome this sleep......but thisway these quads are kind of zig-zaging evenly so far in my real playings.
Yes, I see what you mean, thanks
could you explain a little more about the bet selection, i to have witnessed one hot column which can make the betting a little scary on the cold column, and that seems to be when the dreaded zero always shows up i like this method maybe a little tweak could make it even better
sorry the above question was for vunderosa
Quote from: kiamessi on May 17, 09:37 PM 2011
i didn't play like this, that was only my first thought but then I fully understood that and played as you showed.
Why got that result was that one side bet was only 1 unit but the other one was up to more than 20 and the ball kept hitting on the lower one and several zeros came up as well, it only hit couple of times on the higher bets but not too often, that's why I lost
Kiamessi my friend,
You stated in your post that you have lost 2000 BR,which is theoreticaly impossible,and that my friend I think that you are doing something wrong........I had a turbulent session on airball this morning/whic I will document it here today/more then 100 spins in minus but at the end of journey it all ended as expected.1000 un.you can't lose playing 8 hours with the worst session imaginable......and if you know the behaviour of roulette law.....it all evens up at the end............and thats the fact.
i played it at a casino yesterday , american double zero....quickly into a hole with 8 zeros and not may mid columns hits..but it pulled back after awhile and was almost even when i had to leave....not sure but im wondering if one extra chip on either a or b (the one not hitting) and one chip on zero's,,, would it help or screw up the whole idea?
Quote from: Tomla021 on May 18, 07:58 AM 2011
I played it at a casino yesterday , american double zero....quickly into a hole with 8 zeros and not may mid columns hits..but it pulled back after awhile and was almost even when I had to leave....not sure but I'm wondering if one extra chip on either a or b (the one not hitting) and one chip on zero's,,, would it help or screw up the whole idea?
What about if we just "change the sites" if there is 20 or more units on a corner?
Ex:
bet A - 20u on corner
bet B - 3u on corner
we loss and
from here on we "change sites" and next bet:
bet A - 2u on corner
bet B - 22u on corner
and we hope that "hot" site will bring us in plus. Just a thought.
that would probably be when the side starts to hit and you would be kicking yourself all day long
Before trying it with real money,
I am having trouble defining the right numbers for each snake,
in the excel the snakes do not do "zig-zag", but in an earlier reply they do.
FLAT which snakes are the right ones?
Quote from: Tomla021 on May 18, 07:58 AM 2011
I played it at a casino yesterday , american double zero....quickly into a hole with 8 zeros and not may mid columns hits..but it pulled back after awhile and was almost even when I had to leave....not sure but I'm wondering if one extra chip on either a or b (the one not hitting) and one chip on zero's,,, would it help or screw up the whole idea?
00 zero?????thats dangerous my friend for any method or play.
Quote from: wizzard.tim on May 18, 08:25 AM 2011
Before trying it with real money,
I am having trouble defining the right numbers for each snake,
in the excel the snakes do not do "zig-zag", but in an earlier reply they do.
FLAT which snakes are the right ones?
Thanks for reminding me.......as have corrected my typo error but didn't
correct it in excel.Here it is;
BET A BET B
1 2 2 3
4 5 5 6
9 8 8 7
12 11 11 10
13 14 14 15
16 17 17 18
21 20 20 19
24 23 23 22
25 26 26 27
28 29 29 30
33 32 32 31
36 35 35 34
so these above are correct snakes
danger is danger mr flatino , the ball could also pop of the wheel and hit you in the eye----with a little more confidence i have the option of playing this in the high roller casino w bigger chips and one terrible zero so we amerikanski can make believe like we are euro people
Quote from: Tomla021 on May 18, 09:57 AM 2011
Danger is danger mr F_LAT_INO , the ball could also pop of the wheel and hit you in the eye----with a little more confidence I have the option of playing this in the high roller casino w bigger chips and one terrible zero so we amerikanski can make believe like we are euro people
Good unswer mate,
But since never play nor even know the layouts od your wheel....strongly believe that there are small chance beating that wheel............as have seen in Germany such a wheel with 00 zero,but only 24 numbers involved....and also seen ppl.regulary losing on it......thats why I wonder why ppl.are playing such wheels.You should find EU wheel and play it.
i will find that wheel , thanks,,,,,thanks for all of your clever systems also.......
Quote from: F_LAT_INO link=topic=5247. msg52206#msg52206 date=1305726936
Thanks for reminding me. . . . . . . as have corrected my typo error but didn't
correct it in excel. Here it is;
BET A BET B
1 2 2 3
4 5 5 6
9 8 8 7
12 11 11 10
13 14 14 15
16 17 17 18
21 20 20 19
24 23 23 22
25 26 26 27
28 29 29 30
33 32 32 31
36 35 35 34
so these above are correct snakes
Thank you FLAT
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To all guys who play online live roulette (f. i. SmartLive / DublinBet), how do you make it placing all these bets in time less than 1 minute?? I mean it becomes difficult when the snakes grow bigger & bigger. .
Also, another question. What BR do you recommend for start? SmartLive auto roulette with low bets, allows me to place a bet of 0. 25â,¬. DublinBet with 0. 50â,¬, and another disadvantage is their low maximum limit. . . they wont allow a snake grow more than some limit. .
Thank u all
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Here is my horror session of this morning play;
B-30
35
20
A-36
5............HERE i was 24 chips up...then it started drawdown
B-30
B-27
B-30
A-13
A-1
A-1
5
0
A-13
0
A-21
32
35
A-16
20
A-13
B-6
23
A-9
B-15
2
8
A-28
B-30
B-6
A-25
A-12
5
8
A-13
B-30
A-33
26
8
A-21
B-31
29
29
A-28
B-10
A-21
A-13
B-6
B-18
A-33
B-31
20
B-18
A-21
B-7
B-7
26
B-15
26
0
B-18
A-28
B-3
B-30
B-27
29
B-3
B-34
A-1
A-33
32
5
B-31
A-16
20
A--1
B-19
B-15
B-7
B-3
20
B-31
B-10
5
B-30
26
B-15
A-33
A-1
A-21
29
B-6
B-31
B-19.......HERE THE LARGEST BET ON A 32 CHIPS...and the largest downdrawn 1188 CHIPS
AND NOW IT STARTED GOING UPWARDS IN 13 SPINS IT RECOVERED.
8
14
14
20
23
11
8
A-24
A-36
29
32
35
35
29......AND HERE I FINALLY COME TO.....A=186 min.------B=222 plus=36+24+infirst 5 spins.
And after such horible session I end the game......and if didn't happen as did I would probably still be there to find out if it possibly can hit 2000 chips minus......don't think so.
BTW-chip in my country on airball is about 14 cents.This I call law of roulette happenings.
How could it be 7 numbers came up consecutively and then 5 more numbers in mid.column which is you were lucky enough to have that I would say. what if you don't have that consecutive numbers, what would you do?
Quote from: kiamessi on May 18, 12:09 PM 2011
How could it be 7 numbers came up consecutively and then 5 more numbers in mid.column which is you were lucky enough to have that I would say. what if you don't have that consecutive numbers, what would you do?
My dear fellow,
Its same as if you have asked me how come that only 28 bets of A compering to 52 bets B in 80 spins due to it happening....it is the same thing....and never question my sincerity again and ask me such suspicious questions/as if you were suggesting that I have fabricated it/as I wouldn't post this here openly for all to see.Ihave seen also in a real play splits 1/4-7/10-15/18-21/24-26/29-32/35/Which is a bet A from the CPWB,hitting 14 times/which is same 12 number bet/ not mentioning other queer thing that happen in roulette.
Dear friends,
I think after seeing 1188 downdrawns in my today play,am afraid that am giving up on this bet
and will be concetrating on PCWB last version with winning tweak which is really doing well
in so far testings/prior to zig-zag snake was regulary winning on that version/from our member
Gordonline,therefore suggest to you all to come and help us overthere.Thank you.
Dear players,
How about raising the winning section by 1 unit, and leaving the loosing section untouched?
And offcourse, whenever you are in a plus, reset and start back from the beginning?
I like this zigzag double bit concept a lot :love:
Quote from: Bassie the Clown on May 21, 11:22 AM 2011
Dear players,
How about raising the winning section by 1 unit, and leaving the losing section untouched?
And offcourse, whenever you are in a plus, reset and start back from the beginning?
I like this zigzag double bit concept a lot :love:
Bassie mate,
Could you show us example of such play,for about 20 spins let say,
as really I cant grasp it really.
But offcourse, friend F-LAT-INO,
Here is an example:
The betsession starts with 1 unit on the A and B Bet. Total bet on table = 12 units
Number spoon:
12 -->(belongs to A) profit -3 units. All squares from A are raised with 1 unit. total table bet now 18 units
17 -->(belongs to A) DOUBLE BITE, profit 9 units. We are in the plus (+6 units), so we restart.
Spoon Nr.
Stake 12 units
10 -3 units, raise B bets with 1 unit
Stake 18 units
6 0 units, raise B bets with 1 unit
Stake 24 units
21 -15 units, raise A bets with 1 unit
Stake 30 units
2 +15 units, double bite, leave bets as they were
Stake 30 units
31 -3 units, raise B bets with 1 unit
Stake 36 units
1 -18 units, raise A bets with 1 unit
Stake 42 units
5 +21 units, double bite, leave bets as they wre
Stake 42 units
4 -15 units, raise A bets with 1 unit
Stake 48 units
23 +24 units, we have a plus again, reset/restart
The only advantage of this kind of let it ride betting is that the sleepersection won't harm us.
Please feel free to comment. This is not my favourite progression, but I like it more than raising on sections that still have to show up.
I won't give up on this beautiful double bite concept. Allthough it can really tank in its original concept, at the end when everything balances out, this has to be a longterm winner.
Best of Lucks,
Bassie
Last time when i played this i had 10 times in a row hitting A snake, then once B snake and once both, and then 8 times in row A snake. BV real.
Quote from: Gregor on May 21, 03:09 PM 2011
Last time when I played this I had 10 times in a row hitting A snake, then once B snake and once both, and then 8 times in row A snake. BV real.
Yes it does trends,once I had 23 wins in the row....but the problem is large drowndowns once it goes bad.
Quote from: Bassie the Clown on May 21, 01:12 PM 2011
But offcourse, friend F-LAT-INO,
Here is an example:
The betsession starts with 1 unit on the A and B Bet. Total bet on table = 12 units
Number spoon:
12 -->(belongs to A) profit -3 units. All squares from A are raised with 1 unit. total table bet now 18 units
17 -->(belongs to A) DOUBLE BITE, profit 9 units. We are in the plus (+6 units), so we restart.
Spoon Nr.
Stake 12 units
10 -3 units, raise B bets with 1 unit
Stake 18 units
6 0 units, raise B bets with 1 unit
Stake 24 units
21 -15 units, raise A bets with 1 unit
Stake 30 units
2 +15 units, double bite, leave bets as they were
Stake 30 units
31 -3 units, raise B bets with 1 unit
Stake 36 units
1 -18 units, raise A bets with 1 unit
Stake 42 units
5 +21 units, double bite, leave bets as they wre
Stake 42 units
4 -15 units, raise A bets with 1 unit
Stake 48 units
23 +24 units, we have a plus again, reset/restart
The only advantage of this kind of let it ride betting is that the sleepersection won't harm us.
Please feel free to comment. This is not my favourite progression, but I like it more than raising on sections that still have to show up.
I won't give up on this beautiful double bite concept. Allthough it can really tank in its original concept, at the end when everything balances out, this has to be a longterm winner.
Best of Lucks,
Bassie
I see what you mean here/I deleted my wrong unswer as mixed with other bet/----will do some deep look in it as time alows ne...thanks
Hi there F_LAT_INO,
After a good night sleep I came up with this adaption, making a lovely double-, triple-, or even quattro bite possible. I'll try to explain it by this example.
Nr.
12 --> Start betting all the quads in dozen 1, except the quads covering 12.
In this case 1,2,4,5 and 2,3,5,6 and 4,5,7,8 and 5,6,8,9 and 7,8,10,11. All these quads must be covered with 1 unit
Next nr. 17. This number is in the middle collumn. If a number shows up from the middle collumn, we do nothing but adding 1 unit to each of our previous played quads.
Next nr. 28. We add a unit to all the played quads from dozen 1, and we are betting now also all the quads in dozen 3, except the quads that are covering nr. 28
Next nr. 20. This is a middle collumn number, so we are only raising our previous played quads by 1 unit.
Nr. 10 ----> We win. We lower the quad covering nr. 10 by 9 units. Since there were 4 units placed on this quad, this quad is no longer played on. Offcourse we raise all the other played quads by 1 unit.
Nr. 6 --> A double hit, We lower the quads covering nr. 6 by 9 units, the other played quads are raised with 1 unit
Do you get the idea? To make sure the green devil, known as Zero, does not come stealing our winnings, I would play it constantly with a small bet so that the stakes are covered.
Best of luck
Bassie
QuoteDear players,
How about raising the winning section by 1 unit, and leaving the losing section untouched?
And offcourse, whenever you are in a plus, reset and start back from the beginning?
I like this zigzag double bit concept a lot :love:
For now it's working for me, raised about 500 units in BV real. I haven't seen a "horror" session, even tryed to make it on paper. . . we can lose it only if midle column won't be hitting any more Ever :o And btw, the required bankroll is the same.
i was thinking of insuring those goblins at some higher level, not at the beginning?
Quote from: Tomla021 link=topic=5247. msg52897#msg52897 date=1306079505
I was thinking of insuring those goblins at some higher level, not at the beginning?
Hi tom,
So far I've tested always betting the zero too. The results are very good. The winnings are big when a number shows up that was covered by 3 or 4 quads. In my opinion these winnings can pay for the insurance.
Lots of Luck
Bassie
Quote from: Bassie the Clown link=topic=5247. msg52876#msg52876 date=1306060047
Hi there F_LAT_INO,
After a good night sleep I came up with this adaption, making a lovely double-, triple-, or even quattro bite possible. I'll try to explain it by this example.
Nr.
12 --> Start betting all the quads in dozen 1, except the quads covering 12.
In this case 1,2,4,5 and 2,3,5,6 and 4,5,7,8 and 5,6,8,9 and 7,8,10,11. All these quads must be covered with 1 unit
Next nr. 17. This number is in the middle column. If a number shows up from the middle column, we do nothing but adding 1 unit to each of our previous played quads.
Next nr. 28. We add a unit to all the played quads from dozen 1, and we are betting now also all the quads in dozen 3, except the quads that are covering nr. 28
Next nr. 20. This is a middle column number, so we are only raising our previous played quads by 1 unit.
Nr. 10 ----> We win. We lower the quad covering nr. 10 by 9 units. Since there were 4 units placed on this quad, this quad is no longer played on. Offcourse we raise all the other played quads by 1 unit.
Nr. 6 --> A double hit, We lower the quads covering nr. 6 by 9 units, the other played quads are raised with 1 unit
Do you get the idea? To make sure the green devil, known as Zero, does not come stealing our winnings, I would play it constantly with a small bet so that the stakes are covered.
Best of luck
Bassie
I don't get it. . . can You explain it in more details. Are we still playing Snakes or is this a new system?!
Quote from: Bassie the Clown on May 22, 06:27 AM 2011
Hi there F_LAT_INO,
After a good night sleep I came up with this adaption, making a lovely double-, triple-, or even quattro bite possible. I'll try to explain it by this example.
Nr.
12 --> Start betting all the quads in dozen 1, except the quads covering 12.
In this case 1,2,4,5 and 2,3,5,6 and 4,5,7,8 and 5,6,8,9 and 7,8,10,11. All these quads must be covered with 1 unit
Next nr. 17. This number is in the middle column. If a number shows up from the middle column, we do nothing but adding 1 unit to each of our previous played quads.
Next nr. 28. We add a unit to all the played quads from dozen 1, and we are betting now also all the quads in dozen 3, except the quads that are covering nr. 28
Next nr. 20. This is a middle column number, so we are only raising our previous played quads by 1 unit.
Nr. 10 ----> We win. We lower the quad covering nr. 10 by 9 units. Since there were 4 units placed on this quad, this quad is no longer played on. Offcourse we raise all the other played quads by 1 unit.
Nr. 6 --> A double hit, We lower the quads covering nr. 6 by 9 units, the other played quads are raised with 1 unit
Do you get the idea? To make sure the green devil, known as Zero, does not come stealing our winnings, I would play it constantly with a small bet so that the stakes are covered.
Best of luck
Bassie
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Do you reset after a new high?! I'm testing with reset in case bet a sleeper that just continues to eat chips...
vundarosa
Friends as have previously pointed out I have give up
on this bet and am concetrated on--Sleeping and waking---bet
with new tweak involved......and would suggest that you go
there and see how it works.See you there.
@Bassie the Clown
Just played in RNG fun mode:
Highest Bet: 35units on 3 quads (plus others smaller chips on other quads)
Highest drawdown: 1904 units
Highest win: 1008 units
A dozen had gone cold for 20 spins hence the drawdown...
Managed to recover when middle raw in slepping dozen hit 3 consecutive times and other numbers with high chips hit as well.
vundarosa
Hi fellow players,
There seems to be a mix up about how to play. Let me try to explain how it works.
For example:
Nr. 36 --> bet all quads in the 3rd dozen, except quad 32,33,35,36.
Nr. 36---> add one unit to all the quads in 3rd dozen, except quad 32,33,35,36
16 ---> add one unit to all quads in 3rd dozen, except quad 32,33,35,36 and start also betting all quads in 2nd dozen, except quads 13,14,16,17 and 16,17,19,20. As you can see the last hit number in this dozen is not covered by a quad.
Nr. 27 We remove the winning quads with 9 units, in this case quad 26,27,29,30. We place an extra chip on the other quads.
Nr. 36 We add a unit on the played quads, and we also start betting on quad 26,27,29,30 with one unit. In other words, The last hit number in a dozen may not be covered by any quad, unless ofcourse we've removed 9 units from it and there are still units left.
Say for example nr 5 shows up. This dozen is not yet covered by any quads. Since 5 belongs to the middle collumn, we don't start betting quads in dozen 1, but offcourse we add a unit to all the previous played quads.
I would recommend a restart/reset if we gain a plus.
Best of Lucks,
Bassie
Basiccaly what we're doing is keep adding a chip on a quad untill the number hits.
Quote from: Bassie the Clown on May 26, 06:55 AM 2011
Nr. 27 We remove the winning quads with 9 units, in this case quad 26,27,29,30. We place an extra chip on the other quads.
I dont understand why there would be 9 units? ???
Quote from: Bassie the Clown on May 26, 06:55 AM 2011
Hi fellow players,
There seems to be a mix up about how to play. Let me try to explain how it works.
For example:
Nr. 36 --> bet all quads in the 3rd dozen, except quad 32,33,35,36.
Nr. 36---> add one unit to all the quads in 3rd dozen, except quad 32,33,35,36
16 ---> add one unit to all quads in 3rd dozen, except quad 32,33,35,36 and start also betting all quads in 2nd dozen, except quads 13,14,16,17 and 16,17,19,20. As you can see the last hit number in this dozen is not covered by a quad.
Nr. 27 We remove the winning quads with 9 units, in this case quad 26,27,29,30. We place an extra chip on the other quads.
Nr. 36 We add a unit on the played quads, and we also start betting on quad 26,27,29,30 with one unit. In other words, The last hit number in a dozen may not be covered by any quad, unless ofcourse we've removed 9 units from it and there are still units left.
Say for example nr 5 shows up. This dozen is not yet covered by any quads. Since 5 belongs to the middle column, we don't start betting quads in dozen 1, but offcourse we add a unit to all the previous played quads.
I would recommend a restart/reset if we gain a plus.
Best of Lucks,
Bassie
Basiccaly what we're doing is keep adding a chip on a quad until the number hits.
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Bassie,
the results I posted were of playing exactly this way
vundarosa