Very simple coin toss observation derived method.
First introduced to me by ProofReaders (That system maker machine) and abandoned.
I Crossed it with other experiments and tweaked it to this...
The Complete System i use is in fact a Suite of Systems
This is mod1:
take an even chance
RB / HL / OE
ANY
you observe the sequence of the outcomes then
wait for two repeats and bet the opposite 1 unit
ie.
R
R
bet Black
If win wait for the colour to change again and restart
ie.
R
R
B-Won
B
B-No Bet wait for it to change Colour
B
R-It Changed, now you can restart
B
R
B
B
bet Red
R-WIn
R
B
B
bet Red
B-LOST Now if Lost: wait for it to change again before next bet
B
B
R
B
B
here bet Red add +1unit to previous loss bet -Bet 2 units
-1 on a win +1 on a loss fashion
R-win
etc
hope you got it
Let's see... :embarrassed:
MOD 2
this mod2 is to be played either individually or in parallel with mod1
It follows the same concept but bets after a single for repeat (everyone knows this bet)
The smart twist is that you wait for a change to bet again either win or loss.
example attached.
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Thanks to GordonLine who sent me a gorgeous file with 3300 Real Spins from several Sessions.
this is very similar to the way i play baccarat
thanks
MOD 3
it is exacly the same as mod1 but we now play against the 4th repeater...
I am currently playing the 3 mods at same time with separate banks
i will try to glue them all and see what happens.
;)
Anyone helps? :-[
Hope this helps
Concerning Bankroll I have not established a stoploss yet as I intend to test this extensively.
For all that matters i am playing this live with a 100 units Bankroll. I never needed half of it yet. but no one knows.
Hope to get your opinions on this.
Vundarosa thx for your testing
GLC thx for your advice
::)
i made te 11111 post on 333 threads on full systems.
;D
Quote from: albertojonas on May 27, 09:12 PM 2011
I made te 11111 post on 333 threads on full systems.
;D
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it might be a good omen to this system ;D
vundarosa
I got this system around 4 years ago. I forget the name. They called it ... Turbo.
2 of an ECs R/B, L/H, O/E are trigger to bet. Frst bet double bet eg. if minimum @5 bet $10 next bet the same $5. If lost wait for next double as a trigger. The turbo is chop! 2 chops bet against. Eg. BR bet R. Sometimes it works but it is a grinder.
Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on May 27, 10:49 PM 2011
I got this system around 4 years ago. I forget the name. They called it ... Turbo.
2 of an ECs R/B, L/H, O/E are trigger to bet. Frst bet double bet e.g.. if minimum @5 bet $10 next bet the same $5. If lost wait for next double as a trigger. The turbo is chop! 2 chops bet against. e.g.. BR bet R. Sometimes it works but it is a grinder.
Hermes
this one is a bit different isn't it?
And if you try it with Fibonacci (winkel's way) progression it works even better.
thanks Hermes - long time no see!
:-*
Quote from: albertojonas on May 27, 10:51 PM 2011
this one is a bit different isn't it?
And if you try it with Fibonacci (winkel's way) progression it works even better.
thanks Hermes - long time no see!
:-*
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Follow the progression at each bet and reset when at level or at new high
Advice 500u BR and not really needed to stop at +10...
vundarosa
Albertojonas,
The strategy you posted a few days ago with the six lines, can you please direct me to where it is posted ,as I cant seem to locate it As I need to know what progression to use
Many thanks again and Iwill give this coin toss a run for its money.
Cheers Pedro
Quote from: vundarosa on May 28, 01:12 AM 2011
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Follow the progression at each bet and reset when at level or at new high
Advice 500u BR and not really needed to stop at +10...
vundarosa
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This seems to be working real good.....its a bit slow sometimes, but a profit maker...
vundarosa
I have to thank many persons in this forum:
Victor, Bayes, Katilla, Winkel, Hermes, Scooby, Ego, XXVV, Vundarosa, Ken, Kingspin, Proofreaders, iggiv, F_LAT_INO, twisterUK, ChrisBis,...
But there is someone who has a place in my heart for is polite ways. He is off no comparison, he is never tired, he never forgets one, he is always there, he helps everyone and he his a galaxy of dedication to roulette.
He helps me more than anyone.
This guy knows who he is. And for all that matters I think he made it. A consistent profit maker.
I dedicate this one to YOU!
Dear George C.This one is called George C(oins)
play for chops
single and double chop only. If lost wait for color change then play again
play 5 times flat bet. 1unit
reset whenever in profit.
if not in profit, after 5bets increase your bet +1 unit for more five games
once in profit reset
aim for +10units
Bankroll 100u
that is all!
;)
thanks George
Example
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26
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30 | Color
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Black
Black
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Black
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Red
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Black
Black
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Red
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Black
Black
Black
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Red
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Red
Red
Red
Red
Red
Red
Red
Red
Black
Black
Red
Black
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Red
Black
Black
Black
Black
Black
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Red
Black
Red
Red
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Red
Black
Red
Red
Black
Black
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2 | Bankroll
-1
-2
-1
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1
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-1
-1
-1
-1
-5
-9
-5
-10
-10
-10
-16
-10
-4
2
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now with brain power all ec's can be played at same time.
Cheers
Alberto,
The system is solid and safe, but I still think the +10 is too optimistic unless one is willing to play for long hours...
gr8 one thou!
have u given up on the fibo progression?, meaning, you flat bet for 4 losses then start fibo till in profit then reset?!
vundarosa
I'll try it.
Quote from: vundarosa on May 30, 03:01 AM 2011
Alberto,
The system is solid and safe, but I still think the +10 is too optimistic unless one is willing to play for long hours...
gr8 one thou!
have you given up on the fibo progression?, meaning, you flat bet for 4 losses then start fibo till in profit then reset?!
vundarosa
I agree. aim for +5
Like somebody special said:
When playing with 10$ chips, the interest rises ;-)
[reveal]Tested 2 ECs (attached)
HL & RB
+55units (combined)
will update Odd Even soon...
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the series complete...
test for odd/even
(Hard One)
i chose the worst scenario between sessions.
updated results:
total +73u
0,23 units per spin
Not Bad
Still some improvements to make but it feels steady for now.
:embarrassed:
Al,
Are we still using a 100 unit bank?
Is there a maximum size bet or does the bank determine that?
If we use 100 units with a win target of 5 we have to win 21 times for every loss to stay ahead.
It will take quite a bit of testing to determine if this system can do that.
I'm hoping it can.
I'm very busy right now with LIFE! so can't test much, but will donate some time to it when I can. The more tests the quicker we will see how it holds up.
Thanks :thumbsup:
G
On vacation now but I have like 3000 spins tested in a notebook somewhere of something very similar , will post later this week. And agreed George is the best
As with many other systems I tested are average this one falls into the same category.
i am abandoning it. not because it fails big time but because it contributed with so many developments I can not cage in at the moment.
it works but as many underdeveloped principles.
it works like forever if you aim for 1 unit with a bank of 21.
thats average
one could expect to win but not much
tomorrow, its 2:30 here
i will update CoinS into a much more safer one
thx 8)
Bye