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Title: Pseudo System #1
Post by: albertojonas on Jun 15, 03:35 AM 2011
Some Random Systems for the interested player...

System #1

Play any even Chance with the following pace:

SSOSSOS

S=Same
O=Other

The money management, triggers and stacking scheme is up to you.
::)

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Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: Gizmotron on Jun 15, 03:54 AM 2011
Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 15, 03:35 AM 2011
Some Random Systems for the interested player...

System #1

Play any even Chance with the following pace:

SSOSSOS

S=Same
O=Other

The money management, triggers and stacking scheme is up to you.
::)

That is genius. Only a genius could know that.  Same goes for any moron. Just kidding. The trick to randomness is to learn when a method works and when it doesn't and why. The first step is the crash and burn with any method. One of the very best concepts of randomness is duplicating the most rare sequence.
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: albertojonas on Jun 15, 04:02 AM 2011
this is the beginning of an exposure of "pseudo systems".

I didn't get if you were mocking me or not?!?
-moose the mooch!

I evolved from here with apparently nonsense bet selections.
I test my stuff with random.org.

8)
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: albalaha on Jun 15, 04:12 AM 2011
Is it a system or betselection or what?
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: albertojonas on Jun 15, 04:22 AM 2011
Quote from: albalaha on Jun 15, 04:12 AM 2011
Is it a system or betselection or what?
??
it is a simple system. ???
It is a display of a Random bet selection.  ???
just read it and try it if you want Albalaha
>:D
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: Skakus on Jun 15, 04:27 AM 2011
Quote from: Gizmotron on Jun 15, 03:54 AM 2011
The trick to randomness is to learn when a method works and when it doesn't and why.

Hello Gizmotron,

If you could please explain the quoted bit in bold I'm sure everyone will be far better off.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: Halba1 on Jun 15, 04:57 AM 2011
Quote from: Skakus on Jun 15, 04:27 AM 2011
Hello Gizmotron,

If you could please explain the quoted bit in bold I'm sure everyone will be far better off.

Thanks.

i looked at it. I don't get it. e.g. in the R/B, it has you betting Red, but it says negative. why is that.

what trigger are you using
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: Gizmotron on Jun 15, 05:26 AM 2011
QuoteThe trick to randomness is to learn when a method works and when it doesn't and why.

Quote from: Skakus on Jun 15, 04:27 AM 2011
If you could please explain the quoted bit in bold I'm sure everyone will be far better off.

Wow, that's a lot to explain. Randomness exists in three states. It works, it doesn't, and it's in between, kind of chaotic. That's the same for systems and methods too. Everything works in one of these three states. Becoming aware of these states takes work. Try anything from anyone. If you can see these three states then you have it.
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: albertojonas on Jun 15, 05:31 AM 2011
Quote from: Gizmotron on Jun 15, 05:26 AM 2011
Wow, that's a lot to explain. Randomness exists in three states. It works, it doesn't, and it's in between, kind of chaotic. That's the same for systems and methods too. Everything works in one of these three states. Becoming aware of these states takes work. Try anything from anyone. If you can see these three states then you have it.

Basically you have the distribution:

hovering around a "zero" point

then you detect a significant change that leads to

an event getting stronger or weaker

this happens independently from you bet selection.
;-)
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: albertojonas on Jun 15, 05:38 AM 2011
Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 15, 04:57 AM 2011
i looked at it. I don't get it. e.g. in the R/B, it has you betting Red, but it says negative. why is that.

what trigger are you using

Halba1

first color I saw was red
then I made up a sequence to bet on
RRBRRBR

when win I went back.

if I saw black I would bet on
BBRBBRB
....

Howewer, the examples above are not the major point about this.

I pay attention on how the distribution behaves in terms of balance/imbalance.
The point here being made is that there is no future playing with systems and mechanical progressions.

There are many good ways of exploiting even chances. Just started to show something basic.
This is nothing more than Random Vs Random
 ::)

Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: Gizmotron on Jun 15, 05:43 AM 2011
Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 15, 05:31 AM 2011
Basically you have the distribution: hovering around a "zero" point ...then you detect a significant change that leads to an event getting stronger or weaker ... this happens independently from you bet selection.

But your bet selection triggers can lead you into changing conditions. You can effect a change by changing yourself. Being stuck with one set of triggers will lead you to all three conditions. That's why you need to know why changes happen. You need at least two set of triggers and one other trigger for when nothing works.
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: albertojonas on Jun 15, 05:48 AM 2011
Quote from: Gizmotron on Jun 15, 05:43 AM 2011
But your bet selection triggers can lead you into changing conditions. You can effect a change by changing yourself. Being stuck with one set of triggers will lead you to all three conditions. That's why you need to know why changes happen. You need at least two set of triggers and one other trigger for when nothing works.

That it is!
with this simple SSOSSOS one can easily adjust to the strong side of the imbalance. Of course one has to observe/measure it. But random can trick everything, not all the time.

This takes us to pseudo system #2
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: Gizmotron on Jun 15, 05:53 AM 2011
It's simple isn't it. If SSOSSOS does not work then some other pattern would. So seeing conditions is important.
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: albertojonas on Jun 15, 05:59 AM 2011
Quote from: Gizmotron on Jun 15, 05:53 AM 2011
It's simple isn't it. If SSOSSOS does not work then some other pattern would. So seeing conditions is important.

See you get my drift!  ;)
Are you enjoying this?
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: Gizmotron on Jun 15, 06:11 AM 2011
Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 15, 05:59 AM 2011
See you get my drift!  ;)
Are you enjoying this?

Yeah. It's the hardest thing in the world to know. Knowing when to change is not easy. I really enjoy it when I swing into a win streak.
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: Halba1 on Jun 15, 06:14 AM 2011
Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 15, 05:38 AM 2011
Halba1

first color I saw was red
then I made up a sequence to bet on
RRBRRBR

when win I went back.

if I saw black I would bet on
BBRBBRB
....

Howewer, the examples above are not the major point about this.

I pay attention on how the distribution behaves in terms of balance/imbalance.
The point here being made is that there is no future playing with systems and mechanical progressions.

There are many good ways of exploiting even chances. Just started to show something basic.
This is nothing more than Random Vs Random
 ::)



your chart shows you betting on black and black comes in, but it has a minus sign. why is that
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: Halba1 on Jun 15, 06:17 AM 2011
Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 15, 05:38 AM 2011
Halba1

first color I saw was red
then I made up a sequence to bet on
RRBRRBR

when win I went back.

if I saw black I would bet on
BBRBBRB
....

Howewer, the examples above are not the major point about this.

I pay attention on how the distribution behaves in terms of balance/imbalance.
The point here being made is that there is no future playing with systems and mechanical progressions.

There are many good ways of exploiting even chances. Just started to show something basic.
This is nothing more than Random Vs Random
 ::)



I'm starting to get it now. on a win you are going back to the start.

it is very unique...very random!
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: marivo on Jun 15, 06:37 AM 2011
Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 15, 06:17 AM 2011
I'm starting to get it now. on a win you are going back to the start.

it is very unique...very random!

I don't get it.  ???
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: esoito on Jun 15, 06:41 AM 2011
Quote from: marivo on Jun 15, 06:37 AM 2011
I don't get it.  ???

Read again the post above yours.

He simply made up the sequencies and then...

Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: albertojonas on Jun 15, 06:48 AM 2011
Quote from: esoito on Jun 15, 06:41 AM 2011
Read again the post above yours.

He simply made up the sequencies and then...

Not too hard to comprehend, surely?

Sequence was based on the principle

SSOSSOS

could use also SOOSOOS

but more to come in pseudo system #2
;)




Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: marivo on Jun 15, 07:31 AM 2011
When you start you follow the last color, right? When do you restart?
Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: albertojonas on Jun 15, 07:39 AM 2011
Quote from: marivo on Jun 15, 07:31 AM 2011
When you start you follow the last color, right? When do you restart?
when hit. On a Win

Title: Re: Pseudo System #1
Post by: ZeroBlue on Jun 16, 04:11 PM 2011
Quote from: albertojonas link=topic=6002. msg57836#msg57836 date=1308123338
Some Random Systems for the interested player. . .

System #1

Play any even Chance with the following pace:

SSOSSOS

S=Same
O=Other

The money management, triggers and stacking scheme is up to you.
::)

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This is interesting.  Maybe we can do it Steve Morgan style and wait for the very begin of the pattern to repeat before start bets.  In your example, RR or BB.

Not that i play any system i already have a sure advantage over the game.