Hello members, hello Victor.
I have been in forums 3 years now.
Noone has ever found a system/method that wins in the Long Term!
I had lost my faith , I had lost my dreams...
I had based all my future dreams in Roulette income.
I had read and I have made a lot of systems.
1 day I thought about all the things that I had learned in all this 3 years trip of Roulette...
I thought that it is a math based game.
I thought that I should give up the illussions fallacy that something (a bet selection)could win more (flat betting)
I thought that the progressions are a good weapon ,BUT if it will be dangerous(BIG progression) it is also a DOOM!
I thought that in any method/system that I would make , I should always leave the Casino even with a little profit.
After all these knowledje that I had I thought of a method that it was the best one I have ever made in the past or seen in any forum!
I don t have the time to post it now ,because it is very complex.
But very soon I will post it in this Topic.
Don t worry all will become very clear.
Hello there dear Jordan, welcome to the forum.
Quote from: Jordan on May 02, 03:39 PM 2010
I don t have the time to post it now ,because it is very complex.
Remember, every long walk being with the first step.
It is better to explain a method little by little, being sure every single part is understood and then moving on.
We are going to be here for the long run, so no rush; we are all ears.
Cheers :)
well chin up bro... don't let the other forums let u down. NOt really fun being the whipping boy of all the math nazis as well as god knows what..
All we're here to do is to learn and share what we know :D
all the best
:D
hamsup
Thanks Jordan and we truly appreciate your dedication to studying wheel math and sharing your outcome with us. We are looking forward in learning your new method.
Best wishes,
CashGrowth.
Hello good friends.
Today I will post the method.
I just have 1 question...
How can we know if someone will copy/paste the Method in an other forum???
Its not fair also that anyone from any forum, even without being a member here ,can see the topic!
The best way to expose it is to have a private Topic to avoid the Casino managers watchers and the bad members of the other forums.
Don t you all agree?
The 2 reasons that I decided to post it in this forum is because:
1)Its a forum with ONLY good members
2)Victor is a very gentelman and I wanted to help his forum.
Welcome Jordan( 27) right ?
Ask Victor about an private (close)Topic, i don t know if it is possible.
Anyway , we are good people here, but..........do what you want. ;)
Jordan, you seem to care about the exclusivity of this board and this is very positive. Victor is 'hand-picking' members carefully so I believe all members here are just adequate to review and appreciate your work.
So, to avoid other 'passers-by' to get full hands on your masterpiece, I would suggest that you post you method in a password protected file (doc, xls, zip, pdf) and post the password privately to each member of this forum.
However, when you send good, good comes back to you and it works the same way even if good has landed in the hands of the unworthy.
Now, Experts, let's just take inspiration from Jordan and work on more profitable methods development.
All the best,
CashGrowth.
Jordan, you seem to care about the exclusivity of this board and this is very positive
Yes you are very correct in that.
I wouldn t dare to call a method Holly Grail without enginiearing for the best and test a lot.
There are several reasons WHY this method works so safely and so good.
I am thinking that If I would try to explain all these several reasons it would take a lot of posts...because every time I will forget at least 1 reason and the 1 more etc.
I need from Victor to make a PRIVATE topic...
In this topic I will post all the method and we will discuss it and test it as much as u want.
idea you could do is post people the system and then talk about it on the board as long as you dont mention the triggers is should be all good seen this done on many boards
Just let Vic set up a private section for members only.
That would be the best.
Cheers
Jakk
yes this would be the best.
when this prive Topic will be ready the method will be posted in 1 post.
Then u can ask anything u like about the method.
QuoteI need from Victor to make a PRIVATE topic...
I am willing to do "private
sections" which are LISTED, this means, people can see there ARE private sections and contact the moderator in place.
Private section owners have a panel for THEM (not me) to grant and deny access to the members at their own discretion.
Let's make something. I'm going to the casino for today's session, when I'm back I start passing this database to the RouletteForum.cc (link:://RouletteForum.cc) domain and take the opportunity to make the adjustments for the private boards and owner's panel features.
So there will be a bit of erratic downtime, but the passing to a more memorable domain name should be worth. I'll advice, this private section feature should be good and working for tomorrow.
Cheers!
Great one Victor, we await with excitement!
Have a good session against the wheel ;)
CashGrowth.
sounds great to me as well vic
Good luck at the casino tooo
cheers hamsup
Ok very nice Victor.
Let s now tell u ppl somethings about the method.
The name of the method couldn t be something else than HYDRA.(my avatar)
The reason why it got this name is because this mythological beast had the ability when someone cut the 1 head to grow back 2 in the same neck.
This exactly is happening with the Hydra method/system.
The very unique progression has 7 steps.
In the martignale the 7 steps(1,2,4,8,16,32,64)can cost a loss of 127 chips!
In hydra the loss will be only 14 chips BUT even if u will lose it will never be 14...the most usual is 11-12.
But this -12 is NOTHING ,because the other heads are making more and are covering the down with more profit.
In a lot of sessions 2 of the heads lost 2 times each the 7 steps but the loss didn t got -35 to end the session and count it as a lost one...so after about 30 bets this sessions was winner.
Also the system has many Resets...So a lot of times the 1 head can be at the 5th step and the other head can win and be in a total new profit!
So when this is happening the head with the 5th step of the progression will be reseted again to 1.We need to play always safe.
The Bank needed in 35 chips.
So the suggested winning targget is +15 and the stop loss is -35.
As you understand you need 3 winning sessions and 1 lost and you are +.
The 10.000 bets that I have tested show me that the average is 5 Wins and 1 Lost.
Now if I wouldn t push it in some sessions to make the profit of +15 and would have end my session with less (like +7) ,the lost sessions would be very less.
I always wanted a system that I could play with small Bank.
And I always wanted to have rules and not bet by instict.
ps.It is importand to read all the above twice.
Because when the system will be posted you should know the general idea of playing
thank you.
Wow Jordan I have to admit, it sounds really good. As I understood, the Hydra is a group of limited progressions played at the same time!? Possibly in different evens or dozens? I like that kind of play and I can't wait to find out more! I think you hit the right spot by chosing safe progression, stop loss and multiple selection. Very brainy you are.
Thanks for sharing and hopefully we will get the full works soon.
CashGrowth.
yes you have understood some parts of the system...
well done
I will be happy to show you the Hydra.You sound like a clever and desent person.
Keep all of you ppl in mind that the triggers selection has nothing to do with the power of the system.Because as the experts and knowleged players know, NOTHING is winning more than something else...its all the same,because all are random.
So the triggers selection are for an other reason...
The Maths behind the Hydra are responsible for the good resaults.
You just need to know that without the spesific triggers it is not possible to use it...
Because we just need to define the betting moment.
No system that relayes in bet selection is worth playing ...
come on then jordan when can we have sleepless nights of testing have you spoke to victor
Victor has seen the request of opening a prive topic and he agreed.
don t worry when the topic will be open i will post it
Hi,
Sounds good,please add me also in private topic if is possible,I really want to see this interesting system.
Private topic is good idea,great job guys.
Regards.
I just finished writing in the WORD all the system!
I am just waiting for the Prive Topic to open...then its only a Copy/paste sutuation.
Hi Jordan how is it going? You might be excited for having your method nice and tidy already in a MS Word document waiting to be released ;) So are we :D
Any bells from Victor? I believe the private option is ready by now?!
Best wishes,
CashGrowth.
Quote from: CashGrowth on May 04, 11:14 AM 2010
I believe the private option is ready by now?!.
It is. Can you confirm you see it jordan? (Below the framework section)[attachimg=#]
Hi,
How I can access private place,is that will possible?
Thank you.
Regards.
OK I've just added a zone for information on who owns what sections.
Jordan, please feel free to post there what do you expect from members who request access: link:://roulette.vls.cc/index.php/topic,65.0.html
Outline who you want in and who you want out, this way people can know better if they qualify.
Cheers!
Thank you so much Victor and I already PM Jordan requesting my VIP ticket to his Private Party ;)
See you soon Jordan!
Best luck to all,
CashGrowth.
yes victor I can see the post....
But I can t see HOW I can chose password as you told me and how I can invite the members that I want....
Jordan, please check your PM inbox.
Instructions sent.
Enjoy your group! :)
I am checking the members that I want in now...
But i can t see anyware my TOPIC
Ok I posted the SYSTEM!
Victor I hope it is safe and ONLY the members that I had chosen to be able to see it now...
I still can not see the JORDANS TOPIC in the board
All ok VICTOR..
i saw it ..it is a sub directory..thank you
Good mate.
There is an index where the owned sections are at the top, but it is made a subdirectory for the main index to remain slim. We like it better like that ;)
Enjoy your very own space at this forum Jordan! (And those who are granted access, do your test & comment).
Cheers.
Thank you Victor.
Try to keep this forum clean.
Hello,
First of all:
Every time I read "holy grail" I feel sick. Not to mention how I feel when I read it in CAPITALS.
Furthermore, the creation of private sections in a newfound and very small forum, let me only imagine what intrigue and ego-mess would happen here if ever this forum becomes big.
In my humble opinion this is not the right way to create a community.
Good luck.
Victor u are now in a hard possition...
U are always try to do the best but as u see ppl just letting u down...
Have strength my friend
Hello there Jordan and KAV.
If there's something I have learned from the "VLSroulette experience" is that there is space for both sides of the coin.
Not a hard spot at all guys. The roulette "world" is big enough for having some people sharing and some people debating in private (PM's, email, etc.).
It has been like this for ages:
Side A: The house edge remains the same no matter the system, so debating in public is the way to go.
Side B: I want to debate only with some friends I choose, it is my system and I have the right to do so.
Both have a valid point. There is enough space for both.
Regards.
By the way, as the system is not published here, I'm taking this thread out of the "Full systems" section. I believe it is fair to do so ;)
yes Victor this is the correct thing to do
Hi Jordan ,
How do I get on to your H/G room ?
I really would like to check it out, Maybe I wont have to go to work tomorrow lol
Thanks Bella
Quote from: bella on May 06, 08:55 PM 2010
I really would like to check it out
Hello Bella, the Hydra method has been posted by Jordan here: link:://rouletteforum.cc/full-systems/hydra-system/
Feel free to check that link out.
Regards.
does the hydra exist??????? ???
Quote from: viclimks on Sep 04, 02:17 PM 2011
does the hydra exist? ??? ??? ???
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yeah the link is dead :-( . Anyone remember what happened with this system.? Did any good come out of it?!
vundarosa
Ask the author Jordan , VIP, Viper ....RouletteExplorer.
Quote from: Kattila on Sep 05, 02:42 AM 2011
Ask the author Jordan , VIP, Viper ....RouletteExplorer.
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you're sure they are the same person?!
vundarosa
The system performed really safe and well...but like all systems it is failling in the long run ...so not playable.
Its a modification of the Boffins bet.
Jordan,
I have been away with work recently, so I haven't been able to chime in on your discussion, but I am excited for the position you are now in. I remember how excited I was when I posted my first REAL system, and how I wanted to share my enthusiasm and excitement with everyone.
I went the opposite way of you, posting to several forums instead of trying to restrict access to it. I did get some of the math nazis typical knee-jerk reactions, but I got a LOT of positive feedback from some of the giants of the online roulette world. I felt that I was a part of the group. What I have discovered is that, even if your system were to make to it another board, the lack of quality of other boards insure that it falls into a hole where none of the negative forum people would benefit from your hard work anyway. Only a great forum like this, made up of serious players and students of the game, can support an honest discussion of your method.
With some feedback from others on my own system, I developed a version 2.0, which is still being looked at after several months of public feedback. There will eventually be a version 3.0, but 2.0 is even stronger than the original method. I commend you for opening your work up to your peers and hope that it works out exceptionally well for you and your online friends here. We all are cheering for everyone that puts out an original, real method in the hopes of beating the game.
Good luck!