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M.O.P.E.D.5 ................................Making Five Percent Every Day.

It does exactly what it says on the tin!

I'm focused here, on making 5% of my 100 Euro bankroll each and every day.

Started off with 100 Euro.

First day Total was:-
Second day Total was:-
Third day Total was:-
I will be also running the 1% Topic, using a Live Wheel Only, starting with 100 bankroll.

So I guess You can tell where this 5% is being made, if You know anything about me! LoL

I will join you on your journey once i learn the right methods to make that 5% everyday !

BTW, I suppose its not a M.O.P.E.D anymore, since we are now talking making 5% per day!

That's a M.F.P.E.D then!.....or..........M.5.P.E.D at best!!! lol

go-go-go!!!!
good luck

May the force compound with you...  :)

Thanks chaps.

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Today's 5%. (Day Four)

Start total 120.27
;)

Watching this blog with interest.  ;)

Suggestion: you may want to reduce your target by 1% every time you double the bank, until eventually you're back at 1% or even 0.5%.

Don't get greedy.  ^-^

I love it when someone attempts this.

Who better than our friend Chris.

Are you using the same system exclusively or a covey of systems?

Would you mind giving us a tad bit more info, like number of spins to reach goal each day.  Largest drawdown.

It's not necessary, but would be interesting.

You have our undivided attention, my friend.

G
P.S.  I guess the 1% test is a subgroup of this one. :o

2ND play of the day, so I guess this is really cheating myself, and greedy, but I have a busy weekend ahead, and may not get time for my Daily 5% intake/game play.

Start BR:- 127.76

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Hi George.

Thanks for showing an interest.

The +5% daily play is solely using one form of bet.

Its my own BisCending4 bet, designed by myself, and put into a single use bot by superman.
Fortunately, I found a way, of loading multiple bots all on the one screen, so I actually play with 5 versions of the same bet/bot.

Superman makes superb bots.

In BisCending4 (for those who do not know me and my bets).... I begin with what we call a 'Pivot Point'
That is a number U choose to start from.
Then we bet, that number, and (starting with 9 inside numbers in total), I also bet its 4 neighbours each side of it. So that makes the 9 inside numbers.
If WIN, we have a new number (or same if happens to be a repeat) to play from.
If LOSE, we then increase the catchment area, and increase to 11 numbers (Pivot Point + 5 each side)
If WIN, again we reset to 9 numbers.
If LOSE, we go to 13 numbers.... and so on... upto 25 numbers max!


The bet sequence, is a progression. I'm a progression nutcase!

But the secret is in choosing when to make another bot take up the slack, and 'absorb' some of the losses, and come back and discharge its heavy load, when I know a particular set of numbers (a sector) is hitting.

Now I know your going to ask, how do I know when a set of numbers are hitting?
I can teach it, but I couldn't show it!

Superman has asked me to note it, so he could then Bot it!.... but its difficult!

This method under my control, is very good..........very profitable.

The profit above took 24 minutes to make, using 0.01cents.

The bet/progression sequence is:-
0.01 on 9 numbers.....................Bet = 0.09
0.01 on 11 numbers...................Bet = 0.11
0.02 on 13 numbers...................Bet = 0.26
0.04 on 15 numbers...................Bet = 0.60
0.08 on 17 numbers...................Bet = 1.36
0.17 on 19 numbers...................Bet = 3.23
0.40 on 21 numbers...................Bet = 8.40
1.15 on 23 numbers...................Bet = 26.45
???? on 25 numbers................... I can't remember what it is!! (mainly cause I wouldn't use it!)

My biggest draw down has been 14.01 which happened once.
Mostly, I restrict it to 5.61 max as its a reasonable figure.

(Not forgetting though, that I have possibly 5 bet/bots running, and I could have a level 4 bet 'owing' on several of them! So really, the max draw down, could be a lot higher.)
(I tend to try and keep a max of 2 bots with high levels owing on them!)

Spins per session, for the +5%, are around the 200 mark.
Here are the spin counts below. (as yet, no real average, as the first session, was just setting up the bots again, I haven't played them for weeks now, and also getting used to betting again!)

Spins:
517 (made up from 312 spins + 205 spins)
185 (one session)
136 (one session)
226 (made from 176 spins = 50 spins)
66   (this is today's spin:- and excellent game, really focused on it, and hence very low spin count.)

It one point today, I almost had the same $ amount in bets, as I had in Profit! so turnover was exceedingly Low, Mr.Kipling!

Yes, the 1% is a sub group.
On that test/play, I'm using a Live wheel (Castle Casino), and I will just be sticking to making 1-2% each and every day.
Its a Tougher wheel/game, than Bet Voyager, which is where this results are from.

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@Bayes

thanks for the advice Jules. :thumbsup:

I thought of it differently!
I will keep U informed. I have some cunning plans up my sleeve!

@All

If anyone else is playing along with this, then one tip I will give U, is use the CASHIER facility at Bet Voyager, and 'Remove'  Some, or ALL, of your profits from your current bankroll.
I find it really centers my concentration, as I then only play with the original 100 start BR.
It won't be so easy later on, when I have to make 5% of several hundreds, but the principle is the same. Plus, if it does go tits-up, I have some money saved up!

Apologies if anyone is offended by the turn of phrase here used, I know some people don't like to see the word "Remove " in front of them!!! LoL


Here's a Link to the early versions/theory behind BisCending
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4548.msg49153#msg49153 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4548.msg49153#msg49153)

Quote from: GLC on Nov 04, 10:16 AM 2011
Would you mind giving us a tad bit more info

I can see you had trouble deciphering the words "tad bit" and you thought I said "tome".

Just kidding. ;D

Thanks for the in depth analysis.

Let me see, @ 0.01 cents per unit if we're betting 23 numbers that's 2,645 units in play.  Hadn't thought of doing it that way. :thumbsup:

Git 'er done, my friend.

G

Any time George, U know I always keep things brief me!! :twisted:

Saturday's 5 % session.

I'm banking a few sessions, so effectively, it is now +5% each session, but there are some days, like tomorrow when I will not be able to play on-line.

Here's this mornings session.

Took 26 minutes to complete.

Start BankRoll:- 135.03
target is +5% (6.75)

[reveal=STATS for those that want 'em!]  Bet Voyager, No Zero wheel. 132 spins, 26 mins play time.
Highest Draw-Down = 8.40 (level 6 bet-occurring once). Using BisCending4 x 5 bots.[/reveal]

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More next time. At the end of Thursday, next week, I will do a 7 day summary.

cheers all.

Saturday Evening Session for my 5 % .

End of the day session, so effectively, it is now +5% each session, but there are some days, like tomorrow when I will not be around, its my Mothers 75th birthday!
Happy Birthday Sylvia Curwen!.

Here's the 7th session.

Took 1 hour to complete,  this time using the new and much improved MST Tracker/Clicker.

Start BankRoll:- 143.70
target is +5% (7.18)

[reveal=STATS & Fancy Graph!!]  Bet Voyager, No Zero wheel. 183 spins, 1 hr 4mins play time.
Highest Draw-Down = -3.00 (SAW lost 6 times in a row, then NS lost!).
Using MST v1.5.3. Mostly MS4, NS, CWB8, WSM, RESS, SAW, and a small trend of LETW

I'll also include my MS4 Graph screen shot-
Makes for Pleasant Viewing! Upwards- Ever Upwards!
[attach=1][/reveal]

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More soon. I will catch U guys later!

cheers all. :)

I really want to start this but i only have 50euro and still no idea how to make that 5% a day. I downloaded the MST tracker, which one of the systems do you use? Cheers and i'm glad you are keeping us updated!

Variety!

Try them all virtual at first, using the free spin design we have to get the results!

Free Spin...(just one of many) for Bet Voyager No Zero wheel:-
3 chips (any size) on LOW,
+
1 chip on Line Number 4 (Double Streets 19,20,21,22,23,24.
+
2 chips on Dozen 3 (3RD Dozen)

Total bet = 6, U win 6 each time so, no loss/gain.

Use it to obtain free spins.
Build it into the memory device that BV have on the gaming window, and save as FREE SPIN(S)
(Put in capitals, then its easier to read when on the small game window U need for using MST)


Looks Like this (I hope!!! LoL)

[felt]
3 @L
1@ DS4
2@D3
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On MST 1.5.3 I don't use RESS anymore..... its quite nasty when it digs its own hole !!
Its like a dog doing its own mess, but then covering up other dogs doings!!
It just never recovers.(covers...LoL)

My favs are MS4 (thanks Kattila-great job)...
NS, its weird but it works.
SAW and my own version ANTI-SAW, where U play the numbers that:- ISN'T showing, cause U just know SAW is going to lose, so, go and bet the OTHER 12 numbers !!! LoL
and I like CWB8, of course, old fav that one of Ivica, and I occasionally play WSM.

I also keep an eye on FMoDR, but I don't bet with it always.
Repeaters are there in abundance, but with Sumits FMoDR, You have to wait till they are THRICE before he/it bets on them.
I watch the graph carefully, and when its really down low, then I let FMoDR do its stuff.
MS4 is by far the best overall system on MSt for me.
Followed closely by SAW/ANTI SAW.

The whole matrix thing, is really hit and miss for me.
Random does do what is not supposed to do on BV.
I watch the bets, see what they are asking for, and make a decision.
MT 3 is the best.... I sometimes follow.

Like I say, try them all.

Don't get hooked up on the trending too much. Yesterday, I was way ahead, and ALL the trends where pointing downhill.!

Its about knowing when to change, and when to stick! (with one system/method I mean)

cheers.

Taking a break today..... new posts on 1% & 5 % tomorrow.
I doubled up over the weekend with results so I'm ahead of my true position.

where  i can get new tracker mst 1.5.3 chris..cheers

HERE!!! (link:://rmst.forumer.com/index.php)

Yes, it auto updates.

Say yes when asked.

cheers

it says 1.5 is it updating after you install it :thumbsup:

official version 1.5.3 is out  :thumbsup:

Quote from: Chrisbis on Nov 07, 04:21 PM 2011
On MST 1.5.3 I don't use RESS anymore..... its quite nasty when it digs its own hole !!
Its like a dog doing its own mess, but then covering up other dogs doings!!
It just never recovers.(covers...LoL)

Original progression is just rubbish. But is is doing quite well flat bet or with dynamic one.


Also for free "dummy" bets on BV NZ you can use
1chip on DS1 / 1chip on DS2 / 2chip on D2 / 2chip on D3  :)
and all variants of it.

on this rees i set it up to track 65 spins to find sleeping street then once found i do bet the sleeping street plus two either site say sleeping one is 456street  so bet 456 and 123 and 789 once when it hits sleeping one i keep betting with higher chips on this sleeping one for one more hit..it works for now thanks :thumbsup:

Here's the 8 th session.

Took 2 hour to complete,  this time using the latest Version of BisCending4-Trigger.

Start BankRoll:- 151.57
target is +5% (7.57)

A little short of the target, so I will have to make up for it next time!
I have to go and do the day job!!

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More tonight

cheers all. :)

hi chrisbis
whats the new trigger for bisCending 4 ??
Ive been playing on betvoyager with decent results :)

It is not that there is a new trigger, (altho I do have some secrets up my sleeve, I will share later), its just that this bot version superman made/updated for me, shows the Trigger number that the bot last won on, and hence would become the new 'Pivot Point' for the bot to play from!.

I have to be careful what I do divulge on here, as there are some Al/Sumit  Mince-Spies in here, who are collecting data and Commercial Systems, for copying in the far East!

There is a feeling my idea has been pinched, when actually, all they needed to do was ask!
I'm an 'Open Door' policy type of guy, and I will share with interested parties.

U will not get much 'Bull' from me!
Straight as a di !

Here's what the trigger display looks like on BisCending4-Trigger.
The number 3 is the inside number the bot just Won on.
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Here's the same bot front end, but with an indicator mark on it, that lets me know, what level I have just completed! The 3 is the Inside number to bet on, and the other numbers indicate which level has been used. (Just an example).
[reveal]
[attachimg=2]
[/reveal]

And here's the most amazing Screen shot I have in my PC!
[reveal]
[attach=3]
[reveal]
(Yes........ 8 Bot versions all at once !!)[/reveal][/reveal]

Bot details available thro me or superman!

Legals:-
There is a cost in having a bot made to work on your private PC!
(And your dental plan insurance, will not cover U for that!! LoL)

8  :lol:

Here's the 9th session.

Took 1 hour 09 mins to complete, using the latest Version of BisCending4-Trigger.

Start BankRoll:- 159.01
target is +5% (7.95)

Spins= 108 .. Biggest draw down= 26.45 (level 7 play), I had a visitor, and lost concentration!
Good job it recovered.
Note also:- The little shortfall is now re-couped!

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More to follow.

cheers all. :)

Here's the 10th session.

Took 40 mins to complete, using the latest Version of BisCending4-Trigger.

Start BankRoll:- 170.09
target is +5% (8.50)

Spins= 98 .. Biggest draw down= 3.23 (level 6 play), Concentration restored!

Some screen shots for U.

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U will also notice with interest, that the Total Amount Bet is only 36.18, which gives a Bet/Profit ratio of only just under 4:1 which is phenomenal! Very low.

cheers all. :)

Keep going my friend.

Depending on how far you get, Superman and Chrisbis may have to start a little business on the side.  Maybe someone in marketing could join the team.

GLC

Here's the 11th session.

Took 69 mins to complete, using the latest Version of BisCending4-Trigger.

Start BankRoll:- 179.27
target is +5% (8.96)

The jump in BR Total, and the Profit rise, is due manly to the last bet, which was after a draw down of 8.40 (on one bot). I had a level 8 waiting to be played out on Pivot Point Inside Number 25, but everything was trending over on the other side of the wheel/table, a whole 180* out of phase.
I waited and waited till the true trigger came, and then I knew after two loses, I could lauch.

See the game window screen shot for that final bet.

Its designed to return a healthy margin, especially after the risk of the bet.
For 0.01 cents bet, I'm betting 2625 cents for recovery! And it worked, and hence the jump clear of the Target hurdle, and speeding on-wards towards doubling my bankroll, is less than 13 sessions!

Spins= 25 + 116=141 (2 mini sessions).. Biggest draw down= 8.40 (level 8 play next), Very Concentrated!

Screen shot for U.

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cheers all. :)

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EDIT.
I'm re-reading this, imagining others thinking this must have been the session form hell....... but far from it... it was all handled very calmly, and carefully indeed!

Chris, it sounds to me like the bot isn't making all the decisions for you (ie; it's not a totally mechanical way of playing) but you're choosing the entry and exit times. Is that right?

Exactly right Bayes.

The bot is really a clicker, (Chip placer), though it does calculate the next level progression, and remembers where I am at.

By have 8 of the same bot open at one time, I play one off against the other, and when I reach a dizzy heights of a large progression level, I hold it back in abeyance, until I feel the timing is right.

My secret is out!! LoL

The next trick, is to try and rationalise all these decisions I make, and see if they can be put into a program, one that adapts like I do, to the changing circumstances, and plays like me.

Playing several bots off against each other, also allows u do many things U would not ordinarily be able to do.

See one of my screen shots, and U will see what I mean.
I had 23,23,23 on the Marquee, and I just happened to have three bots all within range of that Inside number!!

Amazing game.

Quote from: Chrisbis on Nov 09, 04:14 AM 2011
The next trick, is to try and rationalise all these decisions I make, and see if they can be put into a program, one that adapts like I do, to the changing circumstances, and plays like me.

It's not easy, I've been trying to do the same thing with my 'system' for quite a while. Works great when I re-evaluate conditions on a spin-by-spin basis, but trying to get all those decisions down into a kind of formula which can be followed mechanically is very frustrating. Victor tried with his tipping tool and didn't succeed. I'm beginning to wonder whether Spike and Gizmo weren't right after all...  :(

Still, on the plus side, winning is winning, no matter how you do it.

Here's the 12th session, and Final session in this 5% series of plays. Point proven.


These Final session (3), took 2 HRS mins to complete, using the latest Version of BisCending4.

Start BankRoll:- 194.11
target is +5% (9.71)



Spins= 90 + 31 +79=200 (3 mini sessions).. Biggest draw down= 8.40
Nice Result!

Screen shot of Final Balance.

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cheers all. :) Job well done.  :thumbsup:

Right.  :thumbsup:

Time to move on to the main event.

Next stop :-
10 % per day (Daily Target).

See here (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=7853.msg71508#msg71508) for the next Topic/thread.

This 5% thread is now officially complete.
(also note, the 1% daily target has now been suspended indefinitely.)
Will be left open for questions, and comments.  :girl_to:

See U for the 10% challenge then!!!!................................................   :xd: