Welcome to ................M.O.P.E.D. 10..............the holy grail of Daily Earnings!
I have been thinking for a few days now, of an additional challenge,
to the existing M.O.P.E.D.1 and M.O.P.E.D.5 threads already in existence.
For this task, making 10% per day/session, I will need Forums help, and I want to put together a crack back-up team, who can come along and 'do things for me'.
Like change the tryes (tires for the U.S.A folk), when they wear down, or provide me with a "Coffee" now and again, when I get stuck in a crucial game section, whilst I attempt perform this delicate operation, on the very SOUL of Roulette itself!
Hell, I could even get one or two of the Ladies in here to 'mop my brow'!
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My usual methods will not survive the fall when playing for 10% per day/session, well, certainly when I'm up in the Stratosphere End of the game, and have to make HUNDREDS in each game!
So, forum..... I need your help.
I need your best bet, either put on here for me and all to see, or, as the case might be, sent to me privately, and rest assured I will not reveal to either forum members, or others who may approach me for such revelations!
During the course of the 10% play, I will only acknowledge the originator of the method, not the method itself, if U supply me with the goodies that is!!
Poss only initials mentioned, as I guess there will be some members systems and ideas, that they don't want to be hassled with !
So, please, as this Rag and Bone scrap dealer passes your house/residence, spare a penny/cent for the GUY (Its Guy Fawkes Night here in United Kingdom today)... and share with me your best ideas.
Then I will risk my money, and input my time, it making your idea turn 100Euro/GBP into 10% profit every time I play or every day!
I'm making preparations today, and tomorrow, so actual 10% game play may not occur till Monday Next.
Help me to help u!
(such a clincher of a phrase that one!!) :o
I open to ideas as to where to play this game, either RNG (BV) or Live wheel... I don't mind.
What will U get I hear U saying............................. the knowledge your system/idea help someone show that You can profit by 10% every day/session.
Come on chap/chapesses..........................LETS DO THIS! O0
red black,wrangler strategy,lose 1unit up,win 1unit down,restart from start bet from 1 when 1 unit in profit.beware of RRBBRRBBRRBB
Hardly ever could anyone found method with better chance of winning 1 unit with 10 units bankroll. You start on line 10 and on win you go to line in W column and on loss you go to line on L column. Obviously line number correspond to your bankroll size at the moment. Column Pwin tells what is the overall probability of having bankroll size 11 units before having 0 units...
| bankroll | bet | W | L | Pwin |
| 0 | no bet | - | - | 0.0000% |
| 1 | 1 unit on 8:1 | 9 | 0 | 8.7203% |
| 2 | 1 unit on 8:1 | 10 | 1 | 17.5148% |
| 3 | 1 unit on 8:1 | 11 | 2 | 26.4321% |
| 4 | 1 unit on 5:1 | 9 | 3 | 35.2262% |
| 5 | 3 units on 2:1 | 11 | 2 | 44.2668% |
| 6 | 1 unit on 5:1 | 11 | 5 | 53.3046% |
| 7 | 2 units on 2:1 | 11 | 5 | 62.3424% |
| 8 | 3 units on 1:1 | 11 | 5 | 71.3802% |
| 9 | 2 units on 1:1 | 11 | 7 | 80.6623% |
| 10 | 1 unit on 1:1 | 11 | 9 | 90.0698% |
| 11 | no bet | - | - | 100.0000% |
by the way it is obvious that 10% a day will lose soon, 0.9^6=0.53, so there is 47% chance that it will not survive more than six sessions...
If you play this, select some location for each bet and wait for virtual loss to 2-3 times in a row before you start for real. Ignore the fact that number of spins for a session completion may vary...
Good luck :twisted:
Quote from: mr.ore on Nov 05, 05:49 PM 2011
by the way it is obvious that 10% a day will lose soon, 0.9^6=0.53, so there is 47% chance that it will not survive more than six sessions...
If you play this, select some location for each bet and wait for virtual loss to 2-3 times in a row before you start for real. Ignore the fact that number of spins for a session completion may vary...
Good luck :twisted:
True. Already lost in some tests. Even two times in one wiesbaden session... Good luck with this Chris.
Regards
Drazen
Quote from: mr.ore on Nov 05, 05:49 PM 2011
by the way it is obvious that 10% a day will lose soon, 0.9^6=0.53, so there is 47% chance that it will not survive more than six sessions...
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I'm confused. Even if we play no zero? Shouldn't we lose 100% every 11th time, and win 10% the other 10 times?
Now this is really a challenge. I propose when u get to 1000$ bankroll stop and only make 10% of 1000$ (even if you get to 2000$ banrkoll) a day meaning 100$/day !! Also proposing systems here is great. Those who don't share/hint shouldn't be on this forum at all. I suggest using Pattern breaker , Code 4 and Divide and Conquer, which i would personally use but people no longer post in these threads for some reason.
Quote from: Mudiru on Nov 07, 12:59 PM 2011
Now this is really a challenge. I propose when u get to 1000$ bankroll stop and only make 10% of 1000$ (even if you get to 2000$ banrkoll) a day meaning 100$/day !! Also proposing systems here is great. Those who don't share/hint shouldn't be on this forum at all. I suggest using Pattern breaker , Code 4 and Divide and Conquer, which i would personally use but people no longer post in these threads for some reason.
Mate.
I have a great respect for JL (although I must admit at the beginning I was skeptical)and also there are people who still play his methods with success.
It seems he decided to not post on the forum.
Quote from: Chrisbis on Nov 05, 10:15 AM 2011
Come on chap/chapesses..........................LETS DO THIS! O0
Hi Chris
Since until now no proposal occured I have one.
I consider this to be a very strong bet method.
The idea is simple: law of averages and MM.
Bet on one dozen- no matter which one and stay with it until in profit of 10 units.
Level of stake:
Level 1- 1 unit
Level 2- 3 units
Level 3- 9 units
Level 4- 27 units (played until now and never passed this level)
Bet at level one until +10 or down to -20.
If down to -20 then stake the level 2 until +10 or -80.
If -80 then go to next level and so on.
You need to be only 5 spins ahead on each level to reach the target.
This wins consistently if played faster with a bot and on all 3 dozen in the same time - and on a non zero wheel.
Give it a try mate !
QuoteThis wins consistently if played faster with a bot and on all 3 dozen in the same time - and on a non zero wheel
On the no zero wheel you cant play all 3 at the same time, Chris and I did try a method covering single dozens and it went well for many days until a dozen slept for 29 spins, I havent calculated with your method but how many could you survive mate?
Quote from: superman on Nov 08, 10:21 AM 2011
On the no zero wheel you can't play all 3 at the same time, Chris and I did try a method covering single dozens and it went well for many days until a dozen slept for 29 spins, I haven't calculated with your method but how many could you survive mate?
Did not know this. My mistake ! :thumbsup:
The whole point is that one dozen will do it.
Gave it a try with 1 million spins from Bayes- It went to Level 5- 81 per bet but recovered in that session and ended +90 units.
After 4600 spins- it ended around + 360 units.
To play more safe we should increase the number of bets for each level from 20 to 30 in order to deal with long deviations from the average and long sleping dozens.
In the long run- only MM could beat this game or hit and run with luck on your side.
Play has begun on this 'Task'/'Challenge'.
+30% in 3 days play (4 session in total so far)
Start BR 100. (Taken from my 5% winnings.) I withdrew 100 back into checking account! Nice. :smile:
Balance now..... well see for Urself.
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by the way, all from BisCending4 play.(EDIT:- worst draw-down was 3.23 Euro.)
Hoping to make similar amount over the weekend.
Cheers all.
@RouletteExplorer.
Thanks for the PM reply man, how about posting up some results, screen shots and play session info (without giving away any dark secrets) for your Consistent Winning Bet then Jordan?
Just coming here, and expect folk to be chasing something from THIN AIR is really clutching at STRAWS!!
All the best to U. Sorry U don't like my humour. :-X
Now at 145 Euro.
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Now at 160.03
10%/session complete.
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Quote from: Chrisbis on Nov 12, 07:27 AM 2011
Now at 160.03
10%/session complete.
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Keep going Chris.
All eyes are on you! :smile: :o :love: :thumbsup:
How much are you aiming for? Another 100? 1000?
Now at 176.65
10%/session complete.
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Now at 193.78
10%/session complete.
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Now at 193.93
Yes, just 0.15 cents profit.
Session from hell, and the first one in over two weeks.
The last bet in my series progression (level 8 ) missed its intended target,
by ONE number, and I was left down!.
I then dropped like a stone in a deep gorge, and fell to just over 100Euro.
Took me a good 20 mins to recover back to 185, and then re-build the Mind Data Base to get back to my session start position!
Exciting, ar5e -clenching ride I can tell U, and I thought I had lost control of the Tractor!
Thankfully, I did recover, and now ready for the 10% challenge again!
Coffee anyone? Drop of the very hard stuff in that for U sir??
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Now at 200.03
Not a ten% increase on last time, just a Milestone, in Doubling Yet again, my Starting BankRoll.
Another 100 Euro profit.
Time to withdraw.
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still a brill achievement
Well done !!
Thank U. :)
2nd round.
Re-Start Balance = 100.02
Balance Now after 6th session = 110.97 :thumbsup:
10%/session complete.
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2ND round, session #2
Now at 122.80
10%/session complete
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2ND round session #3
Now at 135.28
10%/session complete
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2ND round #4a & 4b (mini session + main session)
Now at 150.42
10%/session(s) complete
Profit of 10.10 + 5.04 making 15.14 total
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50 of the 4b session spins, were from *Free Spin* on-Auto. (whilst I had lunch!)
Low wagering on these two games, biggest draw-down 3.23 or a bet on level 6.
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This puts me and Bet Voyager, evens now, for the last 3 months!
Phew!
Lets hope we can now pull some Christmas Cheer out of them!
The current Balance, is all profit.
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2ND round #5a, 5b & 5c (Main, Sub & Mini sessions)
Now at 165.61
10%/session complete.
Made from Three Sub-sessions.
150.42 to 160.55 in 90 spins, wagering 16.93 for profit of 10.13 (BisCending4)
then
160.55 to 161.30 in 19 spins- (Loss of Internet) for profit of 0.75 (BisCending4)
and
160.55 to 165.61 in 76 spins, wagering 5.83 for profit of 4.31 ( All Bis101 game play)
total profit over the two sessions = 15.19
session 5a:-
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Session 5c:-
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2ND round session #6
Now at 182.93
10% complete. Nearly there! (used MST tracker for this session) :thumbsup:
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2ND round session#7
Now at 200.38 (MST game play)
Bankroll Doubled.
End of 10%/session challenge
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Thank U for watching.
Quote from: Chrisbis on Nov 16, 06:40 PM 2011
2ND round session#7
Now at 200.38 (MST game play)
Bankroll Doubled.
End of 10%/session challenge
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Thank U for watching.
Are you quitting?
Winning 10% each day?
Must be because you have a better system.
Yes?
No?
Not quitting Per-Say, just the natural end of posting up every session on this 10%/session/daily thread.
My computer is full of screen shots!!
I may just post up a weekly update on the 10% play, but need some better bets now, if i want to take this target up and over the 500 unit mark.
BisCending4, is too complex for that sort of advanced profit gain.
I am also looking for new challenges, and the next project.
I have shown, that it is possible, quite possible to earn 10% per session with my BisCending4 system, and also aided by Ophis's excellent MST tracker, though wagering is much higher.
I have now, to try to somehow write a set of rules for the way I play BisCending4 (BC4), and then see if it can be coded into a clicker.
Not sure if its possible. We will see.
Also, for sometime now, I have been trying to find the sequence to Albalaha's FMoDR-Ultimate, and he new A.H.G.
There is something in that system that could be quite useful.
Its certainly is not a H.G. as he claims... (what's in a name eh?).. but could certainly be better than
the current FMoDR for RNG .
As You know, I am mostly RNG player.
The biggest pitfall, is the wagering involved in chasing the repeat.
You know 'A' number is going to repeat at 'Some' time, its just when?
Could be we do something else, whilst we are waiting?
Cheers.
P.S.
There is also a big search underway for One of the Ubiquitous CEH bets!
..and if anyone reading this has any info, clue, scrap book cuttings, I would really appreciate it.
Anonymity will be sacrosanct of course. :wink:
I would be very happy if one day isee Bis-cending4 coded in the MST tracker. To see if your advice and the willingness of Mr. Ophis we can.
But if there is something that worries me at first sight of this system is how much they can increase the stakes.
Adriana and I know it. :LoL:
Yo serÃa muy feliz si un dia viera codificado Bis-cending4 en el MST tracker. A ver si con tu asesoramiento y la buena disposición de Mr. Ophis podemos conseguirlo.
Pero si hay algo que a mà me preocupa a primera vista de este sistema es lo mucho que pueden incrementarse las apuestas.
Adriana y yo lo sabemos.
(Pongo también este mensaje en español por si hay por estos lares un alma que también hable mi idioma. Eso facilitarÃa mucho las cosas)
Coding it to win like I do, might prove quite tricky, but I am working on it.
Essentially, its all guess work, tho the actual placement of chips and the level reached, is all dealt with but ro-bot (thanx superman).
What I am doing, is delaying the continuation of playing a growing sector bet, (I start at 9 numbers centered on a spin result, as my pivot point, and work outwards) until I feel I am in a better position, in time, to cancel out the bet progression,and get a result.
Ur quite right, the progressions are quite scary, tho with plenty of practice, I can get the wagering right down on this baby now.
But, in end, it is a guess I am making.
Rules maybe difficult to write, and avoid an over rigid system of sequence that would not act like me.
I will continue with the work, along with some new avenues in the BisCending formate of system play
cheers.
P.S. Look out for BisCending 9 out soon.
Update on session #12/(8th of second round)
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+ 13% gain.
Session #13/ 9th of 2nd round
Now at 250.44
10 % complete.
Very tricky session, as I am now trying the synergy of blending two
competing systems into one game play plan.
I am using my BisCending4 game (playing from 9 inside numbers upto 23 numbers!), and the very excellent S.A.W. contained within MST v 1.5.3
Very high wagering, as U expect with S.A.W., especially if You have the chip value se o chip number 3 which is playing 0.50 per inside number.
Therefore each S.A.W. placed bet is 12.00 Euro, for a return of E6.00 profit.
My Biscending4 is set at 0.01 chip ste, due to the very high progressions within the design, and BV table limits.
See the screen shot, for the escalated Wager totals! Colossal!! BisCending performed well, as a counterbalance for when I thort S.A.W. was due a lose.
I pay close attention to the LW registry on the MST systems, and use it as my playing guide.
Cheers.
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chrisbis...It would be nice if u show your overall profit at betvoyager...how much is it..because that would be final..screenshots can be edited...nuthing personal bro
so take it easy
Quote from: darrnyf on Nov 18, 05:57 AM 2011
chrisbis...screenshots can be edited...nuthing personal bro
...so by the same process, I could alter how much profit I made too?
I don't mind showing, at all, but I dislike the association of making any attempt to deceive.
I'll work it out tonight, and see if I'm ahead eh?
Are u ahead of the game darry?
no mate..i am in loss ..since past 3 years..just cant recover.human greed u may say
Lets see if we can't turn that direction around then.
yeah...i forget to keep stop loss and keep going without stopping...i know one of my friend who is banned samedays ago from this forum for no reason.i wont take his name .he is in profit at bv..not much but in profit since past 1 year
Now at 275.87
(There was an intermediate phase which took me to 263.42)
10%/session complete.
Certainly getting harder now, and as You can see, wagering has gone ORBITAL to cope with the expected draw-downs, now having to use higher value chips, to achieve an ever increasing ($wise) 10% target.
I knew it was going to happen, so, as darry nf mentioned, need new strategies in place to cope, and must have session limits which i will not drop beyond.
See screen shot for profit, wagering and total. ( I see someone wants me on Skype!) :thumbsup:
Mostly MST 1.5.3 and a mix of BisCending4 to take up the slack, and provide the early phases start numbers for MST.
Next stop is 300. :o
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Job done Ladies and Gentlemen. ;)
E 300.56 !!! bankroll has now been Tripled.>>>
Two stage session.
1st from 275.87 to 292.17 (then time for Coffee)
And 2nd stage/session 292.17 to
300.56All with the help of MST 1.5.3 and BC4.
(BC4 =Biscending4)
Time ro remove some winnings me thinks.....sound advice given by some caring friends! Thank You.
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You can see from the BV stats picture from the gaming window, that I have used different values of chips to accelerate the gains, when I know/think (never can be sure!), that the trend is staying with me, in an upwards direction. The test bets are made (that's the 0.24 to win 0.12), and then the main event is then launched, and I change the chip set to 0.10, and even, at some point during the game, set at 0.50. Doesn't always work, but with the bigger bank, You are able to absorb the loss(es), re-set and start again, looking for the roller coaster ride to continue to thrill.
Thanks for looking in. :)
I now know I can do it.
Its hard work, in fact, as I mentioned to member
amk in another topic, it can be harder work, than GOING TO WORK!! Maybe a tad more enjoyable though. LoL
Lets see what happens next.
cheers all. :thumbsup:
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They say A Picture Is Worth A Thousand words.
So, this one should speak for itself. (Nice use of the reveal feature there Chris!)
Enjoy.
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10% complete.
Couple of stages to get there, plus this one here:-
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i think u should give the overall profits statistics..from the day u started playing at betvoyager..in a same way pratikpop has given on albhalas forum..this shows genuine profit
if you read the thread which started in the 5% thread
chris deposited 100 euro
which he turned to 200 euro
he widthdrew his 100 euro deposit
so that makes it all profit
Thanks Andy.
@darrynf.
With the utmost respect, I think that is non of Ur business.
If I choose to show something like that, then U would see it.
And what someone does on another forum shall not have any bearing on what I do on this one.
But, U can be rest assured, I am ahead of the break even mark, although if i'm honest, its prob a similar figure to the chap U just mentioned.
(He showed me he had made 176 Euros since he started... tho was a few days ago.)
A lot of Casino Investment, is to be clawed back yet before I could really say,
I was in a "Great Profit" position.
I'll see how it goes.
But truly- don't ask again darrynf........ U'll get less of a response, & that's Ur second attempt.
This Topic, was about could u consistently make 10% per day, from a set bank, and the short answer, so far, is yes.
One thing I will do tho, is heed Bayes advice, and begin to reduce that 10% down a shave at a time, as its now getting tough, esp at BV using MST.
If U want see something that happened several months ago, then feast Ur eyes here.
This really happened, and at the time, I needed the exxxxtra dough I was making daily! :P
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U will see 100 going in, then as soon as I made enough, the initial 100 was taken out.
Thereafter for the next 10 withdrawals, I removed 464.03 Euros from BV Casino.
I was winning, 50 in the Morning, and 50 in the evening for 3-4 days.
But I bet I have put nearly that much back in again over that last 7months!
cheers
and good luck in Ur gaming. :thumbsup:
if this will make you sleep better darynf this are my stats
@maestro.
Those are most excellent stats Sir.
Ur obviously a much better player than I.
I must do more to learn better play techniques and gaming strategies.
Well done mate.
I take my hat off to U. :thumbsup: :smile:
oh chris money were even more could have been even more but as advice do not play when you are after party or with alchohol in your blood and also when you are up always get your money do not play for little bit more,first time when thought cross your mind that you should withdraw this is it get them out..about the way i did play there was not a specific way i alaways been good with numbers is just feeling inside...keep good winings...also bankroll never been big 80 euromax,was a time i had 5,70 euro and turn them to 500 euro casino must have been realy pissed with me...today lost 200 euro,,,but now have to look for a job as i lost my one recently...you know any electrician jobs in london :thumbsup:
If I did know any Electrician jobs i would be sure to give U the nod.
I will ask my Brother-in-law if he knows, and I'll get back to ya if anything.
U have a shocking profession I must say.
But my guess is U don't want to stay at OHMS much! lol :twisted:
thanks chris...yes is shocking indeed O0 O0 O0
Chris , maestro i am glad i have someone to look up to.
Here's my contribution:
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do not worry mr.mudiru as long as you are in positive site you are goooooooooooood :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: