This system is not mine but with the permission of hermes he said I can post it this is 95%of the secret he says, from his previous years he does not care which double street comes in after a loss in math range :1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th double streets .
street n. came / bet street
6 1
3 12
4 123
3 1234 win
5 1
2 12
5 123
2wins and so on, it is posted on VLS but the 5% imortality has not been revealed if we can work on this HERMES MIGHT JUST HELP US .THANK HERMES FOR LETTING ME POST THIS.W.
Quote from: warrior on Aug 15, 12:58 PM 2010
This system is not mine but with the permission of hermes he said I can post it this is 95%of the secret he says, from his previous years he does not care which double street comes in after a loss in math range :1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th double streets .
street n. came / bet street
6 1
3 12
4 123
3 1234 win
5 1
2 12
5 123
2wins and so on, it is posted on VLS but the 5% imortality has not been revealed if we can work on this HERMES MIGHT JUST HELP US .THANK HERMES FOR LETTING ME POST THIS.W.
Warrior,
Thanks for posting Hermes' system. I was wondering why he hadn't shared what I think is one of his best ideas. I was starting to get a bit of a complex thinking he didn't like us as this forum as much as those at the other.
Anyway, great system.
George
Why not post the full system? With the progression and the example? Or maybe Hermes didn't want that?
HE USED to bet every spin maybe this is what made imortal,or waiting for the first 3 spins to lose works good your only bet 3spins after the 3 losses little mor waiting time but saves on losses .
Thanks to Warrior for posting the 6x6 double streets modification. I try to put on every forum where I am a member some system of mine to get balance between give and get.
The 5% you don't know will not save you because the system lost even with 100% of the knowledge after 6 months of winning in row but you can still tweak it to possible method, if God help us.
This strategy presented by Warrior is circa 70 % away from the original version but is doing well according to warrior and also to my surprise!
Good progression would help.
Hermes
P.S. I was wrong with the 70% away!
Actually, he already tweaked it by mistake! Now it is 97% similar as the immortal 6x6. As we know there are not accidents. Everything what should happen will happen even if we don't know why. When we don't know why things happen we call it accident or event.
I told him if 5th double street comes bet 6,1,2,3,4, next came 3rd DS than bet 4,5,6,1,2 and so on... He is a smart ass.
Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Aug 15, 09:47 PM 2010
Thanks to Warrior for posting the 6x6 double streets modification. I try to put on every forum where I am a member some system of mine to get balance between give and get.
The 5% you don't know will not save you because the system lost even with 100% of the knowledge after 6 months of winning in row but you can still tweak it to possible method, if God help us.
This strategy presented by Warrior is circa 70 % away from the original version but is doing well according to warrior and also to my surprise!
Good progression would help.
Hermes
HERMES 70% thats alot maybe there is something that can be tweaked from the original version that your not seeing thankx w.
I know you are pushing me from beginning to say you the secret about the 6x6 you foxy shmoly. Are you a lawyer? You almost got it. Now is your turn!
You must be the whole day hanging on forum because I am not even finished with writing and you already answer.
Hermes
thats funny hermes but i wont be on the forum to much longer for the next 2 weeks going to soak up the hawaian sun my friend,warrior
I wish you happy holiday with those beautiful Hawaiian women. I wish I could be there with you. There must be some casinos? Try the new modification of 4x4 drive.
Your name warrior fits you exactly, you are tough guy, you never give up.
After you figured it out it needs only small cosmetic tough and there you are!
Cheers Hermes
Quote from: warrior on Aug 15, 12:58 PM 2010
This system is not mine but with the permission of hermes he said I can post it this is 95%of the secret he says, from his previous years he does not care which double street comes in after a loss in math range :1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th double streets .
street n. came / bet street
6 1
3 12
4 123
3 1234 win
5 1
2 12
5 123
2wins and so on, it is posted on VLS but the 5% imortality has not been revealed if we can work on this HERMES MIGHT JUST HELP US .THANK HERMES FOR LETTING ME POST THIS.W.
Thanks ,thats about as clear as mud :(
If you are going to post systems at least try and make them easy to understand what you posted make no sense at all ::)
Hi Moles,
I tried Hermes method quite a lot when it was first posted on vls. This is how it is played, very simple really.
Each double street is numbered so to avoid confusion:
1 - 6 is 1
7 - 12 is 2
13 -18 is 3
19 - 24 is 4
25 - 30 is 5
31 - 36 is 6
So if 23 spins then that is Double street 4
So you bet DS 4 next spin.
35 spins (DS 6)
Bet DS 6 + 4
12 spins (DS 2)
Bet DS 6 + 4 + 2
24 Win
Hope this makes sense. Basically its backing the last spun double streets. Hermes also added the twist in which he would wait virtual 3 spins where 3 different DS showed.
Such as:
13 (DS 3)
25 (DS 5)
2 (DS 1)
Now bet on DS 1 as there has been 3 alternating DS.
I found this very effective for a while and made good profits. I used to just go to the 4th level. It's when the 5th DS hits that it canes the BR.
A more conservative or intuitive bankroll is definately needed and I might revisit this as it is a nice one to play.
BW
warrior is busy with packing for holiday to Hawaii. What he want to show is that you play always the same formation no matter what DS comes.
1
12
123
1234
12345 it must come 6 different DS to lose but even than you can hit some. With progression which could be costly if played 5 spins in row.
Example:
5 1
3 12
2 123 you got it!
6 1
1 12 hit
4 1
Even when 6 different streets came you got a hit. But 1-2-3-4-5-6 would kill you:
1
2 1
3 12
4 123
5 1234
6 12345
The original progression:
1x$5 (+$25)
2x$10 (+$35)
3x25 (+$50)
4x80 (+$60)
5x500 (+$80) or economical:
1x$5 (+$25)
2x$5 (+$15)
3x$10 (+$15)
4x$30 (+$15)
5x$100 (-$65)
5x$100 (+$35) you have to win twice to get in plus! Zero always a problem.
If you cover it win nothing on 5th spin.
Still not complete "immortal" version but near to it.
Hermes
May I ask if the "immortal" version is in the money management or in the bet selection process?
Keel
In the bet selection.
Hermes
Quote from Hermes (from the other forum, VLS):
*It is possible that some lines are mixed together* ?
hello. . . . . .
why do you always start playing from 1Ã,° double street ?
example
1
12
123
1234
12345
can this change . . . .
look last number
for example the last number is 24, this is in 4Ã,° double Street
we can start playing from the 4Ã,° double Street . . .
4
45
456
4561
45612
Another example:
the last number is 12, this is in 2Ã,° double Street
we can start playing from 2Ã,° double street . . .
2
23
234
2345
23456
etc.
you can try ?
??? ??? ??? ???
why not? you must be flexible. many ways to start which streets you want but the main thing we are looking at is which works the best.
Right. . . . . first post but am so interested in this idea i felt i had to write something!
When I started reading this in the other forum I thought the idea to wait for 3 losses in seperate DS's, then bet on the LAST DS, was because the system works on the odds of all 6 DS's NOT coming up in a sequence of 6 spins or bets (not nessessarily in order tho) was very low.
i. e - the chances of all 6 DS's coming up in 6 spins was very low therefore we bet on the last DS, then the next last DS and so on.
If we simply bet DS 1, then DS 1 and 2, then DS1,2 and 3 etc we could miss out on the repeating DS's. Ball might land on DS6 - we bet DS 1. Then ball lands on DS6 again so we bet DS 1 and 2. . . . and potentially lose a chance to win. This part dosnt make any sense to me, maybe Im missing something.
Anyway, I tried the original idea out very quickly on a RNG. Only 200 spins but using $1, $1, $2, $6 and $36 as in the original progression I was up $68 and it didnt fail.
Then I started betting DS1, DS1 and 2, DS1,2 and 3. . . . . . . as has been suggested another 200 spins and it also didnt lose. So I dunno except that my sample size is waaaaaay too small.
Im also unsure of what to do after 5 losses. . . . . . cant bet on all DS's so i spose thats the end of that progression and its gotta start over again from 3 virtual losses. . . . .
I went back thru the thread and read this from Hermes - "I told him if 5th double street comes bet 6,1,2,3,4, next came 3rd DS than bet 4,5,6,1,2 and so on. . . He is a smart ass" and it dosnt make sense to me. does this mean we bet on the OTHER 5 DS's EXCEPT THE LAST ONE THAT CAME UP? It seems to contradict the original post and idea or is this the secret 5%?
But I do know Im pretty excited about this and will keep my eye on both threads and also do a lot more testing.
And thanks Hermes for allowing Warrior to post this (and to Warrior for posting it), its pretty cool!
Warrior is now soaking sore feet from standing in casinos with 18 years old women on Hawaii. It is pleasant but more expensive than gambling.
There are many ways to the heaven and hell. All approaches are valid but some will be more fortunate than others. We have to test which one.
We have yet next to immortal 3 approaches:
A/ 1-12-123-1234-12345. B/ came 6 bet 12345 C/ Follow the table e.g.
came bet
3
2 bet 3
5 bet 3,2
6 bet 3,2,5
6 bet 3,2,5,6 win
2 bet 6 and so on...but follow the table will lose always if no DS repeats!
There are not too many repeats on double streets therefore I like the A approach most.
There is an old system for retired people (approach B) to bet all the DS but not the last one with 3 steps progression but for short period only. After you make $10-$20 go home. Works well to enhance pension.
Secretary of His Majesty Warrior during his holiday
Hermes
Thanks for all your explainations guys :) ;D
Hopefully we can all here beat this most frustrating of gambling games :thumbsup:
Quote from: Hermes on Aug 17, 10:09 AM 2010
came bet
3
2 bet 3
5 bet 3,2
6 bet 3,2,5
6 bet 3,2,5,6 win
2 bet 6 and so on...but follow the table will lose always if no DS repeats!
I tested this for 312 spins and I stopped at +109 units.
I played with this progression:
1
11
111
3333
Total of 18 units.
I lost it 3 times. But still up 109 units.
Thanks for this Hermes and as you said, we need a repeater in 5 spins. After my research, I found that it does come an repeat very often.
With this progression I played, results:
+5 unit
+3 unit
0 unit
0 unit
So you win if you get a repeater in the first 2 spins.
That looks an interesting progression , i had been looking for a different progression for this great system , hermes progression for me is just a bit too aggressive. :)
Quote from: Kingspin on Aug 21, 06:33 AM 2010
That looks an interesting progression , I had been looking for a different progression for this great system , hermes progression for me is just a bit too aggressive. :)
Yes I don't like the aggressive ones either so I come up with this. Maybe we can find a better one :)
I tried it for real money with your "fripper progression" , the system i found becomes a severe grind,you could be sat hours upon hours in b&M. The best way i can see to play this is with bigger value chips say 50 unit chips then quit after 1 to 3 wins. On low value chips like Ã,£1 chips it's not a system i would play.
My progression, especially the the heavy one was a little bit too much even for me. What about Attila progression? Play last 4 (or 5?) DS all the time: 1111-2222-3333-4444 and so on.
Could be played as a hunter system where you wait until you see 4-5 spins single DS coming, no repeat, like 1-3-5-6-2. After that suppression should come repeats like 3-6-3-1-5-5 and so on.
Hermes
Whats the longest run of repeat DS's youve seen Hermes? Or anyone?
7 repeats in row in 4,356 spins.
Hermes
I tried this one several times, I didn't had much luck with it, had several times 123456 ranges.
Quote from: BBJ on Aug 24, 02:13 PM 2010
I tried this one several times, I didn't had much luck with it, had several times 123456 ranges.
Well, I have tested this alot and haven't seen 123456 yet so, it is very different from person to person.
BBJ you have to go more often to church. You pray a little, ha,ha,ha.
I got 3 times in my life gambling formation exact 123456, that's not that bad but because I pray a lot.
Hermes
So you call me a liar now ?
Not liar! God, you are easily offended! If you don't understand jokes go home and study jokes before you start play roulette because gambling often shows you a joker.
Hermes
Thanks Hermes
I only tested 200 spins betting the last DS to repeat but had all 6 DS's come up in a random sequence once. Using Hermes progression of 1,1,2,6,36 I was up about $80 then hit DS1,5,6,3,2 then 4 in a row.
So i figured it must be fairly common for all 6 DS's to come up in 6 spins and tried betting on 5 DS's except the last.
Just needed a progression to last 7 spins. . . .
Smee, did you tested it on RNGs? If you find a progression for 7 spins you never lose.
It is very difficult to get formation 1-2-3-4-5-6. You have to wait for at least 1000 spins.
Hermes
yeah Hermes - i tested it on RNG only. I dont particularly trust the RNG numbers are totally random but I cant find any other free roulette simulator.
So if we were betting AGAINST the DS's coming up 1,2,3,4,5,6 in a row, I think we would be doing something like this. . . .
Wait till the first DS comes up then -
DS1 DS2 DS3 DS4 DS5 DS6
Bet1 1 1 1 1 1
Bet2 6 6 6 6 6
Bet3 36 36 36 36 36
Bet4 216 216 216 216 216
Bet5 1296 1296 1296 1296 1296
Bet6 7776 7776 7776 7776 7776
So youd need a total of 93311 units total! - not for me.
I think thats correct although it is only 6 bets not 7. Please correct me if im wrong. Theres gotta be a better progression.
Progression is OK but RNG testings are sheet. You should know it. On Internet go to RANDOM.ORG that's random tester gives you perfect roulette numbers. If you want to test US roulette put 37 #s (0-37) and count the 37 as 00.
RNG software find out quickly what are you doing and then counterpart! As professional you should know better but don't worry you are not alone. There are a few which do it again and again and never learn.
1
12
123
1234
12345 - 6 ?
12345 - 6 ?
Did you bet like this? For sure not! Give me the numbers sequence and I tell you.
Only if two 6 in row come on spin 5 and 6 you lose, no other way.
Hermes
Well said !
Cheating roulette RNG
Also know as - Ripp Off Roulette
Robbing Number Generator
Retards Roulette
Rigged Number Generator.
Roulette Numpty's Game.
Really No Go Roulette..
Most rng software from what i see is intelligent and highly complex in that it can easily manipulate bet's to it's advantage. The option to manipulate bet's to loose is bedded into the software.
Today, I went on online casino Tropez and checked a system on French roulette just for fun. You can see how the formations change in seconds! For about 10 spins I didn't bet only collected numbers it was clear chop. After I started to bet on red came 9 blacks and after 2 red again 8 blacks! Where the come from? I played Fibs progression and always caught on last spin. If I would play real it would come 12 or 15 blacks in row.
RNG gamblers are on the same level as slot machines gamblers.
The random.org gives close real combinations. Second best after live wheels, even better than XR! I test even craps on it.
Hermes
Yep I agree totally.
RNG Roulette ? Same as Playin Slots. Simple.
I WANT TO BRING THIS THREAD BACK LETS MAKE THIS WORK.
Thanx warrior :thumbsup:
Whats U're personal final descion on the order to bet ?
1
2
3
4
5
Or from last winning point IE
3
4
5
6
1
2
And repeats ?
Cheers bud :thumbsup:
Quote from: Twisteruk on Sep 17, 03:45 AM 2010
Thanks warrior :thumbsup:
what's U're personal final descion on the order to bet ?
1
2
3
4
5
Or from last winning point IE
3
4
5
6
1
2
And repeats ?
Cheers bud :thumbsup:
I like to wait for the first 2 to miss then go in 1 2 3 4 5 6
Quote from: warrior on Sep 17, 08:20 AM 2010
I like to wait for the first 2 to miss then go in 1 2 3 4 5 6
soz im being a bit dim lol :-[
if ure going in 1 2 3 4 5 6
what do the 1st two bets have to miss before you start ?
cheers :thumbsup:
from 3000 live spins the first does not hit very often,same with the second and its just a way to safe bank roll.
Ok Bud :thumbsup:
I will give it a whirl with that in mind !
The 2 first bets before betting must be different not a streak. I would wait 3 spins and then bet 123456.
Warrior how was it on Hawaii? Hot women or water? Do they have casinos?
Hermes
Hello Hermes. . . :)
When you say you wait for three nubers before commencing the 123456. . . What numbers must not be in them three numbers before you start. I have followed this system across the forums and like it a lot. Cheers
Quote from: Hermes on Sep 17, 04:35 PM 2010
The 2 first bets before betting must be different not a streak. I would wait 3 spins and then bet 123456.
Warrior how was it on Hawaii? Hot women or water? Do they have casinos?
Hermes
HAWAII was hot thanks for asking ,so wait for three different DS then bet 123456 correct hermes? ,this system save my ass i was playing something different was not winning i switched to this help me recoup a few dollars im not sure if im doing it right.warrior
34
1
22 TRIGGER
10 L BET DS 1
35L BET DS 1-2
6W 1-2-3 IGET A WIN IS THIS THE WAY HERMES?
Quote from: warrior on Sep 17, 08:26 PM 2010
34
1
22 TRIGGER
10 L BET DS 1
35L BET DS 1-2
6W 1-2-3 IGET A WIN IS THIS THE WAY HERMEs?
How could you win? You are cheating warrior! They will trow you out of the casino.
6
1
4 OK 3 different DS that's trigger to bet 12345. Next bet 4DS/1 unit
2 loss 4-2 bet 1u/1u next spin
1 loss 4-2-1 bet 2u/2u/2u next spin
4 win reset to 1 unit but wait for 3 different DS (no repeater) as trigger to bet.
Hermes
Do you play until 4 Ds or 5 Ds?
THANX HERMES i will try that ,your funny throw me out of the casino
When they throw you out of casino is never funny for you. Lucky didn't happened to me but saw a drunk and noisy when won a bet and landed on street.
weddings, 4 is economical 5 is survival and 6 is kamikaze. I played 6 all the time but little bit different strategy. Bring parachute to casino and you can play 6 spins.
Here my results and the way I played, I hope I did it correctly:
31 -
22 -
23 -
26 -
34 - 1u on DS6
0 L 1u on DS6 again
13 L 1u on DS3 and 6
19 L 2u on DS3, 4 and 6
29 L 6u on DS3,4, 5 and 6
31 W
23 -
15 - 1u on DS3
0 L 1u on DS3 again
21 L 1u on DS4 and 4
4 L 2u on DS3, 4 and 1
19 W
17 -
30 - 1u on DS5
3 L 1u on DS5 and 1
19 L 2u on DS5, 1 and 4
25 W
16 -
11 - 1u on DS2
10 W
33 -
25 - 1u on DS5
28 W
20 -
1 - 1u on DS1
14 L 1u on DS1 and 3
10 L 2u on DS1, 3 and 2
5 W
13 -
19 - 1u on DS4
22 W
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You played it almost correctly but there was 4 DS before therefore you should start to bet when zero came and if you win don't count the last winning number into the waiting period.
I would wait for 3 new different DS as a trigger to bet. Eg. 22-24-36-14 the 22,24 is 4DS you start to count from 36,14 and wait for one more diff. DS.
Hermes
Some new results, I don't know if I can call them good results:
12 -
25 -
12 -
7 -
2 -
31 -
14 - 1u on DS3
30 L 1u on DS3 and 5
30 W
27 -
11 -
15 -
34 - 1u on DS6
20 L 1u on DS6 and 4
11 L 2u on DS6, 4 and 2
4 L 6u on DS6, 4, 2 and 1
11 W
32 -
17 -
20 - 1u on DS4
31 L 1u on DS4 and 6
20 W
7 -
14 -
12 -
8 -
18 -
30 - 1u on DS5
25 W
8 -
6 -
35 - 1u on DS6
0 L 1u on DS6 again
9 L 1u on DS6 and 2
28 L 2u on DS6, 2 and 5
16 L 6u on DS6, 2, 5 and 3
22 L 36u on DS6, 2, 5, 3 and 4
5 L
14 -
27 -
20 - 1u on DS4
9 L 1u on DS4 and 2
23 W
24 -
22 -
4 -
7 -
16 - 1u on DS3
21 L 1u on DS3 and 4
10 L 2u on DS3, 4 and 2
25 L 6u on DS3, 4, 2 and 5
25 W
-------------
BBJ where do you pick the numbers on cemetery? RNGs?
Hermes
Live wheel from Celtic Casino (Visionary iGaming)
I just played at Dublinbet, live wheel, table one:
18 -
13 -
29 - 1u on DS5
7 L 1u on DS2 and 5
6 L 2u on DS1, 2 and 5
3 W
0 -
16 -
20 -
9 - 1u on DS2
4 L 1u on DS1 and 2
17 L 2u on DS1,2 and 3
16 W
17 -
14 -
1 -
30 -
19 - 1u on DS4
21 W
31 -
18 -
30 -
7 - 1u on DS2
12 W
35 -
13 -
23 - 1u on DS4
13 L 1u on DS3 and 4
1 L 2u on DS1, 3 and 4
24 W
28 -
31 -
27 -
14 - 1u on DS3
36 L 1u on DS3 and 6
30 L 2u on DS3, 5 and 6
15 W
---------------
And I tried Celtic Casino again, live wheel:
36 -
0 -
22 -
35 -
31 -
25 -
5 -
2 -
29 -
29 -
6 -
30 -
9 - 1u on DS 2
31 L 1u on DS 2 and 6
14 L 2u on DS 2, 3 and 6
5 L 6u on DS 1, 2, 3 and 6
32 W
19 -
10 -
35 - 1u on DS6
20 L 1u on DS4 and 6
4 L 2u on DS1, 4 and 6
2 W
20 -
12 -
28 - 1u on DS5
21 L 1u on DS4 and 5
15 L 2u on DS3, 4 and 5
35 L 6u on DS3, 4, 5 and 6
16 W
23 -
19 -
20 -
18 -
33 -
26 - 1u on DS5
1 L 1u on DS1 and 5
14 L 2u on DS1, 3 and 5
32 L 6u on DS1, 3, 5 and 6
35 W
10 -
21 -
21 -
36 -
32 -
6 -
2 -
7 -
10 -
26 -
7 -
12 -
35 -
34 -
18 -
16 -
36 -
10 -
15 - 1u on DS3
36 L 1u on DS3 and 6
23 L 2u on DS3, 4 and 6
2 L 6u on DS1, 3, 4 and 6
21 W
8 -
31 -
0 -
31 -
15 - 1u on DS3
26 L 1u on DS3 and 5
8 L 2u on DS2, 3 and 5
2 L 6u on DS1, 2, 3 and 5
19 L 36u on DS1, 2, 3, 4 and 5
19 W
------------------------
I'm done with Visionary iGaming (Celtic and Black Orchid) with testing this system, waste of time I think, I try some more with Dublinbet, seems I get better results there.
I tried once more Dublinbet, live wheel, table one:
5 -
25 -
26 -
2 -
21 -
36 - 1u on DS6
9 L 1u on DS2 and 6
35 W
26 -
26 -
24 -
35 -
22 -
30 - 1u on DS5
4 L 1u on DS1 and 5
2 W
27 -
18 -
21 - 1u on DS4
20 W
36 -
25 -
30 -
33 -
2 -
26 - 1u on DS5
4 - 1u on DS1 and 5
28 W
22 -
12 -
9 -
33 -
7 -
8 -
35 -
1 -
15 - 1u on DS3
15 W
29 -
31 -
31 -
28 -
29 -
9 -
9 -
3 -
31 -
34 -
25 -
29 -
9 -
11 -
8 -
35 -
4 -
4 -
18 -
10 -
23 - 1u on DS4
22 - W
---------------
BBJ your numbers tell you to bet every spin because lot of repeats! In repeats are money.
Hermes
But are the repeats always coming ?
>:(
hi everyone
i play a slight adaptation of this system with 300€ profit so far.
about 12 sessions with 1€ chips.
i will keep testing till it fits.
good one
thx 4 everything
;)
albertojonas, tell me what is the slight adaptation?
Thanks Hermes
Hello Fripper,
I'm new to this forum and hope you can clairfy your progression. You said that your 1st spin would be +5, second would be +3, third is 0, fourth is 0.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't it look like this:
1 ---------$5 win - $1 bet = +4
11 --------$5 win - ($2+$1 from previous loss) $3 bet = +2
111 -------$5 win - ($3+$3 from previous loss) $6 bet = -1
3333-------$5 win - ($12+$6 from previous loss) $18 bet = - 13
Please let me know your thoughts.
Cheers,
JK
Hello Hermes,
Can you please confirm which strategy you usually use?
1
1,2
1,2,3
1,2,3,4
1,2,3,4,5
OR
Last landed DS 5
5
Second DS 3
5,3
Third DS 4
5,3,4
Fourth DS 1
5,3,4,1
Hope to hear back from you soon. Thank you for your time and patience.
Cheers,
JK
ok
so this is how i play it.
wait 'till 5 DS without repeat.
place bet like your system 6x6 but with kind of barracuda prog:
1
22
333
being the first bet on the 5th non repeating ds
if win:
+5
+7
+4
if Lost three bets
put +1 in all previous plus start new prog but now starting with 3 chips
4443
55566
666999
add this way till you ahead of ur starting bankroll. (win 2 or 3 times at the largest stack)
may seem extreme but i started with 3 BR of 150 (450) and now have 890.
W=+440 (almost doubled 3 BR)
would like to pass some tests on this, but don't have bot or program.
thx in advance
;-) thx hermes
Jk1m I play the first example: 1-12-123-1234-12345 and 12345 again.
albertojonas you are a cyclone! You don't take no for answer.
I thought that it could be played also with Attila progression.
Alberto could you make a short play example with the progression you play? I didn't caught the second part. Ca. 20 spins or so.
Wait for 5 single DS is good idea because than comes bunch of repeats.
Thanks Hermes
Hello albertojonas,
Thank you for the response. Waiting for the 5 DS's not to repeat is a very good idea and will save potential progressions in the long run.
I don't understand your method of bets though. That seems like a pretty aggressive progression. Do you suggest another conservative method that does not require a big bank roll.
Thanks again for your insight!
- JK
Hello Hermes,
Thank you for the reply back. I have tried the 1,12,123,1234,12345 method and it works well! By incorporating albertojonas's idea of waiting for 5 DS's not to repeat will bring funds in steadily. :)
What is your way of betting? My preference is the low stakes, not really the aggressive high stakes kind of guy. hahah.
Thanks again for your advice Hermes!
- JK
came / bet
11
36
20
17
2-----Trigger (5 dif DS)bet 1(1) L
26 2(2,5) L
36 3(1,5,6)
5 w net + 4
29
27
32
18
28
25
31
22
36
8
34
17
19
1-----Trig Bet 1(1) L
36 2(1,6) L
12 3(1,6,2)
1 w net +4 (+8)
16
20-----Trig Bet 1(4) L
0 2(4) L nevermind the zero just get on with prog, it exists anyways. . .
15 3(4,3) L
35 4(4,3,6) + 3(6)--paralel prog starting at 3 units +1 unit at previous DS
34 w net +16 (+24)
14
21
5
3
3
1
23
31
31
8
36
10 -begin of trig
34
0
16
19-----Trig Bet 1(4) L
6 2(4,1) L
28 3(4,1,5) L
8 4(4,1,5) + 3(2) L if hit on 1st prog net=-5 | on 2nd prog net=-11
36 5(4,1,5) + 6(2,6)
19 w on 1st (net=-26) keep betting barracuda 6(4,1,5) + 9(2,6,4)
11 w (net=-36) 7(4,1,5) + 10(2,6,4) + 9(4)
19 w profit 60 RESET all operations
24 and go home or get greedy and keep 8(4,1,5) + 11(2,6,4) + 18(4,4) etc,etc. . .
10
8
9
22
11
27 HOPE IT HELLPS (THX AGAIN WARRIOR, FRIPPER, HERMES)
@albertojonas:
Thank you for the response. I will try that out. BTW, which system do you usually use and recommend?
Cheers!
JK
Thanks Alberto I will check it. Very busy in present time. No time to go to toilet!
Hermes
Can you explain your progression Alberto. . . I understand the first bit but not the second bit. . . Thanks
Alberto, I checked the game example you put here. You was lucky that you hit the 4th DS, otherwise could be disaster. What about the 4th wouldn't come? I would call your progression reinforcement progression.
You would be much better on if you would play 1-12-123-1234-12345 instead of last coming strategy. 1234 would handle the whole game. What about forget the 5th attempt (12345) and bet only until 1234 with your reinforcement progression?
Thanks Hermes
i will try then post.
thx
:o
:wink:
gorgeous
Hermes, i must say you did it.
tried this way. this needs more testing over the long run, but with this new mod it did it again.
wait for 5 non repeating ds (maybe later will upgrade this on streets)
start bets upfront last coming DS. (as the immortal rule)
original progression:
1
1
2
6
36
now after 2 miss start bets over 1st progression on the repeatin dozen
3
3
6
18
105
They will match somewhere
note: if ZERO comes jump one step over progression
+1083 so far
Hey cyclone, could you make again a small example of play, some 20 spins like before. We are visual people and like to see things moving.
Good job.
Thanks Hermes
surprise. . . >:(
lost 3 times. but i am positive that this is one of the best sistems out there.
needs final tweek. i have experimentes a lot.
- wait 3 dif ds play last coming with 5 steps prog.
- wait 3 dif ds play starting on ds1, always till ds5 with same prog.
i believe this last aproach is dificult to understand. what is the logic of it? its tha same as betting any order of 5ds with the same progression.
could be: ds1,2,3,4,5 or 2,3,4,5,6 or even 5,3,2,6,1 etc etc any
for this last aproach we must add the knowledge of this 666 devil'6 game
this is a trends game. must go with the flow.
so what about record 24 spins - see what trends less and more, cross it off and make the sequence without the proper less trend dozen?
ex:
last 24 spins reveal:
ds1 = 2
ds2 = 5
ds3 =8
ds4=5
ds5=1
ds6=3
so cross of bottom and top ds5 and ds3
it is ds1 wich is out of our progression.
4-6-2-3-5 this is an example | i think it will perform.
________________________
i would like hermes to reveal the immortal "secret"
________________________
maybe the intersection of two selections can secure the system even more
with the help of this great thinkers.
too bad i only test by and and on previous sessions.
zero always a problem
so i track zero and secure my bet since i am on the third level, causing not severe damage on profits
tonight i will test my refined aproach.
post some tests please
Alberto you are genius! You revealed the immortal strategy right now!!! Mark last 18 numbers and start to bet from the best to the worst. In your example it would be:
3
32
324
3246 Secure zero after bet 3.
32461
324615.
If two DS the same count take the further back one as first (#2, #4).
Second strategy would be cross best and worst and bet the same way like above the rest 4.
2
24
246
2461. Basta!
Cheers Hermes
tests please
i just think we risk too many chips for little profit.
but still perfected the system
thx hermes
;)
another profitable variation is count 24 spins and bet the most common 4 DS for the next 12 spins.
then if ahead switch for the most uncommon from the same previous 24 spins.
its up to you.
nice aproach constant winnings
cheers
you waited for 3 or 5 different DS to appear before betting?
waited 3DS
. . .
but five is good when you play like:
came /bet
1
2
3
4
5 bet 5
3 bet 5 3
2 bet 5 3 2
6 bet 5 3 2 6
etc
4 bet 5 3 2 6 4
I marked 18 spins from the score board (no time loss) and bet the next 18 spins and repeated the same with the new 18 numbers. For sure 24 would be more secure. I didn't wait for 3-5 singles. After hit took the hit number for next count (could be a streak?).
Hermes
you mean every spin check the last 18 numbers play from most hit to least? restart upon win? i had a few sessions that exceeds the 5th progression.
post an example
there must be something you r not doin right
what mod do you play.
post your doubts weddings
;-)
Quote from: albertojonas on Sep 24, 03:47 PM 2010
surprise. . . >:(
lost 3 times. but I am positive that this is one of the best systems out there.
needs final tweek. I have experimented a lot.
- wait 3 dif ds play last coming with 5 steps prog.
- wait 3 dif ds play starting on ds1, always till ds5 with same prog.
i believe this last aproach is dificult to understand. what is the logic of it? its tha same as betting any order of 5ds with the same progression.
could be: ds1,2,3,4,5 or 2,3,4,5,6 or even 5,3,2,6,1 etc etc any
for this last aproach we must add the knowledge of this 666 devil'6 game
this is a trends game. must go with the flow.
....
....
post some tests please
i tested this aproach/mod it fails over and over again. After many days of success.
i smell the flaw
see the test...
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spin ds nr. bet 26.09.2010
24 4
25 5 Spielbank Wiesbaden TB3 Automatenspiel
15 3 1
14 2 12
26 5 123
17 3 W
13 3
12 2
24 4 1
24 4 12
9 2 W
5 1
11 2
7 2
31 6
28 5 1
32 6 12
3 1 W
6 1
23 4
18 3 1
0 0 12
9 2 W
35 6
24 4
36 6
11 2 1
20 4 12
28 5 123
15 3 W
26 5
31 6
10 2 1
24 4 12
30 5 123
30 5 1234
24 4 W
22 4
30 5
9 2 1
13 3 12
16 3 123
4 1 W
11 2
35 6
6 1 1
33 6 12
30 5 123
0 0 1234
14 3 W
7 2
12 2
6 1
33 6 1
27 5 12
11 2 W
33 6
2 1
28 5 1
6 1 W
1 1
33 6
19 4 1
18 3 12
10 2 W
25 5
35 6
15 3 1
16 3 12
36 6 123
30 5 1234
33 6 12345
36 6 L neg 213 units to recoup, bet again 12345 220units per ds
23 4 or dont . Just wait for new trigger and start again, just lost 1 of 5 br of 220 units
35 6
1 1 1
5 1 w
12 2
3 1
7 2
1 1
0 0 if u dont reset count 4 trigger when 0 comesââ,¬Â¦ just do it or u will loose again as stated
32 6 1
36 6 12
26 5 123
22 4 1234 trig with reset at 0
0 0 12345 1
0 0 lost again 12
12 2 w
22 4
3 1
16 3 1
9 2 12
26 5 123
30 6 1234
16 3 w
33 6
31 6
13 3
15 3
33 6
12 2 1
35 6 12
28 5 123
30 5 1234
9 2 w
16 3
27 5
19 4 1
35 6 12
19 4 123
35 6 1234
30 5 12345
15 3 w
29 5
16 3
10 2 1
29 5 12
31 6 123
22 4 1234
25 5 12345
0 0 LOST AGAIN
4 1
19 4
3 1
so Hermes, think we are one step closer to the fringe,
we just have to abandon this mod
according to one of your later posts
cheers mate
Quote from: Hermes on Sep 25, 01:57 PM 2010
Alberto you are genius! You revealed the immortal strategy right now!!! Mark last 18 numbers and start to bet from the best to the worst. In your example it would be:
3
32
324
3246 Secure zero after bet 3.
32461
324615.
If two DS the same count take the further back one as first (#2, #4).
Second strategy would be cross best and worst and bet the same way like above the rest 4.
2
24
246
2461. Basta!
Cheers Hermes
must test it before with two different mods
1st
bet to repeat from trigger --- example
came ds / bet
2
3
5 / bet 5
2 / bet 5,2
3 / bet 5,2,3
4 / bet 5,2,3,4
6 / bet 5,2,3,4,6
if came 1 you lost (rare i think)
2nd aproach
bet from 3rd dif. DS forward linear motion
example:
came ds / bet
2
3
5 / bet 5
2 / bet 5,6
3 / bet 5,6,1
4 / bet 5,6,1,2
6 / w
etc
(of course if instead of ds6 it came ds3 then ds4, like penultimate, u would loose again)
thats it
still the final mod and i really trust the best one, remains untested.
too much work to do
then maybe we can present a final version of it
what you think about Hermes, warrior, Twist...
??
Quote from: albertojonas on Sep 27, 10:22 AM 2010
must test it before with two different mods
1st
bet to repeat from trigger --- example
came ds / bet
2
3
5 / bet 5
2 / bet 5,2
3 / bet 5,2,3
4 / bet 5,2,3,4
6 / bet 5,2,3,4,6
if came 1 you lost (rare I think)
2nd aproach
bet from 3rd dif. DS forward linear motion
example:
came ds / bet
2
3
5 / bet 5
2 / bet 5,6
3 / bet 5,6,1
4 / bet 5,6,1,2
6 / w
etc
(of course if instead of ds6 it came ds3 then ds4, like penultimate, you would lose again)
that's it
still the final mod and I really trust the best one, remains untested.
too much work to do
then maybe we can present a final version of it
what you think about Hermes, warrior, Twist...
??
sorry bud i gave up on this one.the immortal will never be reveald
Quote from: warrior on Sep 27, 10:35 AM 2010
sorry bud I gave up on this one.the immortal will never be reveald
sorry mate but i think it is unvealed
;-)
Quote from: Hermes on Sep 25, 01:57 PM 2010
Alberto you are genius! You revealed the immortal strategy right now!!! Mark last 18 numbers and start to bet from the best to the worst. In your example it would be:
3
32
324
3246 Secure zero after bet 3.
32461
324615.
If two DS the same count take the further back one as first (#2, #4).
Second strategy would be cross best and worst and bet the same way like above the rest 4.
2
24
246
2461. Basta!
Cheers Hermes
At least Warrior this is a fine aproach to it.
do not give up mate
test nr.1
with 1st sugested aproach
just i did not secure zero instead i divided the chips from the progression by the ds....
got lucky with this but maybe the doing both things is the best regarding ZEROGREEN
and so it can be played on american roulette also.
again...
the test itself
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26.09.2010
Spielbank Wiesbaden
TB3 Automatenspiel
spin/ DS / bet
24 4
25 5
15 3 3
14 2 32
26 5 325
17 3 W
13 3
12 2
24 4 4
24 4 w
9 2
5 1
11 2
7 2
31 6
28 5 5
32 6 56
3 1 561
6 1 w
23 4
18 3
0 0
9 2
35 6
24 4 4
36 6 46
11 2 462
20 4 w
28 5
15 3
26 5
31 6 6
10 2 62
24 4 624
30 5 6245 should cover zero here
30 5 w
24 4
22 4
30 5
9 2 2
13 3 23
16 3 w
4 1
11 2
35 6 6
6 1 61
33 6 w
30 5
0 0
14 3
7 2
12 2
6 1
33 6 6
27 5 65
11 2 652
33 6 w
2 1
28 5
6 1
1 1
33 6
19 4 4
18 3 43
10 2 432
25 5 4325 should cover zero here
35 6 43256
15 3 w
16 3
36 6
30 5 5
33 6 56
36 6 w
23 4
35 6
1 1 1
5 1 w
12 2
3 1
7 2
1 1
0 0
32 6
36 6
26 5
22 4 4 1u
0 0 4 2u
0 0 4 6u
12 2 42 6units each should cover zero here
22 4 w extra profit here
3 1
16 3
9 2 2
26 5 25
30 6 256
16 3 2563 should cover zero here
33 6 w
31 6
13 3
15 3
33 6
12 2 2
35 6 26
28 5 265
30 5 w
9 2
16 3
27 5 5
19 4 54
35 6 546
19 4 w
35 6
30 5
15 3 3
29 5 35
16 3 w
10 2
29 5
31 6 6
22 4 64
25 5 645 2units each
0 0 645 8units each **should ...zero
4 1 6451 45 units each
19 4 w more extra profit
3 1
seems good...
now i go to hospital
have something wrong with my lungs
bye folks
Quote from: albertojonas on Sep 27, 10:22 AM 2010
must test it before with two different mods
2nd aproach
bet from 3rd dif. DS forward linear motion
example:
came ds / bet
2
3
5 / bet 5
2 / bet 5,6
3 / bet 5,6,1
4 / bet 5,6,1,2
6 / w
etc
(of course if instead of ds6 it came ds3 then ds4, like penultimate, you would lose again)
??
here is the test for this one too...
(almost testing the final aproach)
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26.09.2010
Bet
spin DS
24 4
25 5 3
15 3 34
14 2 345
26 5 w
17 3
13 3
12 2 4
24 4 w
24 4
9 2
5 1
11 2
7 2
31 6 5
28 5 56
32 6 561
3 1 w
6 1
23 4
18 3
0 0
9 2
35 6 4
24 4 45
36 6 456
11 2 w
20 4
28 5
15 3
26 5 6
31 6 61
10 2 612
24 4 6123
30 5 61234
30 5 w
24 4
22 4
30 5 2
9 2 23
13 3 w
16 3
4 1
11 2 6
35 6 61
6 1 w
33 6
30 5
0 0
14 3
7 2
12 2
6 1 6
33 6 61
27 5 612
11 2 w
33 6
2 1
28 5
6 1
1 1
33 6 4
19 4 45
18 3 456
10 2 w
25 5
35 6
15 3
16 3
36 6 5
30 5 56
33 6 w
36 6
23 4
35 6 1
1 1 w
5 1
12 2
3 1
7 2
1 1
0 0
32 6
36 6
26 5 4
22 4 45
0 0 456
0 0 4561
12 2 w
22 4
3 1
16 3 2
9 2 23
26 5 234
30 6 w
16 3
33 6
31 6
13 3
15 3
33 6 2
12 2 23
35 6 234
28 5 2345
30 5 w
9 2
16 3
27 5 4
19 4 45
35 6 w
19 4
35 6
30 5
15 3
29 5
16 3 2
10 2 23
29 5 234
31 6 w
22 4
25 5
0 0
4 1 4
19 4 45
3 1 w
22 4
31 6
0 0
18 3
17 3
29 5
20 4
0 0
5 1
0 0
13 3
31 6 3
17 3 34
2 1 345
3 1 w
21 4
7 2
2 1
5 1
13 3 6
32 6 w
32 6
5 1
36 6 5
26 5 56
8 2 561
23 4 w
31 6
19 4
20 4
10 2 1
4 1 12
11 2 123
16 3 1234
36 6 w
21 4
9 2
15 3
17 3
22 4 2
11 2 23
31 6 w
7 2
13 3
30 5 2
9 2 23
15 3 234
27 5 2345
34 6 23456
33 6 w if it came the sleeper ds1 we would have lost
17 3
30 5
Quote from: Hermes on Sep 25, 01:57 PM 2010
Alberto you are genius! You revealed the immortal strategy right now!!! Mark last 18 numbers and start to bet from the best to the worst. In your example it would be:
3
32
324
3246 Secure zero after bet 3.
32461
324615.
If two DS the same count take the further back one as first (#2, #4).
Second strategy would be cross best and worst and bet the same way like above the rest 4.
2
24
246
2461. Basta!
Cheers Hermes
ok if the so told immortal strategy is this...
i did another test
marked the previous 29 spins. why 18 or 24?
and then i bet the new found sequence for how many more spins?
then i count again?
please enlighten..
just check the attachment pls
cheers, Alberto
hi albertojonas
i was following your posts for this system. have you given up this system since there is no post and also hermes left it.
thanks
catalyst
just put it on pause...
get back to it
if anyone helps...
There is not too much to change on the strategy you bet immortal (starts with the best and ends with the worst, quasi elimination method) or standard method:
1
12
123
1234
12345
That's it.
Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Oct 26, 02:54 PM 2010
There is not too much to change on the strategy you bet immortal (starts with the best and ends with the worst, quasi elimination method) or standard method:
1
12
123
1234
12345
That's it.
Hermes
Are we awakenig this monster here?
let's go
Sorry Alberto, I am afraid we hit the wall with that one but I am working on other 3 systems now which are very promising. Lately I pick up the ideas almost from the air around me.
The last one is Time Vortex, betting 2 double streets. Very promising but not finished with tests yet.
Cheers Hermes
Care to brainstorm with us about it hermes?
Time vortex lol :D The names of the systems are getting real nuts lately!! :twisted:
Could anyone who has played with this system or knows how this system works provide with me a slow and aggressive progression for this system? I tried to come up with one myself but fell short.
The one I developed was 1-1 3-2 6-3 12-4 24-5 48-6 but I would be losing ALOT more than I'm winning. Maybe I need to go higher with the progression?
anybody having success with this sytem
Hi.
Can someone that know this system explain the rules and progression clear.
Thanks.
Jon
Or a progression to play with this system.
Jon
I have read this tread 100 times but i dont get the system clear and what progression to play.
What was the working.
1
12
123
1234
12345
and so on or the other.
Please help.
Jon
Hi Jon,
I would use this one ( but start from bet two DS):
1. 2DS x 1 -2 +4
2. 3DS x 2 -8 +4
3. 4DS x 5 -28 +2
4. 5DS x 30 -178 +2
And about the bet selection , maybe the best is this one:
wait some spins(8-10 spins)and mark the worst(cold), and the best DSs (middle hot and hot).
then start to bet the two most active(hot), then add another active one Ds, and so on ....
but you keep update the most active ones...
Ex:
DS
3
6
5
5
4
3
6
6 first bet on DSs 6 and DS 5
4 L1 ,next on DSs 6,5,4
2 L2 , bet on DSs 6,5,4,3 ( DS 1 and 2 cold )
2 L3, bet on DSs 6,5,4,3,2
5 W
Of corse no matter what bet selection you will use ,
still can lose sometimes ( how often ? i don t know)
Maybe Hermes have a better bet selection....
cheers
Another example:
DS
2
2
5
3
1
6
4
4 bet DSs 2 and 4
3 L1 bet DSs 2,4,3 ( now DS 3 is active also, hit twice)
5 L2 bet DSs 2,4,3,5 ( DSs 1 ad 6 cold)
2 W
Thanks.
I got it now. :)
Jon
Yes, it is the best solution to play the favorites say after 12 spins but you will lose sometimes. It is not a Holy Molly.
Hermes
Thanks:)
Jon
Another bet selection and progression for this system(double streets):
Progression(for online Casinos)
1. 0,10 x 1Ds -0,10 +0,50
2. 0,20 x 2Ds -0,50 +0,70
3. 0,50 x 3Ds -2 +1
4. 1,50 x 4Ds -8 +1
5. 10 x 5Ds -58 +2
Wait 3 or 4 virtual Ls (or WLLLL)when bet virtual the last and the second last Ds,
then start to bet the last, if lose bet the last and second last,
if lose bet the last, sec. last and third, if lose bet the last the sec. last
the third and fourth, if lose bet the last ,sec. last, third, fourth and fifth.
Ex ( 4 Ls from last + second last):
DS
4 virtual play
2 bet 2 and 4
4 W(virtual) bet 4 and 2
5 L bet 5 and 4
2 L bet 2 and 5
6 L bet 6 and 2
4 L(trigger 4 Ls) bet for real 4
5 L1 bet 5 and 4
2 L2 bet 2,5,4
5 W(hit the second last) wait again trigger, ....but .....
....Also can wait trigger 4 virtual Ls from any combination of
the last, the second last, third, fourth( Ex. the last +third, or second + third)
If for example have trigger 4 Ls from track the Lw s for second + third, first
we bet on the second , if lose bet the second + third, if lose bet the
second+third+last, if lose bet same +fourth, if lose bet same +fourth+fifth.
A/ If you start firm formation:
B
BB
BBB
BBBB
BBBBB you lose very seldom mostly when on the end zero comes. Must come 6th DS 5 times.
B/ Or play the best DS, second best DS, third best DS and so on after 12/18 spins of virtual playing.
Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Apr 23, 03:39 PM 2011
A/ If you start firm formation:
B
BB
BBB
BBBB
BBBBB you lose very seldom mostly when on the end zero comes. Must come 6th DS 5 times.
B/ Or play the best DS, second best DS, third best DS and so on after 12/18 spins of virtual playing.
Hermes
I THINK THIS IS STILL A EXELENT SYSTEM, can be used while waiting for triggers .
I'm over here to...
Hope we can put some life back into 6x6.......
Quote from: amk on Jun 16, 02:21 PM 2011
I'm over here to...
Hope we can put some life back into 6x6.......
AMK give me the basics of the method maybe I can give it a twist to make it stronger. I have a method for lines called PHASE 3. So I am not a stranger to that part of the layout.
Here you are Johnlegend. Enjoy tweaking.
GLC now it is one of my lower end systems. But you guys can make it still shinny. The progression is the culprit.
I have a few killers but 4x4 Drive, Bermuda and Time interruption are also awesome systems.
Hermes
Hello JohnLegend,
I felt Hermes could best explain it in his own words. Below you can read about the method.
I would like to add that I came across a DS method which if played HIT AND RUN could perform great as well. I played it for two hours straight and then lost, this is before understanding HIT AND RUN... It is similar to 6x6 in concept... I hope you don't mind Hermes...
1) Wait until three different double streets appear in a row
2) Bet 1 unit on all 3 DS that appeared
3) If you win with next spin game ends, win is 3 units
4) If a fourth DS appears place 3 units on all 4 DS, win is 3 units
5) If fifth DS appears place 23 units on all 5 DS plus 5 units on the zero, win is 3 units, if zero hits win is 45 units.
Total units to play 135, win per game 3 units...
In short we are playing against 6 DS appearing consecutively without a repeat, there is a 99.83% chance of winning...
HERMES 6X6 Method
Warrior is busy with packing for holiday to Hawaii. What he want to show is that you play always the same formation no matter what DS comes.
1
12
123
1234
12345 it must come 6 different DS to lose but even than you can hit some. With progression which could be costly if played 5 spins in row.
Example:
5 1
3 12
2 123 you got it!
6 1
1 12 hit
4 1
Even when 6 different streets came you got a hit. But 1-2-3-4-5-6 would kill you:
1
2 1
3 12
4 123
5 1234
6 12345
The original progression:
1x$5 (+$25)
2x$10 (+$35)
3x25 (+$50)
4x80 (+$60)
5x500 (+$80) or economical:
1x$5 (+$25)
2x$5 (+$15)
3x$10 (+$15)
4x$30 (+$15)
5x$100 (-$65)
5x$100 (+$35) you have to win twice to get in plus! Zero always a problem.
If you cover it win nothing on 5th spin.
Still not complete "immortal" version but near to it.
Hermes
Quote from: amk on Jun 18, 01:34 PM 2011
Hello JohnLegend,
I felt Hermes could best explain it in his own words. Below you can read about the method.
I would like to add that I came across a DS method which if played HIT AND RUN could perform great as well. I played it for two hours straight and then lost, this is before understanding HIT AND RUN... It is similar to 6x6 in concept... I hope you don't mind Hermes...
1) Wait until three different double streets appear in a row
2) Bet 1 unit on all 3 DS that appeared
3) If you win with next spin game ends, win is 3 units
4) If a fourth DS appears place 3 units on all 4 DS, win is 3 units
5) If fifth DS appears place 23 units on all 5 DS plus 5 units on the zero, win is 3 units, if zero hits win is 45 units.
Total units to play 135, win per game 3 units...
In short we are playing against 6 DS appearing consecutively without a repeat, there is a 99.83% chance of winning...
HERMES 6X6 Method
Warrior is busy with packing for holiday to Hawaii. What he want to show is that you play always the same formation no matter what DS comes.
1
12
123
1234
12345 it must come 6 different DS to lose but even than you can hit some. With progression which could be costly if played 5 spins in row.
Example:
5 1
3 12
2 123 you got it!
6 1
1 12 hit
4 1
Even when 6 different streets came you got a hit. But 1-2-3-4-5-6 would kill you:
1
2 1
3 12
4 123
5 1234
6 12345
The original progression:
1x$5 (+$25)
2x$10 (+$35)
3x25 (+$50)
4x80 (+$60)
5x500 (+$80) or economical:
1x$5 (+$25)
2x$5 (+$15)
3x$10 (+$15)
4x$30 (+$15)
5x$100 (-$65)
5x$100 (+$35) you have to win twice to get in plus! Zero always a problem.
If you cover it win nothing on 5th spin.
Still not complete "immortal" version but near to it.
Hermes
I dont believe this. But you can ask Scooby Doo. This is VERY CLOSE to my PHASE 3 method which is a double street killer. I think I had better post it up soon. The mistake I can see IMMEDIATELY is you are trying to cover too many lines. No need. Do you want me to present PHASE 3 tommorow Hermes, AMK???????
YES PLEASE!!!........ :)
Quote from: amk on Jun 18, 02:02 PM 2011
YES PLEASE!!!........ :)
Okay PHASE 3 makes its debut on here tomorrow. Then you know I have truly given my all to this forum. Its the last method I have to contribute. We really have some powerful methods on here now guys. these are my top SIX that I will always use.
PATTERN 4
CODE 4
DIVIDE AND CONQUER
PATTERN BREAKER
MATRIX VERTICAL 5 E/C
PHASE 3
Now AMK has told me of a new method he believes can deliver winning streaks of three figures with only 35 units on the line. If its as good as it sounds. I will have my magnificent 7 to take on the casinos with. Bring it on AMK explain it to me please or direct me to the source.
amk and JL I am always ready for any successful tweak! We are here team not competition.
I am curious already!
Thanks Hermes
Quote from: Fripper on Aug 21, 06:24 AM 2010
I tested this for 312 spins and I stopped at +109 units.
I played with this progression:
1
11
111
3333
Total of 18 units.
I lost it 3 times. But still up 109 units.
Thanks for this Hermes and as you said, we need a repeater in 5 spins. After my research, I found that it does come an repeat very often.
With this progression I played, results:
+5 unit
+3 unit
0 unit
0 unit
So you win if you get a repeater in the first 2 spins.
hi Fripper, you had great results for this, did it eventually lose or was it just too much of a grind? I've tried it a bit & it is slow, but still, i like the progression a lot..
Quote from: monaco on Sep 21, 06:35 AM 2011
hi Fripper, you had great results for this, did it eventually lose or was it just too much of a grind? I've tried it a bit & it is slow, but still, i like the progression a lot..
Well, great and great, it was just some hundred spins. But it went well at that time, I guess I stopped testing when it lost more than it won.
Try it out mate.
Cheers
It was winning for me for 9 months. But I must have a big fortune at that time. When you play it as hit and run you could be lucky for long period.
Wait and play after chops, probably will come streaks as a balance?
The other way is to play favorites first before sleepers. Always start with the biggest favorite and then downsize for smaller one and on the end sleepers.
Hermes
Hello pratikpop and Hermes,
How about playing until you see 6 unique double streets hit and then play big............
Quote from: pratikpop on Sep 21, 12:05 PM 2011
i stopped playing this system..as more than often i saw back to back unique 6 double street hit..and it was losing more than winning as fripper said
Sorry pratikpop I might have missed something...........
You mean you have seen 6 unique double streets land and then again, back to back?.................
Thanks Fripper, Pratikpop
well 9 months is a pretty good stretch Hermes! worth looking at at least no?
Quote from: Hermes on Sep 22, 11:32 AM 2011
The other way is to play favorites first before sleepers. Always start with the biggest favorite and then downsize for smaller one and on the end sleepers.
Hermes
Just an idea (which i've only tested for a couple hundred spins), but maybe rather than by betting for a straight repeat, you could go for the hottest DS (or DS's) from the last 2 cycles (12 spins), to continue being hot for the next cycle (6 spins). Always betting 1 unit on the current hottest DS (or DS's).
You could maybe play it continuous simply by crossing off the 1st spin in the first group of 12 tracked spins as you go on, so you would always be betting on the hottest DS from the last 12 spins. Then again maybe it's better keeping it self-contained within a 3 cycle period.
Did that make sense??
I'll test some more anyway & see if it's worth reporting back.
Cheers
monaco, it makes a sense! I did that too but you have to play at least 3-4 street (12) favorites at the same time. One is difficult to hit.
amk, that is possible strategy but we would have to wait a fortune because sometimes it goes well for over 500 spins before it tanks. I saw twice repeated 6 unique streets but it happens once in the blue moon. It is worth to risk it.
Hermes
This topic has been un-touched for 6 years but unjustifiably so. It is a very solid method and deserves to (possibly) have some up to date TLC. I hope that by resurrecting it newer members will be introduced to it and (possibly) add their own two-penneth. I remember playing it with good success. (Why did I stop then? HTFDIR)
I think that I played for repeats (Betting last to show) and adding previous spun D/S etc. as you go. Progression: 1 11 111 2222 33333
Yes I know you will not always be in front but many wins can come on 1st or 2nd spin to keep you on track if you are averse to big progs. but play whichever one you like
Only brought this back to stimulate debate!!!!!!
Brian
Think that I will talk to myself. Brian, why don`t you look at last D/S spun and bet next 4 D/S`s up from that: for example: 10 (D/S 2) now bet D/S`s 3 4 5 and 6. Good thinking Batman. If lose use following 4 D/S`s up from the one that just showed. And again if lost. STOP after 3 x. Sounds good Brian. Have you tested it? Ah, knew there was a fly in the ointment. Maybe if you can come up with a great progression Brian that will help. Perhaps tomorrow. You have done enough thinking for today. Let some others work on the progression. Go and have a beer (or few)
:ooh:
Interesting thread
I enjoyed eating a lot oftentimes and john legends strategies
Yes they have aspects of gamblers fallacy but they were fun to play
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 30, 12:59 PM 2017
I enjoyed eating a lot oftentimes and john legends strategies
Yes they have aspects of gamblers fallacy but they were fun to play
I know John Legend is a controversial name on this forum (and elsewhere).
Yes, he hyped his results, however, I will always give him credit for the following.
He was the biggest (and flashiest) promoter of the "big" idea of betting against
rare sequences at certain
critical moments of time on a strictly
hit-and-run basis.
Many, many other methods posted on this forum
(in the post-2012 period) are essentially based on the "big" idea above. And for that, I give John Legend full credit.
We have to give credit where credit is due -- period.
Alongside the above name, I would also list Hermes. He also posted many good ideas both in terms of bet selection methods as well as betting progressions.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 30, 05:10 PM 2017
I know John Legend is a controversial name on this forum (and elsewhere).
Yes, he hyped his results, however, I will always give him credit for the following.
He was the biggest (and flashiest) promoter of the "big" idea of betting against rare sequences at certain critical moments of time on a strictly hit-and-run basis.
Many, many other methods posted on this forum (in the post-2012 period) are essentially based on the "big" idea above. And for that, I give John Legend full credit.
We have to give credit where credit is due -- period.
That's my betting style
It's the way I have the most fun
The staking system on this is really scarey gor you to stay in profit up to betting on the fifth street
Thanks God and Good Morning All.
Anyway to make this system works? I mean with less staking or any better idea? Thanks.
Love and Light.
SugTips