All lines must appear within 37 spins,this is an idea have not tested this yet .
jott down the first 5 lines to show the last un hit line is our trigger for a total of 37 spins ,i think you should hit this before 37 spins or not but more yes then not,on a hit let the 37 spins pass then retrack for 5 more lines ,needs testing but this can be a winner.
ex line 12354 ok 6th line missing begin to bet on line six up to 37 spins minus all the other spins it took to qualify the 6th line .
Sounds like a bloody good idea. Would have to have a mild-ish 6 number progression though as it starts to get steep after about 18 spins. Course, like you said, it depends on when the first 5 lines appear.
If this works like i think it will the progression will be the important part ,starting out with the min. bet on a line to the max and then we have streets splits and straight up numbers we can bet on for the progression on that line, and if hit hits early on ,then we need something else to keep us busy.
30 GAMES after 7 spins to qualify the trigger the most it went is 17 ,i will keep testing .maybe someone can test this also and see if it does go 37 spins without a line. :thumbsup:
I have seen a line without a showing for more than 80 spins.
Quote from: Francis on Mar 05, 09:30 PM 2012
I have seen a line without a showing for more than 80 spins.
Same here ,but the difference here is your wating for 5 different lines and the last one to show with 37 spins trying to use the law of third within the lines.If lets say after 37 spins our line has not shown we let it go and start tracking over again.
IMO I don't see any advantage in the system. If it should work for the line, shouldn't it work for the streets, the corners and the split. If there is any possibility of it working in the long term, then I think it is still a gamble with lady luck. Thank you for the idea and hope my reasoning will save everybody from wasting time and risking money to work this system.
Any system you try for long peRiods will lose, there is no advantage to any system so stop looking for that,i have tested systems to no end even the ones that claimed results of hope became bitter ,any system you try or test your wasting time ,i have nothing but time ,but i will tell if you really want a holy grail ,one just has to steal the chips ,or a COMPUTER which is very expensive but you can make your money in no time to pay it off, SO THE CONLCUSION is test every thing for 10000 spins then if it wins test it again ,then if that wins fold your money in half and put it in your pocket ,REMEMBER WERE GAMBLING.
You might have something Warrior,
First I would like to say that it is great to see Buffalowizard and Warrior on one thread again.
The max that a line does not appear in 1 million spins is 89 spins. What the max amount is after 5 consecutive lines appear is the question. Until we know the answer we cannot draw a conclusion.
If you could track the different combinations of repeats and the length of spins it took for the last line to be left over we could gain a good understanding of when to place a bet or not. I think we can conclude that the max of 89 spins occurred only once with a certain combination of repeats. (With repeats I mean 11123224345) Every max number of repeats belongs to a certain group of repeats. There could be 1,2,3,4 ect repeats Perhaps on average the most the last line did not appear was 40 spins for 8 repeats. If we ever see 8 repeats before the last line appears we place our bets after 6 non hits because our progression can absorb 34 levels.
It would be great if a progressive flat betting bet could be created for this.
Hope this adds on to your thread Warrior.
Thanks AMK your ideas are always appreciated, and yes after certain amount of combos what does happen ,that is what im going to research so far its going well, the only thing with this is i hit after the second spin then its a long wait before i track again but so far in all the games i have not lost a progression ,will see what happens.
I´ve examined 700k spins for this selection (pe, 0x missing means, that the line hitted in the first bet after all other 5 have appeared):
[reveal]0x missing: 8292
1x missing: 6723
2x missing: 5701
3x missing: 4748
4x missing: 4092
5x missing: 3330
6x missing: 2889
7x missing: 2323
8x missing: 1940
9x missing: 1643
10x missing: 1400
11x missing: 1145
12x missing: 994
13x missing: 791
14x missing: 674
15x missing: 559
16x missing: 475
17x missing: 421
18x missing: 378
19x missing: 280
20x missing: 232
21x missing: 200
22x missing: 154
23x missing: 147
24x missing: 107
25x missing: 88
26x missing: 91
27x missing: 76
28x missing: 66
29x missing: 54
30x missing: 29
31x missing: 38
32x missing: 29
33x missing: 26
34x missing: 19
35x missing: 19
36x missing: 10
37x missing: 14
38x missing: 9
39x missing: 7
40x missing: 5
41x missing: 2
42x missing: 3
43x missing: 2
44x missing: 2
45x missing: 1
46x missing: 2
47x missing: 5
48x missing: 3
49x missing: 3
50x missing: 0
51x missing: 0
52x missing: 0
53x missing: 2
54x missing: 0
55x missing: 0
56x missing: 1
[/reveal]
Flat betting this file would end with -7831. Not bad, I think.
Quote from: warrior on Mar 04, 03:06 PM 2012
All lines must appear within 37 spins,this is an idea have not tested this yet .
jott down the first 5 lines to show the last un hit line is our trigger for a total of 37 spins ,i think you should hit this before 37 spins or not but more yes then not,on a hit let the 37 spins pass then retrack for 5 more lines ,needs testing but this can be a winner.
ex line 12354 ok 6th line missing begin to bet on line six up to 37 spins minus all the other spins it took to qualify the 6th line .
This is not true. I have analyzed 1 million spins and found a line bet slept for 85 spins. Of course the more spins you analyze, generally the more extreme the case will be.
In every game of roulette in 80% one/even in 15% two/lines are always sleeping.
In other words does it suggest anything to you guys.
Like i said if the line does not appear within 37 spins we trash it and track again im not sure how this would work because i have not got to this point yet ,but progression is needed.ps live roulette only in testing random.org is not real and rng forget about it,thats why it takes me longer to test.
Quote from: vile on Mar 07, 09:22 AM 2012
In every game of roulette in 80% one/even in 15% two/lines are always sleeping.
In other words does it suggest anything to you guys.
It depends on how long within a cycle.
Quote from: warrior on Mar 05, 03:55 PM 2012
30 GAMES after 7 spins to qualify the trigger the most it went is 17 ,i will keep testing .maybe someone can test this also and see if it does go 37 spins without a line. :thumbsup:
Hello
I saw few times 1 Dz sleep 23 spins and 3 streets 26 spins. And the streets were the ones that hit least in previous 36 spins. Based on Bayes formula posted on this forum you can expect to see 1 line sleep for around 50 times once in a while. Better have a nice progression.
Regards
Quote from: LuckoftheIrish on Mar 07, 07:15 AM 2012
This is not true. I have analyzed 1 million spins and found a line bet slept for 85 spins. Of course the more spins you analyze, generally the more extreme the case will be.
That would the worst case senario .
Quote from: warrior on Mar 07, 09:32 AM 2012
That would the worst case senario .
i guarantee you that you will see 1 line sleep more than 36 spins soon. If this is not bad i dont know what it is. I tested similiar systems and in 5000 spins it will happen few times.
Regards
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Mar 07, 09:26 AM 2012
Hello
I saw few times 1 Dz sleep 23 spins and 3 streets 26 spins. And the streets were the ones that hit least in previous 36 spins. Based on Bayes formula posted on this forum you can expect to see 1 line sleep for around 50 times once in a while. Better have a nice progression.
Regards
Right but after what combos does this happen, does it happen after 5 different lines have shown that could take 5 to 10 or 15 spins before one line does not show after the 5 lines,but will see.
Quote from: warrior on Mar 07, 09:40 AM 2012
Right but after what combos does this happen, does it happen after 5 different lines have shown that could take 5 to 10 or 15 spins before one line does not show after the 5 lines,but will see.
Yeah i never played lines expect Phase 3 and 3 different lines slept for like almost 20 spins together.
So be careful and prepared
Regards
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Mar 07, 11:15 AM 2012
Yeah i never played lines expect Phase 3 and 3 different lines slept for like almost 20 spins together.
So be careful and prepared
Regards
:thumbsup:
1,1,1,1,2,2,3,3,4,5,6,8,10,12,15,19,24,30,37,47,58,73,91,114,142,178
would that be a decent progression for lines?
So far 20 without a hit.any one else testing this?