there is a lot more than meets the eye with this strategy, it is very flexible in terms of money management and how you can play it, but you must keep the basic idea the same or your playing something else. I'm not going to give you a rigid system with all the rules and nuances because i want people to use some grey matter on this. Here it is.
You begin with the last 14 spins, I find this as ideal, if you want to increase to 16 be my guest, but don't decrease it less than 12, there is a reason for this.
14 wide matrix: 2B1B3A1C1A1A1C do not record zeros on this first line** this is dozens and columns
now we watch for a repeat of one of the top before a bet:
2B1B3A1C1A1A1C
2 <---- now we commence a bet against B1 showing up with 1-3 progression, so we don't want this :
2B1B3A1C1A1A1C
2B1
if the above happens we switch to the next phase to recover.
you wait for two repeats of the top and bet the next 3
EX: 1A2A2CXB2C1B3C
2A3C3C2B2 <---- HERE we bet against C1B with a 1-3-9 progression.
* X represents ZERO, do not record zero on the first line, only on 2nd line and further
total units is 34 8+26
that is the basic premise of the system, there are reasons that I have chosen these specific points to bet, not just random choice. If you test the system you will see why.
there is a lot more that i haven't said about this, that i will down the road, but i want to get this out there now, i will post results from real money play at B&M casinos starting friday.
here is a continuous session for testing purposes with real spins, i would personally stop at +4 units hit n run style but its interesting to see what happens.
3A1B1A1B3A1B1C
2B2B2A2B2B2C2A
1A3C3C3A2A3C3A
3B1A1B2C3B3B3A
2C3C1C1C3A2A1C
1A1C2A3B3C1A2C
Thanks for a gum to chew. As I understand 3rd row plays with the 2nd one? And so on. And if we didn't get (after 1st lost) two repeats in 2nd line we play 3rd line...
Thanks once again.
I liked the way you was thinking before with waiting for a double result on a line and betting against it appearing in excactly the same place a line underneath it
I ve been playing that for real while playing my newer betting version on d+c plus it works like a charm wins about a a third to half the amount per 100 spins as d+c plus slow but pretty safe in my book.I know what you mean by making your matrix wide to separate the runs in the same doz and col but it worked ok in it's raw version. Look at some of my older post and you ll see I have attached some software download it it will be ideal for you to look at the results the same software I am told is selling for 300 to 400 pounds
yes i like that way of betting, but it takes a long time to get a trigger. which is what eventually led me to this. the matrix must be wide to give it a chance to form the pattern im looking for. the issue with a lot of systems is the recovery after a loss.. Most times you use the same system with increased stakes... why would you do that if the system has the same odds of winning/losing you are only betting more money. Instead bet on something safer until you recover the loss. on our first phase in this we have 8-1 on the second we have 26-1, you can even choose 80-1. we have a stronger chance of winning our recovery bets when we have better odds. so lets say you choose to raise the stakes on the second phase to a base bet of 2 units.
you lose the first and you are now -8 on the loss, then you bet 2-6-18 on 26-1 odds and you only have to hit 4 times to recover... there are also other opportunities in the matrix that I havent mentioned. Just requires a closer look.
its easier just to hunt for the wins
3A1B1A1B3A1B1C
2B2B2A2B2B2C2A :lwlwl::
1A3C3C3A2A3C3A ::wwlwwlwl
3B1A1B2C3B3B3A :::wlwll
2C3C1C1C3A2A1C :wlwwll:ww
1A1C2A3B3C1A2C :l:wlwwlwl
3c3c2c3b2b3b2a :llwl::w
1a1a1b1c3b3c2a :::llwll
1a2a1b2a1b2b2c llwlll:lwwlw
3c3a2c1a3b1a3c :l:lwl:l
1b2c3a3c2c2b3b ::::lw
2b2c3c1a2c1c3c wllll:llwwlw
1c3b1a1a3a1a2a ::llwwl:
3a3c2a3a2b3a1a wwlwwlwl:lwl
2b2c2b3b3c2c1a :llwl:wwll
2b2b1b3a2b1a2c lllwwll::w
3c1c2c1c1a1c3b :::wl:
3b2c2b2b3a1a1c lwwll:wll:
1a3c1b3b2c3a2c :lwlwl:lwl
3c1b1c2c2a1b3c :wl:l:wl
1c3c2b3b1a1a1c wl::wllwwl
3a2b2c1c2a3c3a :wl:wl:w
did you notice that every line had an l
yes and i thought about betting for an L after an L came out
i tried waiting for some w's then starting a progression for an l but i couldnt find an optimal way to take advantage of it, and only once of all my testing did i see one full line go without an l.
still though it looks like it is up flat betting? or am i wrong ?
Quote from: StackBundles on Mar 14, 02:17 PM 2012
its easier just to hunt for the wins
3A1B1A1B3A1B1C
2B2B2A2B2B2C2A :lwlwl::
1A3C3C3A2A3C3A ::wwlwwlwl
3B1A1B2C3B3B3A :::wlwll
2C3C1C1C3A2A1C :wlwwll:ww
1A1C2A3B3C1A2C :l:wlwwlwl
3c3c2c3b2b3b2a :llwl::w
1a1a1b1c3b3c2a :::llwll
1a2a1b2a1b2b2c llwlll:lwwlw
3c3a2c1a3b1a3c :l:lwl:l
1b2c3a3c2c2b3b ::::lw
2b2c3c1a2c1c3c wllll:llwwlw
1c3b1a1a3a1a2a ::llwwl:
3a3c2a3a2b3a1a wwlwwlwl:lwl
2b2c2b3b3c2c1a :llwl:wwll
2b2b1b3a2b1a2c lllwwll::w
3c1c2c1c1a1c3b :::wl:
3b2c2b2b3a1a1c lwwll:wll:
1a3c1b3b2c3a2c :lwlwl:lwl
3c1b1c2c2a1b3c :wl:l:wl
1c3c2b3b1a1a1c wl::wllwwl
3a2b2c1c2a3c3a :wl:wl:w
If we wait for a loss (as our trigger) and then bet just one spin using up as you win method this whole 308 spins end up +37, highest being 51
Flat betting this ends up +54
Maybe +2 on a loss, -1 on a win, when in plus restart?
But that can get messy sometimes
If we can have a good MM here this could be a solid system
Using Anonymous MM with 1-3 and then 1-3-9 it ends +30
flat betting is fine i,ve been testing it flat over some old spins.....you can lose a lot more with the progression i,ve had 6 matches ie 6 underneath each other once and a few 5 matches...you,ll lose too much with progression ...i think flat is the way and use ego,s money mangement he posted on vls money management thread...i won,t be progressing on this anymore but flatbetting using bigger units i think....i think i,ve just been plain lucky up to now using it with d+c plus
Hi 6th-sense,
Quote from: 6th-sense on Mar 15, 06:08 PM 2012
...i think flat is the way and use ego,s money mangement he posted on VLS money management thread...
Can you post link or more info on this?
B 27
hi bettor the link is here link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9257.msg77491#msg77491 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9257.msg77491#msg77491)
Quote from: ANONYMOUS on Mar 13, 01:39 PM 2012
there is a lot more that i haven't said about this, that i will down the road, but i want to get this out there now, i will post results from real money play at B&M casinos starting friday.
Hi ANONYMOUS,
Any more observations/results with this one?
Do you aim for +4 each session?
Regards
B 27
I havent had a chance to post and dont have much time at the moment l but heres a couple things on a loss the reason i bet after the first repeat instead of betting all of them is because on a loss there are 3 repeats i usr my recovery bet directly after since it qualifies so after a loss i ususlly get at least on unit back then if u notice on a loss u see something like this a1c
A1c on the next line underneath those bet it womt be another r epeat ive been lucly enough not to lose those bets yet. But i will not be sticking to one system exclusively. Take a couple units and go. I take four when u stay and play continous is when the bullsht happens i see it everytime without fail but leavig and doing it again its been working fine.
Quote from: StackBundles on Mar 14, 02:17 PM 2012
its easier just to hunt for the wins
3A1B1A1B3A1B1C
2B2B2A2B2B2C2A :lwlwl::
1A3C3C3A2A3C3A ::wwlwwlwl
3B1A1B2C3B3B3A :::wlwll
2C3C1C1C3A2A1C :wlwwll:ww
1A1C2A3B3C1A2C :l:wlwwlwl
3c3c2c3b2b3b2a :llwl::w
1a1a1b1c3b3c2a :::llwll
1a2a1b2a1b2b2c llwlll:lwwlw
3c3a2c1a3b1a3c :l:lwl:l
1b2c3a3c2c2b3b ::::lw
2b2c3c1a2c1c3c wllll:llwwlw
1c3b1a1a3a1a2a ::llwwl:
3a3c2a3a2b3a1a wwlwwlwl:lwl
2b2c2b3b3c2c1a :llwl:wwll
2b2b1b3a2b1a2c lllwwll::w
3c1c2c1c1a1c3b :::wl:
3b2c2b2b3a1a1c lwwll:wll:
1a3c1b3b2c3a2c :lwlwl:lwl
3c1b1c2c2a1b3c :wl:l:wl
1c3c2b3b1a1a1c wl::wllwwl
3a2b2c1c2a3c3a :wl:wl:w
Just a quickie thought! If you play LW + 12