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Title: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 25, 08:23 AM 2012
This system was posted in the forum sometime back. I tweaked the mm and have been winning for the last 3 months. I could be lucky, I don't know. Perhaps it really work. I would like to share it here so you guys could prove me wrong if I am indeed lucky. I think a tracker or RX would be ideal in this case.


The system is to bet on all repeaters by looking back at the last 17 spins. When the 18th spin appears, drop the 1st spin. Look for repeaters within the last 17 numbers and bet all. When the 19th spin appears, drop the 2nd spin and continue the procedure over and over again. Do not drop any numbers after a hit. Just follow the rules as above.


I believe the strength is in the mm. We will never know which number is going to win before spinning. Each and every number have the same 1 in 37 chances for a single zero wheel. We start off by betting 1 unit on each qualified number ( REPEATER). For each bet, the count is 1. If we bet 3 numbers, the count is 3. We continue adding the count until a hit. On each hit we minus 30 from the accumulative count. If the count is negative, it means we are winning and we will start the count all over again. We will always start all over again whenever the count goes negative. Say we started playing and loss a certain number of spins and the count goes to 60. We hit a win on a 1 unit bet, the count goes down to 30 (60-30=30) and will proceed and continue counting from 30.


When the count is above 100, we will bet 2 units on all repeaters. For a 2 units bet, the count is 2 on each number. If we bet on 4 numbers, the count is 8. On a hit we minus 60 instead of 30 since we are betting 2 units. If the running count goes negative, we will start all over again as mentioned above. If the running or accumulative count goes back to 100 and below we will revert back to betting 1 unit on each number.


When the count goes above 300, we bet 3 units. On a win we minus 90 (3x30=90).
When the count goes above 600, we bet 4 units. On a win we minus 120 from the accumulative count. When the count is above 1000, we bet 5 units.
We drop the bet whenever the count goes back to previous lower levels.
As you can see here,for 1 unit we bet to a count of 100. For 2 units, 200. for 3 unit a count of 300 and for 6 units a count of 600.


I do not guarantee it will work forever. I do not say it's a winning system. I learned the system from this forum and spent more than 6 months testing. After tweaking the mm I started playing with real money in B&M casino and have been winning good money for the last 3 months. Please do not play for real before you tested it out and I will not be responsible for any losses from the outcome of using the above system.


Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: Robeenhuut on Mar 25, 10:52 AM 2012
Quote from: sniper on Mar 25, 08:23 AM 2012
This system was posted in the forum sometime back. I tweaked the mm and have been winning for the last 3 months. I could be lucky, I don't know. Perhaps it really work. I would like to share it here so you guys could prove me wrong if I am indeed lucky. I think a tracker or RX would be ideal in this case.


The system is to bet on all repeaters by looking back at the last 17 spins. When the 18th spin appears, drop the 1st spin. Look for repeaters within the last 17 numbers and bet all. When the 19th spin appears, drop the 2nd spin and continue the procedure over and over again. Do not drop any numbers after a hit. Just follow the rules as above.


I believe the strength is in the mm. We will never know which number is going to win before spinning. Each and every number have the same 1 in 37 chances for a single zero wheel. We start off by betting 1 unit on each qualified number ( REPEATER). For each bet, the count is 1. If we bet 3 numbers, the count is 3. We continue adding the count until a hit. On each hit we minus 30 from the accumulative count. If the count is negative, it means we are winning and we will start the count all over again. We will always start all over again whenever the count goes negative. Say we started playing and loss a certain number of spins and the count goes to 60. We hit a win on a 1 unit bet, the count goes down to 30 (60-30=30) and will proceed and continue counting from 30.


When the count is above 100, we will bet 2 units on all repeaters. For a 2 units bet, the count is 2 on each number. If we bet on 4 numbers, the count is 8. On a hit we minus 60 instead of 30 since we are betting 2 units. If the running count goes negative, we will start all over again as mentioned above. If the running or accumulative count goes back to 100 and below we will revert back to betting 1 unit on each number.


When the count goes above 300, we bet 3 units. On a win we minus 90 (3x30=90).
When the count goes above 600, we bet 4 units. On a win we minus 120 from the accumulative count. When the count is above 1000, we bet 5 units.
We drop the bet whenever the count goes back to previous lower levels.
As you can see here,for 1 unit we bet to a count of 100. For 2 units, 200. for 3 unit a count of 300 and for 6 units a count of 600.


I do not guarantee it will work forever. I do not say it's a winning system. I learned the system from this forum and spent more than 6 months testing. After tweaking the mm I started playing with real money in B&M casino and have been winning good money for the last 3 months. Please do not play for real before you tested it out and I will not be responsible for any losses from the outcome of using the above system.


Regards

Its like very well known Pivot system. Either you wait 36 spins and bet on all repeaters using progression to stay in profit after you get a hit or you start betting if you see 2 repeaters and you keep adding them up.
I recommend both versions.

Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 25, 11:19 AM 2012
Hello Robeenhuut,


Thanks for your recommendation. The million $$$ question here is, will the mm I mentioned work for this system or I am just plain lucky for the past 3 months. I played 6 days a week, averaged about 200 spins per day. Winning averaged 86 units per day. Largest draw down 600 units so far and it happened only once in 3 months. Normal draw down is about 100 to 150 units and most of the time less than 50.


Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: dennisbelle on Mar 25, 12:29 PM 2012
"When the count goes above 600, we bet 4 units"


"for 6 units a count of 600"

When the count is above 600 do you bet 4 units or 6 units?
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 25, 12:41 PM 2012
Hello Dennisbelle,


We bet 4 units when the running count is above 600. Sorry for the confusion. What I meant was, when we are betting 6 units we will bet till we lost 600 units before we go to the 7 units level. For each level we must lose 100 bets before we move up to next level. At 1 unit betting, when we lose 100 units we go to 2 units betting. At 2 units betting, we will to to 3 units after we lose 200 units. By this time our total loss will be 300 units (100 units of 1 unit bet and 200 units of 2 units bet). Hope this answer your question.

Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: Robeenhuut on Mar 25, 01:42 PM 2012
Quote from: sniper on Mar 25, 11:19 AM 2012
Hello Robeenhuut,


Thanks for your recommendation. The million $$$ question here is, will the mm I mentioned work for this system or I am just plain lucky for the past 3 months. I played 6 days a week, averaged about 200 spins per day. Winning averaged 86 units per day. Largest draw down 600 units so far and it happened only once in 3 months. Normal draw down is about 100 to 150 units and most of the time less than 50.


Regards

Generally from my experience playing repeaters in last 36 spins when you get between usually 2 and 12 numbers you have to be prepared to go without hit for 20+ spins. The highest number i saw was 28 spins. In such a case you need bankroll of at least 5000u. I play it simply by adjusting size of the bet to be in profit. If you bet on repeaters from the beginning starting with 2 numbers your requirements should be similar. 16000 spins you played is pretty high number and should give some indication about any system.  But you need to be prepared to got without hit for well above 20 spins. The size of your largest draw down indicates that you never went over 20 spins.

Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: Robeenhuut on Mar 25, 01:58 PM 2012
And one more thing. I would suggest resetting after first hit. It happens that after a first hit your gap between hits could be very large especially  when you get early hit but then we are talking about a bit different system.

Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 26, 09:25 AM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


Could you please kindly try this on RX. This could possibly turn out to be a winner.


Thanks and Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 26, 04:46 PM 2012
Hello Sniper,

I have coded it into RX.

PM me for details.


My advice : as Robeenhut said, reset after a win
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: vladir on Mar 27, 05:14 AM 2012
Can you share the results please?
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 27, 09:43 AM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


Thank you very much for coding the system in RX. Could you please kindly share the results. By the way, I have already pm you. I still continue winning using this system.


Yesterday I won 50 units. Today I hit a bad streak and drop 250 units at one point and finally ended up winning 90 units. I could probably be lucky and I have a feeling it will tank as time goes.

I remembered testing another quite similar repeater system years back in VIP forum. The system survived 1.2 million spins and showing a steady profit tested using RX. There were pull back occasionally but nothing alarming. I thought I found the grail and was very excited. After further testing for 300,000 spins the system started to crack and slowly fell apart beyond recovery. I was not shocked but slightly dissapointed.

Regards and Best wishes to you and family.




Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: Drazen on Mar 27, 10:35 AM 2012
Dear sniper are you aware of what you just said.


System "survived" 1.2 million spins... Where would you be after that? You would drink cognac in your own chateau at the south of the France. And you wouldne give a darn for the rest of the spins.


[size=78%]But wait, you can't play in reality so much spins in your whole life. And not for the next life after reincarnation if you were born to works a dealer too [/size] :yawn:


Every time is new day, new visit to casino, new numbers.


But how many average sessions you would get if system can win 1.2 million spins. How much days you would went out as a winner?


That is the way you should think.


Regards


Drazen
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 27, 10:47 AM 2012
Hello Drazen_cro,

My friend, sorry for the misunderstanding. The 1.2 million spins was during testing and not actual play. I did not play that system in real casino after the test failed.

Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: Drazen on Mar 27, 10:51 AM 2012
My point was that you should consider playing  it then. Do you know how much is 1.2 million spins. Darn much.



Everything fails in the longterm, because of negative expectancy. But when you transfer that in real life and normaln average session lenght, well that is another story.


Regards


Drazen

Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 27, 10:57 AM 2012
Hello Drazen_cro,


Thanks my friend. I know what you mean, we will never be able to play 1.2 million spins in our life time. I did tried to work out something but never finalized. I tried to implement stop loss and profit objective but somehow dropped the idea.


Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: Drazen on Mar 27, 11:02 AM 2012
Quote from: sniper on Mar 27, 10:57 AM 2012

I tried to implement stop-loss and profit objective but somehow dropped the idea.



You shouldnt. Start again, take i.e 100 wiesbaden sessions. Put profit and loss limit, test it and see how much you would win out of these 100. It will tell you how much times in average you will be winner in the casino. If  your balance after that is positive you are good to go.


Just my 2 cents


Regards


Drazen

Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 27, 11:06 AM 2012
Hello Drazen_cro,


Your advice sound great. I will try to look at it as per your suggestion.


Thanks and Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 27, 01:36 PM 2012
Here is the chart against 80000 live spins (1 year playing at B&M) as per Sniper's method.
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: Robeenhuut on Mar 27, 01:36 PM 2012
Quote from: drazen_cro on Mar 27, 11:02 AM 2012

You shouldnt. Start again, take i.e 100 wiesbaden sessions. Put profit and loss limit, test it and see how much you would win out of these 100. It will tell you how much times in average you will be winner in the casino. If  your balance after that is positive you are good to go.


Just my 2 cents


Regards

Drazen

Hello

Drazen and myself play similar system and have success  with it.
But as i posted before be prepared to go 20+ spins. It will happen
eventually. You can either have stop loss  or enough BR.
In 100+ games it happened just 3 times. More than 50% hits  happens during first 3 or 4 spins.
I just play for 1 win and start another game.

Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 27, 02:02 PM 2012
Just 2 things :

On a win, do we remove the number that won for the next bet?

Is the following correct :

1 unit above 0 and -30 on a win
2 units above 100 and -60 on a win
3 units above 200 and -90 on a win
4 units above 300 and -120 on a win
5 units above 400 and -150 on a win
6 units above 500 and -180 on a win

and so on?
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 27, 02:25 PM 2012
Hey guys,

another good advice for you :

Keep the same method BUT reset on a win AND track more spins...
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 27, 02:46 PM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


On a win we will look back the last 17 numbers and bet on all the repeaters.

We do not remove any numbers, we just stop all the betting, look for new qualifiers and resume betting.

We start betting 1 unit on each number. When we lost 100 units, we increase our bet to 2 units for each number.

When our losses reaches 300 units ( we lost 100units on the 1 unit bet and 200units on the 2 unit bet), we start with 3 units bet.

When our losses reaches 600 units ( we lost 100units on the 1 unit bet and 200units on the 2 unit bet and 300 units on the 3 units bet), we start betting 4 units on each repeater.

When our losses reaches 1000 units ( we lost 100units on the 1 unit bet and 200units on the 2 unit bet and 300 units on the 3 units bet and 400 units on the 4 units bet)), we start betting 5 units on each repeater.

When our losses reaches 1500 units ( we lost 100units on the 1 unit bet and 200units on the 2 unit bet and 300 units on the 3 units bet and 400 units on the 4 units bet and 500units on the 5 units bet), we start betting 6 units on each repeater.

On each unit win we will minus 30 from the losses. If we win on 2 units bet we will minus 60. On a 3 units bet minus 90 on a win. 4 units win is minus 120 and 5 units win is minus 150.

After each win we will check our losses and bet according as follow.

losses 0 to 100 = bet 1unit
losses 101 to 300 = bet 2 units
losses 301 to 600 = bet 3 units
losses 601 to 1000 =bet 4 units
losses 1001 to 1500 =bet 5 units
losses 1501 to 2100 =bet 6 units

Thank you very much

Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 27, 02:50 PM 2012
Thanks for the explanation.

The chart I posted before is then NOT ok.
I'll post a new with the same spins but with your original method.
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 27, 02:53 PM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


Thank you very much for your time and your kindness


Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 27, 02:54 PM 2012
Quote from: sniper on Mar 27, 02:46 PM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


On a win we will look back the last 17 numbers and bet on all the repeaters.

We do not remove any numbers, we just stop all the betting, look for new qualifiers and resume betting.

We start betting 1 unit on each number. When we lost 100 units, we increase our bet to 2 units for each number.

When our losses reaches 300 units ( we lost 100units on the 1 unit bet and 200units on the 2 unit bet), we start with 3 units bet.

When our losses reaches 600 units ( we lost 100units on the 1 unit bet and 200units on the 2 unit bet and 300 units on the 3 units bet), we start betting 4 units on each repeater.

When our losses reaches 1000 units ( we lost 100units on the 1 unit bet and 200units on the 2 unit bet and 300 units on the 3 units bet and 400 units on the 4 units bet)), we start betting 5 units on each repeater.

When our losses reaches 1500 units ( we lost 100units on the 1 unit bet and 200units on the 2 unit bet and 300 units on the 3 units bet and 400 units on the 4 units bet and 500units on the 5 units bet), we start betting 6 units on each repeater.

On each unit win we will minus 30 from the losses. If we win on 2 units bet we will minus 60. On a 3 units bet minus 90 on a win. 4 units win is minus 120 and 5 units win is minus 150.

After each win we will check our losses and bet according as follow.

losses 0 to 100 = bet 1unit
losses 101 to 300 = bet 2 units
losses 301 to 600 = bet 3 units
losses 601 to 1000 =bet 4 units
losses 1001 to 1500 =bet 5 units
losses 1501 to 2100 =bet 6 units

Thank you very much

Regards

Do we bet the same repeaters until a win or do we retrack on each spin (then the repeaters might be changing) ?
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 27, 02:59 PM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


We will look back the last 17 numbers after each spin and bet on all numbers that appear at least 2 times. We start by looking at spin 1 to spin 17. At spin 18 we will drop spin 1 and look at spin 2 to spin 18. At spin 19 we will drop spin 2 and look from spin 3 to spin 19.


Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 27, 03:05 PM 2012
Quote from: sniper on Mar 27, 02:59 PM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


We will look back the last 17 numbers after each spin and bet on all numbers that appear at least 2 times. We start by looking at spin 1 to spin 17. At spin 18 we will drop spin 1 and look at spin 2 to spin 18. At spin 19 we will drop spin 2 and look from spin 3 to spin 19.


Regards

That's what we call "retracking" dear Sniper  ;)
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 27, 03:12 PM 2012
Here is the FINAL chart against a no-zero wheel. Single zero chart to come.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 27, 03:16 PM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


Congratulation my friend, it looks like a possible winner. So far so good, you are just great.


Thank you very much


Regards

Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: GameBreaker on Mar 27, 03:20 PM 2012
Great work!!  Congrats.

Can you please remind us the conditions of this test?  Was it run on American wheel results (0,00) European (0) or even non-zero wheel results?

Thanks.
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 27, 03:31 PM 2012
Here is the FINAL chart against a single zero wheel with the same spins (double checked).  >:D

Good input Gamebreaker...



Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: ophis on Mar 27, 06:35 PM 2012
Rules of this system from 1st post sounds exacly the same as FMoDR by Albalaha....
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 27, 09:13 PM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


After testing and playing real for 3 months I don't quite accept the results of the final chart on the single zero. With due respect I don't say you did wrong but I am quite certain the chart won't have the pattern as the last one.I could be wrong. The earlier one looks more likely. I dare not say the system won't fail, knowing that all system will fail in the end.


If you don't mind please send me the Rx code and I can check through my spins and verify the results with you.


Anyway, thank you very much for your time.


Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 27, 09:35 PM 2012

Hello Ophis


QuoteThis system was posted in the forum sometime back. I tweaked the mm and have been winning for the last 3 months. I could be lucky, I don't know. Perhaps it really work. I would like to share it here so you guys could prove me wrong if I am indeed lucky. I think a tracker or RX would be ideal in this case.

Yes, the rules of the system is from Al's FMoDR. I tweaked the mm hoping to make it more practical to play.


Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 28, 03:19 AM 2012
Quote from: sniper on Mar 27, 09:13 PM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


After testing and playing real for 3 months I don't quite accept the results of the final chart on the single zero. With due respect I don't say you did wrong but I am quite certain the chart won't have the pattern as the last one.I could be wrong. The earlier one looks more likely. I dare not say the system won't fail, knowing that all system will fail in the end.


If you don't mind please send me the Rx code and I can check through my spins and verify the results with you.


Anyway, thank you very much for your time.


Regards

hello Sniper,

please refer to this topic : :.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9324.msg77855#msg77855 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9324.msg77855#msg77855)

Thanks
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 28, 03:59 PM 2012
Dear Sniper,

Following our long mail conversation,

I finally changed my mind, so now, people, you have another proof of my coding skills.

Find attached the .dgt file and the 80000 live spins used for the tests.

But people be aware its my last free release.

Private coding upon request with a non-disclosure agreement.

regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: marivo on Mar 28, 05:33 PM 2012
I compare your rx  code with the system in Ophis's Multi Systems Tracker and I think you are betting to much numbers.  ???
Sniper: does rx code work under your rules?
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 28, 05:39 PM 2012
Quote from: marivo on Mar 28, 05:33 PM 2012
I compare your rx  code with the system in Ophis's Multi Systems Tracker and I think you are betting to much numbers.  ???
Sniper: does rx code work under your rules?

You are right to ask Sniper's confirmation but as per the instructions it bets all the repeaters tracked during past 17 spins. And retrack on every spins. Doesn't remove the last on a win.
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: marivo on Mar 28, 05:53 PM 2012
Quote from: boatran8 on Mar 28, 05:39 PM 2012
And re-track on every spins.
Re-track, as I understand it, means he bets only the numbers which qualify in last 17 spins and not the numbers which have been qualified in past too.
"Ridiculous" example:
1 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16--->number 2 qualify
1 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 17---->number 17 qualify and number 2 doesn't qualify any more.
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 28, 05:56 PM 2012
Quote from: marivo on Mar 28, 05:53 PM 2012
Re-track, as I understand it, means he bets only the numbers which qualify in last 17 spins and not the numbers which have been qualified in past too.
"Ridiculous" example:
1 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16--->number 2 qualify
1 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 17---->number 17 qualify and number 2 doesn't qualify any more.

Correct. That's what Sniper asked when I asked him confirmation for the same matter.
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: Skakus on Mar 28, 06:28 PM 2012
thanks for the .dgt file boatran8.

I just played four 300 spin sessions randomly plucked from a pile of actuals and the results were,

-170

-413

-55

-323

That's a poor result on spins that my own repeater system managed to defeat.

I've seen enough. Thanks for your efforts though guys.
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 28, 08:49 PM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


QuoteRe-track, as I understand it, means he bets only the numbers which qualify in last 17 spins and not the numbers which have been qualified in past too.
"Ridiculous" example:
1 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16--->number 2 qualify
1 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 17---->number 17 qualify and number 2 doesn't qualify any more.

Thank you very much for the coding. I just checked through, what Marivo said was correct. We bet only the repeaters from the last 17 numbers and not all the repeaters which have been qualified in the past.


We always look at the last 17 numbers and bet all the repeaters within the last 17 numbers.


Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 28, 09:31 PM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


Example


oldest number at the top


1)14
2)7
3)2
4)0
5)29
6)5
7)25
8)23
9)11
10)17
11)29
12)24    (bet 29)
13)1      (bet 29)
14)11    (bet 29)
15)27    (bet 29, 11)
16)13    (bet 29, 11)
17)30    (bet 29, 11)
18)22    (bet 29, 11)
19)16    (bet 29, 11)
20)28    (bet 29, 11)
21)9      (bet 29, 11)
22)2      (bet 29, 11)
22)3      (bet 11 only) drop 29 because it's not repeater in last 17 spins.




Regards

Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: Robeenhuut on Mar 28, 11:35 PM 2012
Quote from: Skakus on Mar 28, 06:28 PM 2012
thanks for the .dgt file boatran8.

I just played four 300 spin sessions randomly plucked from a pile of actuals and the results were,

-170

-413

-55

-323

That's a poor result on spins that my own repeater system managed to defeat.

I've seen enough. Thanks for your efforts though guys.

In my opinion you can not play any repeater system after you get your first hit unless you wait few virtual loses. Depending how many repeaters i have after first hit i sometimes wait few extra spins to start betting.  Usually i reset after first hit. But it requires time and patience. Yesterday for example i got my first hit after 3 spins when i bet on 5 numbers and after waiting 5 extra spins got another hit after additional 15 spins. I ended up betting 12 numbers because i kept adding repeaters. I never leave off hit number and i adjust my bets to stay in profit after next potential hit.
I also would not leave off repeaters once i start betting on them like  Sniper does.
To me it defies a whole purpose of this system. Once you start tracking you have to bet on all repeaters that appeared on board. So look at last 18 spins or just start adding them up as you continue to track and bet on all repeaters.  The ones that you left off usually hit in next few spins  O0   
Hard part of this system is that  you have to keep adding new repeaters and adjust your bets. I have 45 sec to place a bet so i need to be very alert. In a rough session i just described i was down 300u but you need at least 1000u bankroll to play this way. If you don't wait you need  around 5000u but i would recommend playing my way. I never waited more than 28 spins for a win and never needed more than 500 or 600u bankroll.
But it requires patience and time.

Regards   
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 29, 04:32 AM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


Could you please kindly fix up the code so we can test further.


Yesterday I had a bad streak and was down 600 units plus and betting 4 units per repeater. As usual, the winning started to come after a bad start, I ended up 60 units.


Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 29, 05:01 AM 2012
Hello Sniper,

I am working on it at the moment. Seems more complicated than expected. So please apologize for the delay

regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 29, 05:07 AM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


Thank you very much for your help.


Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 29, 06:16 AM 2012
Should be ok now.

Sniper can you please test it and let me know?

NB : Due to the complexity of the system, it takes a  lot of time to run it. I did my best. You have to wait more than usual while testing. Please bear with it.

Thanks
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 29, 06:31 AM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


Thank you very much for your hard work. I will test it and come back to you later.


Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 29, 06:48 AM 2012
Here is the chart.

Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: Skakus on Mar 29, 06:51 AM 2012
Yep, still losing.
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 29, 07:05 AM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


The placing of bet on repeaters is correct but the number of unit placed is wrong. The payout on winning is not right.


The idea of tracking the number of units bet is to enable us to know when to increase or reduce the number of units to bet. The actual payout as far as the game is concern on a 1 unit win will always be 35. For a 2 units win will always be 70.


The minus 30 from the count when we are betting 1 unit and winning on the number is for tracking purpose only and should not be taken as the actual payout for the game.


Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 29, 07:10 AM 2012
Hello Sniper,

I don't get it well. Can you give me an example please?
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 29, 07:24 AM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


I think the best solution to this matter is to remove all the mm and just leave it at Flat Bet.
I can just calculate the mm manually after running the test.

The most important test here is to chart the frequency between hits. After knowing this, we will be able to judge wheather the system is practical to play or otherwise.


Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 29, 08:10 AM 2012
Here it is flat bet.
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: sniper on Mar 29, 08:19 AM 2012
Hello Boatran8,


Thank you very much. I will test it and come back to you.




Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 29, 08:22 AM 2012
I am running a test at the moment to track the number of spins between 2 wins...

I'll post the result soon.
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: Robeenhuut on Mar 29, 08:33 AM 2012
Quote from: boatran8 on Mar 29, 08:22 AM 2012
I am running a test at the moment to track the number of spins between 2 wins...

I'll post the result soon.

Either you reset after a win and wait few virtual loses or have massive BR like  5000u. I don't think flat bet will work  here. Better play with stop-loss.  I have not tested it but maybe 100u?
And once you start tracking do not drop any number from the list. You just keep betting on ALL numbers from the beginning.  It increases your BR but its a must in this system. Just test this and see who is right  O0

And sorry boatran8 but  you change your charts of this system too often. Anyway i dont rely much on automated testing using Rx. I use it manually.

Regards
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 29, 08:36 AM 2012
Here are the stats over 50000 live spins :

347,  296,  250,  282,  247,  213,  185,  150,  138,  135,  129,  103,  102,  79,  100,  76,  78,  61,  63,  62,  54,  62,  51,  46,  49,  22,  42,  21,  33,  26,  25,  23,  22,  32,  18,  13,  14,  22,  16,  14,  11,  12,  9,  10,  10,  11,  7,  6,  10,  4,  4,  8,  7,  7,  4,  2,  5,  4,  5,  1,  4,  0,  2,  2,  4,  1,  1,  1,  1,  3,  1,  0,  2,  1,  0,  1,  0,  1,  0,  0,  1,  1,  0,  1,  1,  0,  1,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  1,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  1,  1

1st number : 2 consecutive wins
2nd number : gap of 1 spin between to consecutive wins
And so on...
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: Robeenhuut on Mar 29, 08:39 AM 2012
Quote from: boatran8 on Mar 29, 08:36 AM 2012
Here are the stats over 50000 live spins :

347,  296,  250,  282,  247,  213,  185,  150,  138,  135,  129,  103,  102,  79,  100,  76,  78,  61,  63,  62,  54,  62,  51,  46,  49,  22,  42,  21,  33,  26,  25,  23,  22,  32,  18,  13,  14,  22,  16,  14,  11,  12,  9,  10,  10,  11,  7,  6,  10,  4,  4,  8,  7,  7,  4,  2,  5,  4,  5,  1,  4,  0,  2,  2,  4,  1,  1,  1,  1,  3,  1,  0,  2,  1,  0,  1,  0,  1,  0,  0,  1,  1,  0,  1,  1,  0,  1,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  1,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  1,  1

1st number : 2 consecutive wins
2nd number : gap of 1 spin between to consecutive wins
And so on...

And what does this tell us?
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: eureka on Mar 29, 08:42 AM 2012
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Mar 29, 08:39 AM 2012
And what does this tell us?

Maybe nothing but I thought Sniper would need those...
Title: Re: I Win With This System
Post by: Robeenhuut on Mar 29, 09:09 AM 2012
Quote from: boatran8 on Mar 29, 08:42 AM 2012
Maybe nothing but I thought Sniper would need those...

Hehe its ok.  And thanks for your hard work at coding it but whatever you do dont drop any repeaters just because you just track last 18 spins. It just dont make any sense to me.  Why would you do it?  Original system is good enough but you can try to make it better only but using different progression or utilizing stop-loss or making sure that you have big enough BR.  Once you have all the repeaters at the beginning just continue to bet on them, add the new ones and dont drop the ones that hit.
And always stop at first hit and if you want to continue just wait few virtual loses. If you miss a hit so what?  Start another game and you will get another chance.

Regards