Quote from: RayManZ on Sep 04, 05:21 AM 2024I still have no fucking clue how to come up

If you have that then what you are saying is a cycle off all what is being said on threads.
I am focussed on understanding the mechanism behind it and not on numbers, they have no meaning we know that. 

You got Hit/Unhit So what?
You got Cycles So what?
You got position So what?
You got Inc/Dec So what?

Convert them to actual numbers and we again have  Hit/Unhit, Cycles, position.

I don't think we need all what they have proposed, it is like F/S or VDW or Erdos , they have the same results ,Order at the end!

maybe you should not be focussed on just single numbers? We have more groups and we can create more groups. Maybe there is always 1 group of numbers of a single number in a balanced state?

I'm just thinking out loud here. I still have no fucking clue how to come up with a bet that could win then loose.  The guru's keep telling me i'm close, but i have been close for years now.

Now that i'm thinking about it. There are many balanced states? You got unhit/hit. What else can we think of? Does cycle length count? There are different lengths. In theory a single number cycle does have many posible lenght. How about positions?

Why else would a guru introduce a second stream and the cycle principle? The way they though us is probely not the way you use it to make a winning bet. So how can we use all that they told us in a other way to create a winning bet.

That's where my head is right now. Forget about the explanation and look at a other way to create a bet but using what they told us.

I see that the two things that we only have are repeats and unique. What is determined from what now!
Do we sett here an average for what our cycle will be and bet according ir I quit before cycle ends ( if it is not a hit on spin 2).

Sorry Mel i had this point in my mind but as you are trying to say something that you actually  don't wanna say it here , it doesn't connect in the way how to play it!

Here is a spin by spin !

Quote from: ᶦ ᵃᵐ|Ä-łëx on Sep 03, 03:09 PM 2024I understand that , a cycle will be the case you are referring to.

Yes... it's the same thing just a different angle.  This the angle of uniques and repeats which are the only things that matter in the balanced state


It's either a repeat and everything is zeroed out with 1 number

Or

A continuation In the sequence

Sorry previous had two same numbers!
Like this:

27   2
14   1
30   1
2   1
18   1
19   1
15   1
32   1
3   1
4   1

The way you are saying now it looks like a cycle!
I understand that , a cycle will be the case you are referring to. But we know this state!

7-1
14-1
19-1
6-1
36-1
31-1
35-1
6-2

Just some food for thought and to give some ideas and I'm not claiming it's the HG or anything. 

It might not seem like balanced because you have 1 number in your sequence.  But this is the beginning, this is when your game is most balanced.

After spin 2 result the chaos starts unless you get a repeat of spin 1 which means your back to the start.

So you need to change your thinking to where having 1 number in the cycle is balanced.  Now your goal is to reach this ending/beginning after random starts to do its thing.


So spin 1 no repeat means you have a another unique

The list of unique numbers decreases

So now for spin 2 you have two options another decrease of the list or a repeat of the previous 2 spins!


Now if you look at your list, some of these numbers have groups in common whether that's ec or ds or splits etc.  so you can decide which numbers to cover in groups and which to cover individually based on the information you are getting. Each spin reveals new information and new coverage.


*Notice how I'm saying spin 1 and spin 2... spin repeat and not talking about which number *

Quote from: ᶦ ᵃᵐ|Ä-łëx on Sep 03, 01:32 PM 2024From my view this dont make sense , don't take me wrong!
We have our cycle 37 and the stats !
Do we finally need all numbers to appear or only from the ended cycle!!!

Sorry to confuse you.  No we don't need all numbers to come out.  Think about it the result is the same whether 10 numbers came out or 37.

Remember what I said you can make all 1's 0.

From the final result you can subtract 1 hit and you will still have the same outcome.  Every number with 0 and only 1 number with 1 and your back to the balanced state

From my view this dont make sense , don't take me wrong!
We have our cycle 37 and the stats !
Do we finally need all numbers to appear or only from the ended cycle!!!