Quote from: Chris555p on Apr 04, 08:27 AM 2013
@ everyone

I have been playing online with live dealer using both methods the wheel layout and table layout simultaneously with real $.

I wait to have 2 LLs before betting. The results so far are very good. Having more than 2 LLs with both methods at same time is very rare up to now…..Although it may get a bit boring waiting for 2LL's to show up, for me it's not an issue as I usually make a few bigger bets at that time and I'm out.

For the wheel layout may be we could use something similar to the method Action number 22 created by John Patrick;  He uses for example 4 units to cover 22 numbers:  Dbl street 1-6;  Dbl street 10-15;  Quad 17/18/20/21; Dbl street 28 -33.The strike rate is also quite high and having streaks of LLs is very rare when the timing is correct. I have also played this method combined with method 143, the results are very good.

May be we could develop something similar as Action Number 22 but using the wheel lay out…..

Cheers

Chris

YES COULD WORK.

I will present a wheel based bet  some time today or this evening ,but using outside dozen to make the bet so far 3 ls is the most, the Ws can add up to 22 to26 in a row time will tell.

Hi Warrior

Yes it would probably work I'd say.

I tried to send you PM but the PM feature of the forum does not seem to work. Would it be possible to give me your add email and I will send it to u. My add email is Chris555p@hotmail.com

Cheers

Chris

Quote from: warrior on Apr 04, 09:46 AM 2013
I will present a wheel based bet  some time today or this evening ,but using outside dozen to make the bet so far 3 ls is the most, the Ws can add up to 22 to26 in a row time will tell.

appreciate it and cant wait 

Quote from: Chris555p

I tried to send you PM but the PM feature of the forum does not seem to work. Would it be possible to give me your add email and I will send it to u. My add email is Chris555p@hotmail.com

Chris

Hi Chris

I think U have to complete 10 or more posts before U are allowed to post PM to members,
cheers

Hi Chrisbis

Oki thanks for lettting me know; I'm a new member therefore, I was not aware of this requirement.

Cheers

Chris

Quote from: Chris555p on Apr 04, 08:27 AM 2013
@ everyone

I have been playing online with live dealer using both methods the wheel layout and table layout simultaneously with real $.

I wait to have 2 LLs before betting. The results so far are very good. Having more than 2 LLs with both methods at same time is very rare up to now…..Although it may get a bit boring waiting for 2LL's to show up, for me it's not an issue as I usually make a few bigger bets at that time and I'm out.

For the wheel layout may be we could use something similar to the method Action number 22 created by John Patrick;  He uses for example 4 units to cover 22 numbers:  Dbl street 1-6;  Dbl street 10-15;  Quad 17/18/20/21; Dbl street 28 -33.The strike rate is also quite high and having streaks of LLs is very rare when the timing is correct. I have also played this method combined with method 143, the results are very good.

May be we could develop something similar as Action Number 22 but using the wheel lay out…..

Cheers

Chris

Hi!
I  have just tested that system of John Patrick.
I put my the wheel on autoplay for 1000 spins flatbet with the system and the results was -25 units on rng at unibet.I don`t really now if this can help, i just wanted to now.
agesta

Went to my local casino, just to get the numbers of the day.
And what do you know, this is sort of rough and come out of the casino with no more nerves left.....

Table Layout     167 Wins   97 Losses   Max 4 L's (that's manageable)
Wheel Layout     175 Wins  89 Losses   Max 6 L's (that's a killer, and I thought I wouldn't see that)

There are the numbers to download and different sheets

Flat betting

On the Table layout there where 1-3-9-27
On the Wheel layout there where 1-3-9-27-81-243-729 !!

And a safer way would be 1-3-9 wait for virtual win

This is the point where we need to talk to George and have him look at the LW's especially the 6L's and then next 30 spins thereafter
to see what is a good solution to come out of this with a blue eye....

Would be nice if one would let me know of the extra dozzen bets that they think would reduce the downdraft...

Ray

thats bad 

do you have the numbers? or downloadable? wiesbaden?

Click on the file "Numbers"....

They are from Bad Dürkheim Table1 live dealer

or here if you want....

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Hope I have made a mistake...... Have a look.

@ Ray, everyone

Oohh ....!!! That looks bad....  

That's one of the reason when I play for real $, I generally prefer playing at least with two methods similtaneously as I found that they usually compensate for each in case of LL......; This way I also spread the risk, avoid putting all my eggs in the same basket coz if/when the basket falls......


Chris

 Ray is that betting every spin? a few years back i was testing alot of methods within methods this is the only way you have a chance to beat the game,chris555 has the right idea ,by playing 2 methods ,but the second method has to be of a higher payout bet to make it profitable ,the 143 was ment to be played like any other 24 number bet waiting for 2 LL then bet or even 3  the strike rate is very good the most i seen is 7 thats not bad but not great but wins can be more then losses ,people here want to see if the wheel layout gets better results , i personally dont see the difference,but i will show you a METHOD WITHIN A METHOD, its what gizmo means buy reading random, it is using the wheel layout but using outside  bets ,it will take sometime for the explanation it the bet within the bet that people can get confused so give me a day or so .

Quote from: warrior on Apr 04, 08:39 PM 2013
Ray is that betting every spin? a few years back i was testing a lot of methods within methods this is the only way you have a chance to beat the game,chris555 has the right idea ,by playing 2 methods ,but the second method has to be of a higher payout bet to make it profitable ,the 143 was ment to be played like any other 24 number bet waiting for 2 LL then bet or even 3  the strike rate is very good the most i seen is 7 that's not bad but not great but wins can be more then losses ,people here want to see if the wheel layout gets better results , i personally don't see the difference,but i will show you a METHOD WITHIN A METHOD, its what gizmo means buy reading random, it is using the wheel layout but using outside  bets ,it will take sometime for the explanation it the bet within the bet that people can get confused so give me a day or so .

very interesting...
can't wait to see and try

QuoteRay is that betting every spin? a few years back i was testing a lot of methods within methods this is the only way you have a chance to beat the game,chris555 has the right idea ,by playing 2 methods ,but the second method has to be of a higher payout bet to make it profitable ,the 143 was ment to be played like any other 24 number bet waiting for 2 LL then bet or even 3  the strike rate is very good the most i seen is 7 that's not bad but not great but wins can be more then losses ,people here want to see if the wheel layout gets better results , i personally don't see the difference,but i will show you a METHOD WITHIN A METHOD, its what gizmo means buy reading random, it is using the wheel layout but using outside  bets ,it will take sometime for the explanation it the bet within the bet that people can get confused so give me a day or so .

Yes, this was betting every spin. I'm currently testing playing on 2 table same time.
This should work in Casinos like Wiesbaden, because they have 4 Touchbet tables running.
Since the timings of these tables are quite the same. I will have a go.....

Cant wait to see Warriors parallel bet....

Ray

I also look forward to try Warrior's new method within a method