Quote from: Twisteruk on Oct 04, 07:37 AM 2010
Very impressive Katt !

That was only a few tests Paul, this need much more test ,you know that .   

lol very true Katt ! 

Katilla,

What are you, a systems generator?

They all look interesting, but can't keep up with testing.

Quote from: GLC on Oct 04, 11:15 AM 2010
Katilla,

What are you, a systems generator?

They all look interesting, but can't keep up with testing.

Yes   George  i am like you a *systems generator*,
there is nothing wrong with that, right? Ha,Ha,Ha...

Quote from: Kattila on Oct 04, 03:57 PM 2010

Yes   George  I am like you a *systems generator*,
there is nothing wrong with that, right? Ha,Ha,Ha...

Keep 'em coming.

It let's everybody pick the one they like the best and do some testing to see how it performs.

Thanks,

George

Another  flat  bet  session ,same  rules:

Start first  with  virtual play,
when appear the G1 or G2 , they are triggers for the next G, so
if appear first G1 bet real for G2, if appear first G2  bet real for G3.
If lose  the next 6 spins ,   -36    First  Stop-lose.
Now  start again  virtual play and apply again same rules, G1 or G2 triggers.
If lost again -36,  stop at final stop-loss  -72 (-100).
Target  around +100.
Remember  take always the G to bet from the last number spun.
At  reply 9,  see the excel  file (G s  for all 37 numbers).


7    
30  g4
6    g6
17  g6
28  g4
36  g3
30  g1     trigger  bet for g2
13  g6  l1
1    g2  win  +24 ,  bet  for g3
2    g4  l1
14  g4  l2
7    g1  l3
25  g3  w  +36   bet   for  g4
4    g6  l1
24  g3  l2
9    g2  l3
26  g2  l4
0    g1  l5
29  g5  l6      0   wait  g1  or g2
13  g4
25  g6
15  g6
31  g4
10  g5
19  g4
9    g4
26  g2  trigger  bet  g3
5    g4  l1
33  g1  l2
17  g4  l3
13  g1  l4
33  g2  l5
15  g3  w     0   bet  g4
26  g6  l1
24  g4  w  +24   bet g5
34  g5  w  +54   bet  g6
12  g4  l1
9    g6  w  +78   bet  g1
19  g3  l1
9    g4  l2
5    g5  l3
10  g6  l4
22  g2  l5
7    g1  w  +78     bet  g2
9    g6  l1
35  g2  w  +92  

end  session


........................................................

Now another  way  to play flat  bet,
but this  time  18 numbers ( 3Gs).


Wait  until 3 any  different  Gs ( Ex: G3,G5,G1)
hit  in the last  6 spins ( Ex: G3,G5,G5,G1,G3,G5,  or G5,G1,G1,G1,G3,G5..etc..)
now  bet  flat bet  the others 3 Gs remained, until  +36 target or -54  stop-loss,
than  wait again  3 different Gs in the last  6 spins and  bet the 3  Gs remained.....

Also can bet  flat  bet until  +18 / or -36,   Or   +18 / -54.
This flat bet ideas(18 numbers) are from  one of my friends , and he report  very good results
until  now.   Thanks  Spens X (from other forum).

I have played this  way (3Gs,  6 spins)  than  bet  the others 3Gs,
but with progression (only the first 4-5 steeps) :


Progression (for online casinos):

1.  0,10 x 18    -1,8      +1,8
2.  0,20 x 18    -5,4      +1,8
3.  0,50 x 18    -14,4    +3,6
4.       1 x 18    -32,4    +3,6    stop-loss at -32,4
...........................................................................
5.       2 x 18    -68,4    +3,6   
6.       4 x 18    -140,4  +3,6
7.       8 x 18    -284,4  +3,6   stop-loss at -284,4



Cheers.

Quote from: Kattila on Oct 19, 11:05 AM 2010
Another  flat  bet  session ,same  rules:

Start first  with  virtual play,
when appear the G1 or G2 , they are triggers for the next G, so
if appear first G1 bet real for G2, if appear first G2  bet real for G3.
If lose  the next 6 spins ,   -36    First  Stop-lose.
Now  start again  virtual play and apply again same rules, G1 or G2 triggers.
If lost again -36,  stop at final stop-loss  -72 (-100).
Target  around +100.
Remember  take always the G to bet from the last number spun.
At  reply 9,  see the excel  file (G s  for all 37 numbers).

Test1

Casino Spielbank Wiesbaden             19.10.2010; Table 8

Spin 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48

Number 32 19 24 0 22 30 4 11 11 33 16 29 19 9 16 13 20 8 28 29 1 17 5 29 35 5 24 30 21 14 36 10 16 17 19 20 16 35 5 1 27 16 25 31 6 18 5 11

Group/Angle G1 G3 G3 G5 G4 G5 G2 0 G2 G6 G2 G2 G4 G6 G5 G2 G5 G3 G6 G5 G4 G2 G2 G1 G4 G1 G6 G5 G4 G5 G1 G1 G4 G6 G4 G6 G3 G4 G1 G5 G2 G4 G4 G4 G4 G5 G6

Trigger/Bet trig g2 g2 g2 g2 g2 g2 g3 g3 g3 g3 g3 g3 trig g3 g3 g4 g4 g4 g5 g5 g5 g5 g5 g5 trig g2 g2 g2 g2 g2 g2 trig g2 g2 g3 g3 g3 g3 g3 g3

win/loss l l l l l w l l l l l l l w l l w l l l l l l l l l l l l l w l l l l l l

profit -6 -12 -18 -24 -30 0 -36 -12 6 -30 -66 -42 -78

End Session

Am i doing it by the rulles?

This movement tracking, I think, it's a very inteligent approach to roulette. Just in a very early stage, although.
Would like you to consider this thought Kattila:
the repeat number. what movement the landing of the little white ball performs?
0 movement?
There are other 6 movements or angles:
(37*37) combinations
intervals
n+6      G1
n+12    G2
n+18    G3
n-6       G6
n-12     G5
n-18     G4

so the zero movement represents at this system the same house advantage as zero on roulette
37/37*37=2.7% +-
==========================================
For consideration only:

what about consider the repeat number n=0 like one of the movements?
Suggestion:
if last G is G4 or G5, the repeat is considered -G6
if last G is G2 or G3, the repeat is considered -G1
else
if last G is G1, the repeat is considered -G1
if last G is G6, the repeat is considered -G6


this favours neighbour betting of course.
I take the above in consideration when the repeat strikes when I am in bet/attack mode,
obviously costing me one more chip.


Just sharing this BrainStorm for the sake of evolution of this aproach

thanks 4 your patiente

What you think?

Yes  it is ok  ,only  one thing....
 Is better wait one virtual  win  than start  to  bet.

Example:

7    
30  g4
6    g6
17  g6
28  g4
36  g3
30  g1     trigger  bet for g2
13  g6  l1
1    g2  win  Trigger  bet  G3
2    g4  l1
14  g4  l2
7    g1  l3
25  g3  w  +30   bet   for  g4
4    g6  l1
24  g3  l2
9    g2  l3
26  g2  l4
....................................

Yes  Ok,  we have  to find  the  best  way and triggers  to  play this angles,
so any idea welcome...

found one trigger.

on 10000 real spins the pattern repeat 5 times same movement only came once

like
g1
g1
g1
g1
g1

For those who prefer inside bets/movements, this is an update for this method.
Still working/playing  on this one, this movements seems to hit various times in the last
around 12-18  spins.

If test/play this one will notice you can win flat bet  most of the time
after trigger Ex. G1G1...G1( so two or three same G in the last 9-12spins)
bet 6 times that G.  At the same time better bet only two Gs( movements/events).

If use progression , use this one 111111/222222/333333/444444
and if lose twice -36 go to next level and stay there until in plus(or hit your stop lose),
but if in that next level lost twice go to next level....so on...

cheers

More .... ball movements and flat bet .....

As you know I studied this a lot...

i still play flat bet the katt way with very positive results.
i bet the most hot movement from last 12 spins.
maximum of two also and I do not repeat the same hot as the previous 12 window.

just that I have to take note of the dealer change but that is optional.

glad to see you are still into this, as this one is one of my fetish systems

*For those who may have difficult in tracking the ball movement i attach a table with the movements.


Cheers,
AL