I don t see you that way,  i think that is a confusion  that everyone who post here need some help or so....No. I just wanted open talk , opinions about streams , i don t need others system, i do ok with my own flat bet system. We can have different opinions  no problem.
Stats only.... can t make you longterm winner, ask any programner, they know that. If i am wrong...someone show me some good proof.

Cheers

Quote from: Kattila on Jul 28, 09:38 AM 2022First parallel streams

A/B

2/5
1/6
2/3
5/5
3/2
2/4
4/3
5/1
6/1
3/4
2/3
1/5
3/6
5/1
5/6
4/3
6/2
4/6
4/1
2/6
3/5
5/2
6/1
5/3
1/1
6/4
5/3
5/2
1/4
3/2
6/4

_______

Second parallel streams

C/D

3/2
1/1
1/6
6/6
2/3
5/4
3/5
6/6
1/1
1/1
2/6
4/4
3/6
2/2
5/1
1/1
2/2
5/6
2/2
6/5
6/3
4/4
6/5
6/6
1/2
2/2
4/4
5/5
3/4
3/3
1/3
6/6
1/1
3/1
1/1
4/4
3/5
2/2
6/6
5/6
3/2
2/2
1/6
5/5
3/4
6/4
6/6
1/5
1/1
4/4
3/4

are these continuous results ie spin by spin as they hit?

they don,t match up if they are?

Quote from: Kattila on Jul 29, 09:59 AM 2022i don t need others system, i do ok with my own flat bet system. We can have different opinions  no problem.

thats great...post the system up lets have a look at it

Quote from: Kattila on Jul 29, 09:59 AM 2022Stats only.... can t make you longterm winner, ask any programner, they know that. If i am wrong...someone show me some good proof.

totally agree here..but you can use them to your advantage...how would a programmer go about it?...ive not seen any program except what ive asked knicksmi to do myself anywhere else...and that ive posted the link too..so everyone can have it....but that on its own doesn,t help...so i agree with you

i,m not attacking you..i like you...and if you want a discussion about certain aspects i,m willing to...

but only to a point...

6th-sense why no one here is not giving some more help in a personal email, are y all going to take the hg with you?

Same here, only to a point ...
The examples i posted are not real spins are just examples (to protect my system),but yes they look like that spin by spin.
The A are the lines ( double streets) and the B is the derivated event from A.
Most of time are quite different , so what is in A is not in B at the same time. Most logical( for me) is to bet the oposite 3 , so if in A i have last 3 ....425...i bet the oposite in B.
If last 3 in B are 126 i bet the oposite in A. Alternate , jump from one system to other after max 2 spins( w or L2)
The other streams ( which go in parallel and are quite similar) C and D are Both Derivated Event Streams , one from the Lines(DS) and the other from other *lines* (can be made with streets).
In this case i will not bet the oposite, bet same when in both ( C and D) have the right signals.
EC bets untill now, but of course can play also 1 event ( 6 no) or two events( 12 no).

@kattila sent you a pm

How you see my pm ?

Quote from: Kattila on Jul 29, 02:24 PM 2022The examples i posted are not real spins are just examples (to protect my system

ditto...

so you want a discussion one sided?..me to show you but you protect your system ?...and post made up spins?

Quote from: alexlaf on Jul 29, 02:07 PM 20226th-sense why no one here is not giving some more help in a personal email,

how do you know that for sure?

right enough is enough....

i need a break...

i came...i tried...and said what i needed to be said

i,m not leaving the forum...i can,t delete my account...forum won,t let me..

but i won,t be posting for a while

I know for me, not for everyone I can tell I asked y for some more help via email..
Take your time.

The attached chart is based on my understanding of what reddwarf may have referred to as "number cycle".

Seems pretty close to the chart he posted here: rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9090.msg76356#msg76356

No, number cycles of this kind are not about repeats that have to happen after x amount of spins.

And this also hasn't made me a winner.

Quote from: saihtaM on Aug 02, 09:59 AM 2022And this also hasn't made me a winner.

Your chart seems to be smoother than reddwarf's.
Your chart doesn't show any units in y - direction. 

Quote from: Herbyx on Aug 02, 01:39 PM 2022Your chart seems to be smoother than reddwarf's.
Your chart doesn't show any units in y - direction. 

Yes, I also noticed that it looks smoother. I could have added "units", and the y-axis is indeed about units, I can assure you of this, but this graph does not show the results of an actual winning method. It's just the "path" taken by the cycles which would give you these results if you could perfectly synchronize your bets with them.

Perhaps reddwarf's chart is less smooth because it actually is about the application of a betting scheme (that is not perfectly in line with the cycles, but very close)?

The main point is that people may be wrong if they think that when reddwarf mentions the term "number cycle" he is talking about numbers that have to repeat based on the pigeonhole principle.