The contradictions pain me.

Quote from: 6th-sense on Mar 31, 04:05 PM 2023mainside you can follow easily...derived side is set up so you have two tables ...that also can show whats next to be bet in postional....two games intertwined,,,dyslexics bankroll shows this ....how you use the basic core principle is just a start....theres a lot more to it...this is why rbbb said you can,t win on his streams cycle tracker alone.....it does not matter that repeats come mainly in lo...not unless you understand carpediems posts

In the derivative part - there will be both sleeping and dropped numbers. And mostly only hits ... And to cover them all, even more funds will be required. This was tried by me and resulted in a progression that killed the bankroll. There seems to be no edge.

Carpet posts rather summed up everything that is written by rrbb and waddy. For a second it seemed to me that you can pull out the text - put it in a neural network and it will give out something like that. Mutually exclusive pairs - as he said the key to balance could be if the roulette wheel was a bag. But we cannot exclude 36 after the number 18, the bag cannot be emptied.

Blueprint, I feel your pain...

While these gurus are arguing among themselves about which one will help more without actually helping at all, and if anything, doing the opposite, there are a few questions on my mind. Unfortunately, they won't provide anything valuable other than philosophical word vomit:

How much help do we need?

Who measures and defines the actual help? Is it the person who is giving it or the person who is receiving it?

Are they really that altruistic?

Are they trying to teach a fish to climb a tree?

Even if they have the key, how smart is it from their point of view to make things easier for any random forum member who could figure it out and share it again with their family and friends for almost no cost and destroy the game as we know it?

If there is a simple solution, and they have figured it out, as they claim, are they way smarter than the rest of us, or have they put that much more time and effort into it to cross the line?

If the person hasn't succeeded with the given help, what does that say about the helpers intentions, if anything?

If I got it one way or another, would I be smart, trustworthy, careful enough to keep the secret?

Cheers and stay well confused

Quote from: Drazen on Apr 01, 11:09 AM 2023Even if they have the key, how smart is it from their point of view to make things easier for any random forum member who could figure it out and share it again with their family and friends for almost no cost and destroy the game as we know it?

"Destroy the game" as an assumption that casinos will go bankrupt or the rules of the game would be changed? That's rather silly. Trust me, you could post step-by-step instructions to a winning method right here and it wouldn't affect the casino business in the slightest.
Regards,
MJ

Quote from: Drazen on Apr 01, 11:09 AM 2023. Unfortunately, they won't provide anything valuable other than philosophical word vomit

i disagree,,,i gave the paper what it was based off...i even gave you the tool how to read the streams tracker....no philiosophical crap....

Quote from: Drazen on Apr 01, 11:09 AM 2023Who measures and defines the actual help?

thats more than what i got...

Quote from: Drazen on Apr 01, 11:09 AM 2023or have they put that much more time and effort into it to cross the line?

more than you realise...yet your not still happy with the basics of what i gave...

Quote from: Person S on Apr 01, 10:55 AM 2023This was tried by me and resulted in a progression that killed the bankroll. There seems to be no edge

well thats it then...and i realise that not only you did this...completeley sumarised it up.....if it was that simple i would not have posted what i posted...i did say i have no problem posting the concept of dyslexics php...nor the tracker to read the streamsheet...
i,m no guru ...only a man who has spent a long time on this....and at least given you something....if you think i should spell it out do not be so nieve...

just do what mel does and follow the last and add unit overlay on overlays....thats the way to go ...

Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 01, 01:03 PM 2023just do what mel does and follow the last and add unit overlay on overlays....thats the way to go ...

It's one thing to not agree with someone and another to throw these little jabs.  I haven't attacked the way you do things!  I just agree you do them different and it works for you.  I wish you the best! So let's just keep Mel out of it.

Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 01, 01:03 PM 2023thats more than what i got...

It's pure BS! But it doesn't surprise me coming from you...

Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 01, 01:03 PM 2023i,m no guru ...only a man who has spent a long time on this....and at least given you something....if you think i should spell it out do not be so nieve...

I am grateful to you for your efforts to show and bring us to this "something". It invigorates the mind well, fitness gymnastics for the brain. And this principle is as clear as the rays of the sun. There is no great need to explain logical things in this. But the application is strong in the dark, so strong that it is impossible to see anything there. I do not deny that it may be in us, we do not see it as clearly as we would like. But honestly, as Dracaena wrote, there is too much water, and no attempts to disperse it further.

Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 01, 01:03 PM 2023just do what mel does and follow the last and add unit overlay on overlays....thats the way to go ...

The fact is that by playing this way we will sometimes win and sometimes lose. In general, all this can be reduced to someone that we will run into the edge of the house.

This is not baccarat where the probability of a banker is higher and the casinos, knowing this, make a commission on winnings. And secondly, as previous gurus said, this can be taught to a child in 5 minutes.

This also contradicts such complex things as parallel flows, because we need to keep in mind what is happening there and in all positions, I don't know, it must be an unusual child, with great mental abilities. IMHO

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 01, 01:48 PM 2023It's pure BS! But it doesn't surprise me coming from you..

i,m talking about this paper mel..no offence to you yourself...we both have different thoughts on this,,,not having a go at you..

Quote from: Person S on Apr 01, 01:51 PM 2023This also contradicts such complex things as parallel flows,

no it doesn,t...its only how to read it

and an apology to mel is needed..sorry to offend you it wasn,t meant that way

In general, thank you for your work, for sharing trackers and ideas with us. I like classical training that can lead to results, albeit not in a short period of time.
Yes, Priyanka had the ability to lead lessons, and perfectly form the material.
This is probably what we are talking about - we do not need to know 100% your game, it would be dishonest and arrogant. But at least competent guidance along the way is already the key to success. Unless it's a farce of course.)

Quote from: Person S on Apr 01, 02:02 PM 2023Unless it's a farce of course

yep of course....make your own mind up.....

Quote from: Person S on Apr 01, 02:02 PM 2023Yes, Priyanka had the ability to lead lessons, and perfectly form the material.

i,m not pri..the only thing i can give is how to use it....if pri knew ..that person wouldn,t

Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 01, 02:09 PM 2023i,m not pri..the only thing i can give is how to use it....if pri knew ..that person wouldn,t

Have you calculated, or is it speculation.
I play poker and I know that math is the key to winning. The same definition applies to roulette.