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37 back to basics

Started by 6th-sense, Jun 09, 02:29 PM 2018

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Person S

Quote from: Herbyx on Apr 09, 02:25 PM 2023Your carpet is talking ?
I begin to understand.
Imagine he speaks Japanese :)

Person S

I respect the participants, but the reasoning is not clear, but abstract
 symbols that go from year to year along the same route have not brought anyone out, but have strengthened delusions.
Logic is the most reliable tool.
So sorry dude Mel.
I wish you to become a roulette winner.

Person S

By the way, you have a good talent to lead the conversation and the audience.
Maybe well, this roulette and find a cabaret where you will show your talent by performing stand-up from the stage.
By the way, you can tell stories about the search for the grail.
For example, like this - do you know why some pigeons do not live in nests?
Because they don't have papers :)

MoneyT101

Quote from: TRD on Apr 09, 02:20 PM 2023@Mel

a [no actual advantage whatsoever -- its simply a great guideline used in the exact placement of positions, so constructing bets]

b [.. or just enough .. to work with MM in tandem]


.. meanwhile, the key, at least in your case, is in improvement in MM.


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@6th, given that your approaches apparently essentially differ, same for you?

If you focus on the increasing/decreasing/pigeons and compartments etc it can get confusing.

Whether you guys understand it or not 6th and I are doing the same thing at the end of the day.  I'm just showing you a different angle for the same thing. 

There isn't any advantage in roulette it's a game and the house has the advantage.  Any type of betting will fall to the house edge.  Except when you don't let the law of large numbers dictate the cycle!

Quote from: Person S on Apr 09, 02:23 PM 2023Lol Money, you seem to be overlooking the fact that your progressions will increase your losses and your profits will be at the bottom. And why are you giving an example with 3 numbers? After all, you know for sure that this is a guessing game.


If you didn't understand correctly read it again or work it out yourself. I flatbet 3 units the whole 37 spins!  So what progression?  Each spin I lost 3.  Now obviously I didn't cover 3 straights cause how the hell would I win 6 units on 14 spins I'm not even sure why I'm answering you but maybe this info can benefit someone who actually reads.

Quote from: Person S on Apr 09, 02:28 PM 2023The crappiest comparison sorry)
You never know how many spins you need.

Again read the info the repeat came on spin 38 so you used up all 36 unique numbers.  Why are you having trouble understanding this?


3 units per spin played at 37 spins = -111 units played total

14 of the 37 spins you win 6 units= 84 units won

1 out of 37 spins you win 36 units= 36 units

So final is

All units placed = -111
14 spins won at 6= +84
1 spin won at 36= +36
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+9


Quote from: Person S on Apr 09, 02:47 PM 2023Logic is the most reliable tool.
So sorry dude Mel.
I wish you to become a roulette winner.

I agree and thank you

Quote from: Person S on Apr 09, 03:03 PM 2023By the way, you have a good talent to lead the conversation and the audience.
Maybe well, this roulette and find a cabaret where you will show your talent by performing stand-up from the stage.
By the way, you can tell stories about the search for the grail.
For example, like this - do you know why some pigeons do not live in nests?
Because they don't have papers :)

Sounds good I will look into it in the future.  Thank you for your suggestion.  Maybe I'll see you there since you sounds like your good at being a clown.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

MoneyT101

Quoteredd warf old post

In other words: playing a different game might nullify the house edge (in the case of tic-tac-toe, there is also a house edge if the we win 1 unit when we win a game).

So the last time I will ask this on this forum: "what other games" could we play on the roulette table (or for that matter with sequences of numbers)

1. a session must be short as not to be pulled in by statistics so to speak
2. a strict definition of what a number cycle is must be found
3. the "waiting for a win event" game must be avoided at all costs
4. progressions can only be used once a winning method has been found
5. playing just 1 method is not going to cut it


QuoteDyksexlic old post

You're correct. I win at least once within every 38 spin cycle. 100% guaranteed. I don't win each spin, like you said, the win cycle more than covers the losing spins.


"As u state in every cycle of 38 spins 1 repeater has to come. But if u only have one win u cannot profit, without progression. "


My point is I don't need to, as predicting the number spun is not a prerequisite for my system winning a 38 spin cycle.

It's not a crack in that sense, like a software crack. . just a solution to the problem of how do you secure a win regardless of sequence of numbers

My system doesn't wait for an event. It is a PRINCIPLED idea. No sequence of possible spins can change this principle.

I'll leave you guys and the clowns with that info.  Enjoy your circus
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Person S

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 09, 03:08 PM 20233 units per spin played at 37 spins = -111 units played total

14 of the 37 spins you win 6 units= 84 units won
OK, I understand. But why are you giving a ghostly hope counter for 14 spins? Where such confidence?
You need at least 13 spins to be profitable. You know what will be used.
14 spins of 6 units - 30 numbers must be covered.
Well, in the end, you will again lose to the edge of the house in pure mathematics. Sometimes you will have 8 sometimes 10 wins of 6. Sometimes you will have more than 14. It's just pure mathematics, not thoughts based on unreliable information.

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 09, 03:08 PM 2023Maybe I'll see you there since you sounds like your good at being a clown.
I will definitely buy a ticket for the first row, it's so nice to see a colleague ;D

Person S

Let me ask you one more question. For example, you have become old and tomorrow death will come. And you still haven't figured out the grail.
Will you feel comfortable?

Person S

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 09, 03:27 PM 2023I win at least once within every 38 spin cycle
Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 09, 03:27 PM 2023My point is I don't need to, as predicting the number spun is not a prerequisite for my system winning a 38 spin cycle.
Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 09, 03:27 PM 2023No sequence of possible spins can change this principle.
What does this mean - the worst scenario, 1 time he won at least in a cycle of 38. For example, 1 time and a billion.
5 times out of a billion he won 2 times out of 38 spins (this is just an example, I did not count))
etc.
Using principle, principle of what? Mary poppins?
If this is the notorious principle of repetitions - pigeon holes (MEL do not forget to learn the text for stand up)) . That is the principle of repetition and nothing more.

MoneyT101

Quote from: Person S on Apr 09, 03:39 PM 2023OK, I understand. But why are you giving a ghostly hope counter for 14 spins? Where such confidence?
You need at least 13 spins to be profitable. You know what will be used.
14 spins of 6 units - 30 numbers must be covered.
Well, in the end, you will again lose to the edge of the house in pure mathematics. Sometimes you will have 8 sometimes 10 wins of 6. Sometimes you will have more than 14. It's just pure mathematics, not thoughts based on unreliable information.
I will definitely buy a ticket for the first row, it's so nice to see a colleague ;D


:twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted: 

You truly are a clown lmao

That was the cycle length.  We won the cycle.

Of course in the actual game some spins can win and some can lose and it will fluctuate.  That wasn't the point.  And it doesn't even matter.

I said it was an example and it was to show you that no progression was used in 37 spins and we flatbet.

Yes it's pure mathematics something you are having trouble with other then your reading!

:xd:  :xd: I can't with you, I seriously hope you're just trolling


Quote from: Person S on Apr 09, 03:51 PM 2023Let me ask you one more question. For example, you have become old and tomorrow death will come. And you still haven't figured out the grail.
Will you feel comfortable?

This actually use to cross my mind.  I've put so many years into this and it was depressing for some time.  That's why it's good to just take a break and enjoy life a bit before coming back.  So you don't have any regrets.

It was the only thing that kept me sane.  Whether I have the grail or not I still enjoyed my life, my family.  So I can be comfortable with myself. 

I realized there wasn't any way to beat this game doing the same thing.  I had to accept the fact that I will not win every spin.  I had to accept the fact that this game is unbeatable.  And that's what what helped me find a solution. I don't want to play the game the way it is.  I have control over what I bet, when I bet, and how much I bet.

I forgot about winning and losing and just looked at what is happening. Then made decisions that were in my favor.

Repeats come from recent numbers all across the board

Lines repeat 93% from last 3
Streets repeat 98% from last 6
Splits repeat 99% from last 9
Straights repeat 99% from last 18

Notice it's from half of what came out and based on the partition used your chances of getting a repeat before half the spins gets better.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

MoneyT101

Quote from: Person S on Apr 09, 04:14 PM 2023What does this mean - the worst scenario, 1 time he won at least in a cycle of 38. For example, 1 time and a billion.
5 times out of a billion he won 2 times out of 38 spins (this is just an example, I did not count))
etc.
Using principle, principle of what? Mary poppins?
If this is the notorious principle of repetitions - pigeon holes (MEL do not forget to learn the text for stand up)) . That is the principle of repetition and nothing more.

Ok so I am sorry for calling you a clown.  Your reading comprehension is the problem.  Maybe English isn't your first language.  I apologize

" I win at least once within every 38 spin cycle"

This means every 38 spins there is atleast 1 win

So if he did 38 spins 1000 times. He will have atleast 1000 wins.

Each 38 spins =1 guaranteed win
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Person S

Okay, I need to get some sleep before I move on.
It's good that you're all right!

Herbyx

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 09, 04:56 PM 2023Each 38 spins =1 guaranteed win
To win is not a problem,
to win and stay in profit with a maximum of of 2736 units is the art.
And this without progression ?

Person S

And about 1 time out of 38.
I took the probability that the cycle is 38 long. It will come out only 1 time in a billion (there should be another hundred zeros here). That is, 1 time in a billion you will receive a gain in cycle 38, the question is - how much is this gain? He did not say...

Person S

Here Herbie, after talking with his carpet, also began to understand ;Д

d80

Quote from: Herbyx on Apr 09, 05:13 PM 2023to win and stay in profit with a maximum of of 2736 units is the art.
And this without progression ?


I think it uses different proportion of units at each number or partition.

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