Too many rebuses       
WE will never understand it like this

Think about this idea just to give some sort of example and a what if story...

You can play black or red that's normal betting.  But what if you can play something that you don't know exist like White

And white is a bet that has both black and red in it.  This bet will win no matter which outcome.  This bet is always available but you keep looking at only at red and black statistics. 

Your goal is to find the inside bet white.  It doesn't win every spin but it wins more then it loses. This bet doesn't have the same statistics because it exist inside the realm of red and black results

End of story

I understand that you don't want/can't go any further, but in the end we are at the starting point, the same as when the discussion began

we know that the game involves more than one flow, which includes exits and non-exits(  if you play only exits you will lose, if you only play not exits you will lose)
we know that the repetitions mostly come from below, we know the principle of the box
we know that we can never have the same value of main and secondary flow
we know that there is a morning and an evening and in the meantime something happens

we know that the sequences are up and down, and maybe others that I haven't mentioned, but we don't know what to look at, which seems strange, but it's before our eyes

I'm really demoralized, I don't know what to look at anymore, and in the meantime I'm going crazy searching.

Thank you for all. Anyway.

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Dec 20, 01:50 PM 2023You mentioned the low positions dominate "repeats"...Ok why do they dominate? What does that mean?  How can I use this info?

You get more 1's because the 1 is availble at all cycles.

Break it down at just one cycle lenght. Take 4 for example. We only look at the stats if the lenght of the cycle is 4.

Example: 1, 2, 5, 1 = cycle lenght of 4.

If you look at what position end the cycle the most you will see they will all be equal.

That's all i got. I still don't have any solution for winning this game and have no clue we i am looking for.

Quote from: leoncino74 on Dec 20, 03:56 PM 2023I understand that you don't want/can't go any further, but in the end we are at the starting point, the same as when the discussion began

That's not true.  The forum as a whole has evolved.  It's not at the starting point.  Look at the conversations from years ago and ppl were just trying to win using martingale systems. 


Ok so if you know that you can't play only exits or non exits.  What options of play does that leave you with?

Now that you have this answer what does it require from you?  A different path to learn which involves looking at the angle of both exits and non exits game play.  It's your only option!

So now you need to evolve and start thinking different and looking at the new angle that is the only option.  New game plays and new ideas from this path.

Ppl want answers to questions they can easily answer themselves just by weighing their options.

mel on this cycle you say there is a white bet that has bothe red and black and this bet will win no matter which outcome?

Quote from: alexlaf on Dec 21, 02:39 AM 2023mel on this cycle you say there is a white bet that has bothe red and black and this bet will win no matter which outcome?

I'm not answering anymore questions after this.  This post has a lot of info and read CarpeDiem last post for a bit more. This is a public space and there is really enough information if you read and try things out. Sure it takes time and having to go back and read but still it's taken years to understand so why should it be any different with any of you...

I gave you an idea/story.  I even mentioned that the white bet wins more than it loses.  You can't win each and every spin played.  It's not possible! So forget about trying to win every spin.  You need to win the cycle!!!!!!


Now another thought you failed to pay attention to... if I'm telling you there's both red and black in the white bet; or let's also use terms leoncino74 created exits and non exits.  Then this bet has both numbers from both sides.  This bet has both repeated numbers and numbers that haven't shown.

So yes looking at your image you can beat that cycle! And you win more then once!

Edited this in - Last thing dyksexlic never said you need a repeated number to win.  As matter of fact he said a repeated number is not the event you are looking for!  The whole idea is based on the pigeonhole principle.  Create a process that always happens and make your game based on the continuation of this process.  Here repeated roulette numbers don't exist.

This might have confused some of you but just read and try read and try and at some point it will make sense.

I did say red and black as you explained yes, for sure on that pic we are talking for main and derived replacing red and black with that.. Cheers

One question is how to remember this large data set with two threads. And place bets. This no longer looks like a system that a child can play.

And in your white bet there is no green, this is already a mistake.

Quote from: Person S on Dec 21, 04:27 PM 2023And in your white bet there is no green, this is already a mistake.

Wow unbelievable, how I missed that?!!  I'm glad you were here to catch it, sorry for my mistake 

thank you Person S!!!

      

The last time I bet on White the dealer took it as a tip. 

Quote from: 6th-sense on Dec 20, 01:28 PM 2023Yes derived position 1,2,3 will dominate 4,5,6

Statistical wise it doesn't,..

It only shows high cycle ending percentage in lo positional

Why?

because there are more cycles with 123 positions. For example, position 1 will appear in all loops. And position 6 is only in one. Nothing new or useful. Math trick.

(Sure it takes time and having to go back and read but still it's taken years to understand so why should it be any different with any of you...)

Do you include your self here Mel?

How this thread started and when it ended.. Can we go back!
Share your ideas maybe new ones. For sure the uniqueness has something!