i know crystal....i would like to give you one more if you want or anyone who wants it ..with the base to work from..based on comment 1503 by alexlaf

i would also want dilshods permission to share some stuff....i think it goes in conjunction with the very basic stuff...

Hey 6th - I did some investigating, I'm still working through the thread. You said somewhere around page 50 or 30 maybe that unhits will always equal the number of repeats by the end of the cycle. I am not finding that to be accurate. Perhaps a misunderstanding on my part?

Here's the ratios I've come up with for roughly 4000 cycles.

0.5882, 0.625, 0.75, 0.6923, 0.75, 0.7059, 0.75, 0.75, 0.7692, 0.6429, 0.7647

Obviously that's just a small sample. The mean ratio is 0.73.

What I am doing is excluding all the numbers that hit only once, and taking the count of the rest of the repeaters (so 2+) and dividing that against the missing numbers from that cycle. That was my understanding of what you had said.

Am I incorrect?

Here's the code(python), I don't see any problems with it.

repeaters_v_unhit = []
repeaters_v_unhit_ratios = []
for cycle in cycles_data:
    counts = Counter(Counter(cycle).values())
    missing = set(tableNumbers) - set(cycle)
    del counts[1]
    repeaters_v_unhit.append((sum(counts.values()), len(missing)))

for repeaters, unhit in repeaters_v_unhit:
    repeaters_v_unhit_ratios.append(round(repeaters/unhit, 4))

print(repeaters_v_unhit_ratios)

Quote from: 6th-sense on Jun 15, 02:17 PM 2024i know crystal....i would like to give you one more if you want or anyone who wants it ..with the base to work from..based on comment 1503 by alexlaf

6TH Share more info please.

Quote from: 6th-sense on Jun 09, 01:51 PM 2024well its 6 years ago and the anniversary of this thread...

Happy Anniversary 🎉🎈

I thought this forum has turned into a desert .. but seems the team is converging again.

6-th if for example with Lines our max is 6 spins is there a guarantee to catch  the win within this finite sett main + derived ?

i jump in this topic every year or so to see whats been mentioned. I do alot of football betting and ive come across so many people who make a loss football betting. Some create this seperate fantasy life where they pretend they make a living and have cracked football betting.

Theres always one way to spot these fakers. ASK FOR A PROFIT AND LOSS SCREENSHOT OVER 12 MONTHS.

6th sense started this topic with a method of making a living from the bookies, skip to page 10 and that method has now changed, skip to page 20 and the method has changed again, skip to page 30 and the method has changed again. ask yourself this, if this "method" was a winner why has it been adapted so many times....

all these "clues" are given because there is no method, its all to feed an ego of somebody who likes to think they are succesful and 100 pages in to this "method" has fed the ego massively. the "clues" are when the topic starts to die and the ego isnt being fed anymore.

6th you've shared clues, you've shared excel sheets, you've shared tools. This is where i know you will get stumped, SHARE A 12 MONTH PROFIT AND LOSS SCREENSHOT FROM THE CASINO YOU ARE USING.

Everybody wasting their time trying to figure this out you'll notice this request will be ignored OR there will be excuses as to why he cant send a profit and loss screenshot. Theres no harm in sending it, so the avoidance will confirm you are all wasting your time feeding somebodys ego and its time to close this topic.

Until a 12 month profit and loss screenshot from a casino (not an excel sheet) or a 30 day Roulette simulator screenshot  is shown, i urge all of you to stop trying to figure this out.

6th here is your chance to really feed your ego and make me look stupid. I can only think of 1 reason why you wouldnt take that oppurtunity....

I'm not one of those who would play this, but I believe that it still helped someone, maybe you look too negatively at all that, but you're right, when someone upgrades the system, it means that the system is definitely not good.

i dont think im negative, ive just spent years in the football/horse racing betting community to know that people who fail to make money, live a fantasy persona on the internet of being succesful to make them feel better about losing.

Everything ive seen in here just gives off huge red flags hence why im skeptical.

Tools shared
Hints shared
Spreadsheets shared
Info shared

Yet ask for a 12 month Profit and loss from the casino and this easily shareable information will be ignored or a list of excuses why it cant be screenshotted and shared.

The way I see it, someone has been more than generous providing readers with insights & working framework ..

It's up to a reader to take upon these pieces of information offered, peer into the insights & most importantly, develop something of their own .. IDK, English would say ropes are shown, now you are on your own to make something on your own that you own, externalize yourself.

But who the fuck are you to think that someone  owes  you anything .. 6th or anyone else.

If you have to satisfy overcoming your doubts, I think you'll get much further by pm-ing the relevant author about the system in question & perhaps, most likely get even more than what you requested.

Thanks TRD..as for tipman there are no methods shown of play on page 10...20...30..and as for the bookies I suggest you re read where ever that is...that was my son in law which I stated made the money from arbing...
This thread is a development over the years...not an ego statistical adventure..if it was I would not have shared so much stuff..

I personally think you are frustrated and not a very good tipman when you cannot read properly...you claim to be bookies gambling orientatated footbal. Etc.... yet you are here on a roulette forum ..

TRD has summed it up correctly...do not take his advice to pm though..

And please for the record for every reader point to and explain what betting method I actually shown on page 10. 20. 30...

And I mean actual method with explanations not guesswork you are referring to..

Like to know myself what they actually was

Not what you presume they was

Just because I deal with a football gambling community doesn't mean I can't like roulette. 

Im not frustrated, and neither am I expecting to be "owed anything." I can just spot somebody who has made a massive loss and comes online to crave attention to make themselves feel better and act like they are successful with the winning method. Your "hints" are classic imposter syndrome; they aren't a hint at all; they are vague to make people think you have something when you don't; your hints on the first 10 pages contradict themselves on later pages. 

I've given you the chance to make me look stupid and show a screenshot of your profit and loss, and like everybody else who has imposter syndrome, you've avoided it, which I knew you would. 

"This thread is a development over the years," so why did you make a post during COVID lockdown with more hints on how to use your "hints" to make money during hard times? If its still in development, then that's a bold claim to use your ideas to help everybody financially through COVID?

I think it's time to lock this thread and stop wasting people's time. Yes, youve provided insights, yes, youve provided software, and I'm sure everybody appreciates that, as you obviously have no issues with sharing things to keep people on the fishing hook. You've failed to show any proof that what you do actually works. Not only have you failed to show it, but you've clearly now avoided it. 

The reason for my post is not because I want answers; it's because it's unfair to the people who think there's something here worth pursuing when there isn't. My advice to anybody in these forums is that if it's roulette, football, basketball, or anything that involves gambling, there are a lot of people with imposter syndrome who make a loss but claim to have the knowledge and secrets. You also get scammers (not saying 6th is a scammer because he isn't); just simply ask somebody to provide proof of their profit and loss. 999/1000 will avoid sending any profit and loss screenshot, and you need to ask yourself why. It should be an obvious answer to yourself. 

Does a dealer change affect  the 37 spin cycle ?

6th-sense I think you just keep you doing you. The only reason I think people come on the forums is to get "ideas" and perhaps marrying one idea with another helps someone to develop something that works for... them... and not the majority.

I really hate this forum because it is filled with pompous a$$holes like TRD that suck at what they do so they come in here to trash other people to make themselves feel better about themselves.

i made around $6000 in a little over a month with my roulette strategy, but I am looking to improve it. I refuse to put it on here because of douche canoes like TRD (which sound like... TuRD btw). Why does everyone always have to prove something to someone else.

I put my roulette strategy up on the shelf because other people told me it wasn't worth it. then I dusted it off and added to it and BAM!!! I started making money with it.

It wasn't anything that anyone said on this site. It was just me continue to work on it to get it where it is now, but  I come on here for inspiration. I come on here to see what someone is doing and maybe tie it in with something I am already working on. Or I may be inspired by what someone is doing and take my game play and tweak their system with my style.

Whether it works or not.... it is just the idea of trying to figure out this puzzle called roulette. I have seen you on here for years 6th-sense, and I appreciate your input. Please do not stop because someone else can't play roulette.

If someone does not like what is being posted why not try being an adult.... and just keep on f*****g scrolling by.