*i still play flat bet the katt way with very positive results*   

And thanks for the table.

Thanks Katt,

Very fresh thinking lots of time and effort gone into this. Are the results all live dealer or were any airball machine?

Thanks
Jay

Hi Jay,
the results all live dealer and also from airball .
Stop lose can be around -150 units (and of course will hit sometimes )
but i am sure will recover in the next xx...  spins.

Hi Alberto,

when you say you play the hottest G maximum two- do you mean for two spins or do you mean two Gs?
For how many spins do you play the groups, and does this change when playing two instead of one?
How much is BR and how many times has it gone?
Lastly, thank you for the table. Without sounding too stupid- how do you apply it?

Thanks in advance,
Woods

Hi Kattila


i really difficult when try to following your system. This is the live result from casinosbo.com today, table 19



29   start track
32   g2
9   g5
26   g2
0   g1
26   g6
32   g1 - g3&g4 not hit
7   g5
24   g5
30   g6
10   g1
8   g6
10   g1
17   g5
18   g4   
25   g3   Trigger 1
25   ------> g?
2
7
20
29
2
5
32
11
5
16
24
24
6
6
17
6
1
23
0
25
24
10
36
20
10
12
30
2
9
15
19
15
4
11
25
22
24
36
6
19
35
1
30
5
15
21
1
18
8
34
0
28
29
29
30
7
19
4
3
6
16
7
29
11
22
11
16
18
18


Please, give me the light. Thnk's


Regard,
akuuka

Hi Kattila


I like this. I would like to ask the following.


What if you work with the groups in the direction of ball spin. CW / CCw.


Add the last number to group 1. This might help with repeats.


With this I would like to see a dealer spinning groups in sequence G1 - G2 - G3 ...  In the ball direction.


Cold and hot areas will be more clear. Even history for a dealer can be charted.




Cheers
TCD

Quote from: akuuka on Jul 06, 01:31 AM 2011
Hi Kattila


i really difficult when try to following your system. This is the live result from casinosbo.com today, table 19



29   start track
32   g2
9   g5
26   g2
0   g1
26   g6
32   g1 - g3&g4 not hit
7   g5
24   g5
30   g6
10   g1
8   g6
10   g1
17   g5
18   g4   
25   g3   Trigger 1
25   ------> g?
2
7
20
29
2
5
32
11
5
16
24
24
6
6
17
6
1
23
0
25
24
10
36
20
10
12
30
2
9
15
19
15
4
11
25
22
24
36
6
19
35
1
30
5
15
21
1
18
8
34
0
28
29
29
30
7
19
4
3
6
16
7
29
11
22
11
16
18
18


Please, give me the light. Thnk's


Regard,
akuuka

Hi Akuuka,
that way is the old one, there is an update in how to play
this. You have to bet on the hot movements(Gs) not round and round .
Please see excel file G1, excel file G2 and excel file Gmov.
Bet maximum on two Gs at the same time.


now your example:




29   start track
32   g2
9   g5
26   g2     G2 hot, bet G2
0   g1      L1 G2
26   g6    L2
32   g1    L3
7   g5     L4
24   g5   L5         also G5 hot
30   g6   L6  -36    L1  G5           now hot G6
10   g1                 L2                 L1  G6
8   g6                   L3                 W  +24
10   g1                 L4                 now hot G1
17   g5                 W  +6           and so on....
18   g4   
25   g3 
25   movement 0(if bet you bet same numbers like before)
2
7
20
29
2
5
32
11
5
16
24
24
6
6
17

Another way to play this is, same triggers but stay on the winner G until  lost  -36,
so after win on ex. G6 stay on G6 until  -36, then move/take next hot G and do the same.
Again,  bet on maximum two hot  Gs(movements), so 12 numbers.
I will give more detailes/examples  about this another day.


cheers

Quote from: Twocando on Jul 06, 02:19 AM 2011
Hi Kattila


I like this. I would like to ask the following.


What if you work with the groups in the direction of ball spin. CW / CCw.


Add the last number to group 1. This might help with repeats.


With this I would like to see a dealer spinning groups in sequence G1 - G2 - G3 ...  In the ball direction.


Cold and hot areas will be more clear. Even history for a dealer can be charted.




Cheers
TCD

Interesting Twocando , can you please give an example , elaborate please.
I know you play someting similar to this method   


thanks

Now this system is coded (flat bet version see excel files G1, G2, Gmov how to play)
and failed in the long run. I runed a large test around 100 000 spins and was down
around -10 000.  But in some tests was up  even after 10 000 spins(or 20 000 se next post)
This method with a good MM plan (and stop-loss at -150) still not bad ( my opinion)

see attach file(tests)

cheers

Another one (test)

Hello Kat!
I was reading over and over the first post of this topic,but I still don't understand one thing...

Quote from: Kattila on Sep 08, 07:30 PM 2010
12
7    is  G6 from 12 (see excel file NR. 12)
23  is  G4 from  NR. 7(see excel file at NR.7)
36  G6  from  nr. 23
...

Why "7" is from the Nr. 12 ? Not Nr. 13,for example?
I spent nearly 2 hours and half to understand - WHY? But failed lol
Explain please.
I fidn this system very hard to play,maybe makes profits,but very hard to calculated the next bets.
Cheers

MaxB,
You have to understand we bet for an event/movement no matter what numbers are
inside that movement(G). Movement from the last number spun.

This is how we track:
12
7    is  G6 from 12 (see excel file NR. 12)
23  is  G4 from  NR. 7(see excel file at NR.7)
36  G6  from  nr. 23

Why 7 from 12 ? because if you look at the excel file Angles 6 nr. at number 12, you will find
the number 7  at G6 (6th movement or angle).
Then if you look again(always) at that excel file  at number 7, will find the number 23 at G4
so 4th movement.
Then if you look .........................................at number 23, will find number 36 at G6
so 6th movement.
So on.............


This is how we bet :
-when is time to bet because you have a hot G (movement) take the numbers to
bet from the last number spun, always. So if for example we bet for G5 because is hot
we take the G5 from the last number spun(from same excel file), so each time will bet on different numbers, exception is when hit again same number.

Ok now ?

cheers

Hi! Heh, it took a while also before I get it when was playing it, nice system 


Timo

Oh God,thanks.
I couldn't get what Nr. we should choose. Now I understand it( at least I believe I understand it),I'll give it a try tomorrow. And will write back with the results

By the way,is it possible to play this system with BV NZ roulette? The absence of "0" won't ruin the whole structure?
Cheers

P.S.
I wish Ophis could make some kind of program that will calculate next bets it self,so we'll not have to do it manually