Bread Winner plus

[GLC]

The bread winner progression and it's variants are very stable methods if you like to keep your bets small as much as possible.
Here's another variant on the bread winner or also the Gr8players progression.

It's an idea, not an absolute, can't change a thing or you'll lose for sure method.  It can be adjusted to suit your desires.

This is an even chance progression.

Start by betting 1 unit per bet until you are down 5 bets. (This can be any number you want. 5, 10, 15 etc...  The larger the number you wait until you're down for, the slower the progression.)

Any time you are down 5 bets or more, the next time you lose 3 times in a row, make a gamble bet of half the number of units you are down.  (Half isn't cast in stone.  You can make it a quarter, half, 75% or all the units you're down).  (Losing 3 times in a row isn't sacred either.  It can be 1, 2, 3, 4, etc).

Once you make the gamble bet, the next bet amount is 1 unit if you're down less  than 10 units, 2 units if you're down between 11 and 20 units, 3 units if you're down between 21 and 30 units etc....

Once you reach a new high balance, reset everything.

This is a concept.  It's enough different from others to make it worth looking at.

Think about it for a while and I think you'll see the value of it.

[GLC]

Listen to me.  I know many of you will disagree with this statement.  Good!  It will generate some discussion.

All bets are the same.  That's why I like to play the even chance bets. 

There's no advantage to playing straight up numbers.  It just feels like there is because it takes longer for things to develop.  Wins can come more quickly and losses can come more slowly.  But there's nothing inherent in straight up numbers that make them more profitable than even chance bets.

Same thing applies to splits, streets, corners, lines, dozens.

GLC

[Ralph]

Listen to me.  I know many of you will disagree with this statement.  Good!  It will generate some discussion.

All bets are the same.  That's why I like to play the even chance bets. 

There's no advantage to playing straight up numbers.  It just feels like there is because it takes longer for things to develop.  Wins can come more quickly and losses can come more slowly.  But there's nothing inherent in straight up numbers that make them more profitable than even chance bets.

Same thing applies to splits, streets, corners, lines, dozens.

GLC

On tables using surrender inside bets has lower HE, and then should be better. In Europe EC are the best bet, HE at 1.3% and at
many casinos you have to tip one chip every time you win on straight up, like the second zero.

[warrior]

Listen to me.  I know many of you will disagree with this statement.  Good!  It will generate some discussion.

All bets are the same.  That's why I like to play the even chance bets. 

There's no advantage to playing straight up numbers.  It just feels like there is because it takes longer for things to develop.  Wins can come more quickly and losses can come more slowly.  But there's nothing inherent in straight up numbers that make them more profitable than even chance bets.

Same thing applies to splits, streets, corners, lines, dozens.

GLC

[vladir]

1-as you should know, in french tables, ec bets are much better;

2- the base idea is good, starting with a flat bet or very weak progression and increase it when we have a great ammount of losses... but i could never wrap it all in something that works long term...

[Ralph]

Bet half the drown down is a good way. The progression must be able to recover, which is difficult with to slow increasing.
I use to use parlay as well to try to catch up, a double hit at an EC is not so rare.

[bleep24]

Do not know if anyone is using this staking plan but I very much like the look of it as it has great flexibility.   I have done some limited testing on E/C`s.    I have been using R/B and betting both outcomes but to help with dispersal of results have been using pattern 4  red then 4 black then 4 red etc. etc. and obviously 4 black then 4 red then 4 black as the opposing bets.  Have back tested against Wm. Hill Live dealer and it has not failed (yet)  Because both outcomes are being bet it could possibly be suitable for RNG  (Only thing to stop it would be masses of zeroes)  Could also play O/E or H/L instead of R/B or all three options at same time!!! LOL.  Obviously it does not have to be chains of 4, it can be any selection method you like.    Can anyone see any flaws with this?     Anyone like to test it and post results, tweaks etc.

Good luck,
Bleep 24     (brian)

[atlantis]

Hi Brian,
Can you post small example of what you mean?
Thanks,
A.

[bleep24]

Hi,
Very busy to-day but will post to-night a sample.

Bleep24

[bleep24]

With this method create a column A and a column B.   You can use R/B or any E/C.     Column A - RRRRBBBBRRRRBBBB       Column B - BBBBRRRRBBBBRRRR.  As spin results come out mark off in each column whether it is a win or loss.   Each column is on its own.  Use Bread Winner staking or whatever you like.  Each column should work out about 50% wins/losses due to mixing up the spin results.  I have not tried it but in theory it could be RBHLOERBHLOE etc. and opposite on other column.  This will not produce vast profits but in my testing if there is a small loss in either column it is exceeded in the other one.   Because you are betting both outcomes it maybe suitable for RNG.  In my testing amount being staked is minimal (never over 20 units) so only requires a small bankroll.    Maybe a case for differential betting if you want to be ultra cautious.

[biagle]

ofcourse, why bet 1u on red and 1u on black? no point. as flatino introduced if you have to bet 2u on red and 1u on black then bet ONLY 1u on red

if you get zero you loose only 1u, not 3:)

[atlantis]

Thanks bleep24,
I would probably use the differential betting.
It's not what I thought you were doing though... I thought you were just waiting for 4 of a kind then betting the opposite for one spin.
So how come this is better?

A.

[bleep24]

Hi Atlantis,

Have a look at Odd/Even topic in notepad (I think)

Cheers,    Bleep24