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My new favorite E.C. progression

Started by GLC, Aug 24, 07:37 PM 2012

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GLC

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 etc...

We start off with a 4 step marty.  The vast majority of our wins will be one of these 4 bets.

The rest of the progression is just to recover if we lose the 1st 4 bets. 

After losing the 8 unit bet, we increase our bet by 3 units each time.  I have put the bets in red for a losing streak.

Once we win, we drop back 5 steps for the 1st bet,
then 4 steps for the 2nd bet,
then 3 steps for each successive bet as long as we're winning until we reach a new profit or we get back to 1. 

Note:  Because we don't move back 3 units on each win, after the 1st win and then a loss, we just add 3 units to whatever bet we are on.  This will rarely be the original red numbers.
If we are minus when we get back to 1 unit, we just eat it.

Any time you lose after the 4 step marty at the beginning, you add 3 units for your next bet.  Always drop back 5 units after a 1st win, 4 after a 2nd win and 3 after each successive win. 
These are wins in a row. 

So LLLW  That's a 1st win.
LLLWLW  This is also a 1st win.
LLLWLWW  This is a 1st and 2nd win.
LLLWLWWLW  This is a 1st win.

A 150 unit buy-in is a good stop-loss.

I like a 20 unit win target.

RBRBRBRBRB alternating R/B is a decent bet selection.  If you're on the losing side of the alternation, after 4 losses, bet for 1 repeat and then back to the alternation.

This is easy to test. 

Have fun.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

The idea behind this system is a counter-balance to Full TrioPlay or Tera TNT.  Those are built on a modified positive progression.  I say modified because even though you only increase your bets after a win, you don't move backwards on a loss.

With this system we increase our bets on a loss but we decrease our bets more rapidly than we increase them.  By increasing 3 units on a loss and decreasing 5 then 4 then 3 on wins, we move back to lower bets more rapidly and then we move toward larger bets.  This helps off-set the fact that we will get more losses than wins mathematically.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

This is no longer my favorite e.c. bet progression.

The killer is to have a lot of LWWLWLWLLWWLW.  These chops cause us to gradually drop back down the scale, but they don't recover very much on the way which causes us to be down too much when we finally get back to 1.

That's not all bad.  It does cause us to eventually get back to 1, but if it happens too often, we'll spend a lot of time recovering all the lost units.

I guess that's nothing new.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

MuppetMan

Hey GLC,
I havent tested it at all but if you are down once you get back to 1, couldnt you just start the Marty on a higher level.
If you used something like Pattern 4 as your trigger, how many times in a row do you go past the 4 step marty? If you get a pattern of RRBR twice in a row, bet against it happening again.

Will have a look at it in action. As dont know how much exactly you are down once 1 is reached.

GLC

Here's a little safer progression.

1  Bet 1 as long as you win.  On 1st loss drop down 1 level.

2  If win = +1 reset to 1.  If lose = -3, drop down 1 level

3  If win = 0 reset to 1.  If lose = -6, drop down 1 level

5  If win = -1 reset to 1.  If lose = -11, drop down 1 level

9  If win = -2 reset to 1.  If lose = -20, drop down 2 levels
10
11  If win = -9 move up 3 levels and then up 2 levels each win until back to 1.  If lose -31 drop down 2 levels
12
13  If win = -18 move up 3 levels and then up 2 levels each win until back to 1.  If lose -44 drop down 2 levels
14
15  If win = -29 move up 3 levels and then up 2 levels each win until back to 1.  If lose -59 drop down 2 levels
16
17  If win = -42 move up 3 levels and then up 2 levels each win until back to 1.  If lose -76 drop down 2 levels
18
19  If win etc...
20
21  If win  etc...


The 1st 5 bets are bet like a martingale in that you move 1 step after a loss and all the way back to the 1 after a win. 

If you lose the 1st 5 bets, you increase your bets by 2 units each loss.

If you have a win after losing the 1st 5 bets , you decrease your bet my 3 units after the 1st win and 2 units on each successive win until you get back to 1.

Any time you lose after a win, you just increase your next bet size by 2 units.

Play this way until you win as much as you want or lose your pre-determined stop-loss.

Takes a decent buy-in.  I won't tell you how much.

Test the system for yourself and you decide how much you need to buy-in for.


Have fun,


GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

My newest favorite e.c. progression
1-2-3-4-5  When playing in this range we play +1 after a loss, -1 after a win
6 thru 15  when playing in this range we play +1 after a loss, -2 after a 1st win and -1 after  each additional win in a row
16 thru 30  when playing in this range we play +1 after a loss, -2 after a 1st win, -3 after a 2nd and 3rd win and -2 after each additional win in a row
31 thru infinity  when playing in this range we play +1 after a loss, -3 after a 1st and 2nd win and -2 after each additional win in a row

If we're in a differnt level on our way down the bet line and we lose, we follow the stated rules for bet size decreases for that level.  This means if we use the rules for a 1st win in that range, a 2nd and/or 3rd win ect...
What we're trying to do is compensate for what's called drift.  This is the natural occurrance  resulting from losing more bets than we're winning which means with a basic +1, -1 progression, our bet sizes will be gradually increasing in size.
By stepping back down at a faster pace than we climbed, we can keep our bet sizes from escalating forever except in the rare series where we win equal to or more times than we lose.  This means we will have to take a loss during some fairly bad series, but it also means we should be able to keep our bet sizes within reason thus preventing any major loss of bankroll.
Our ace in the hole, so to speak and it's an ace of clubs not spades, is the fact that we will always start a winning streak by winning a larger bet than we just lost.

These movement numbers are not cast in stone.  You can devise your own with a little experimentation.
GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

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