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[F_LAT_INO]

F_LAT_INFO: If you can play on with en prison rule, it's obvious you should stick to EC bets. How do you combine them? Are you somehow splitting a progression, or are you flat betting some bet selection based on statistics and low probability of a negative trend happening on all chances at the same time?
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Mr Ore,
It is all explained in my thread--Random versus Random--
with explanation in attached excel,which was done as if
betting on La partage/los of half on zero/but since am now
only playing on En Prison table,it shows much better results,
and it shows only red/blacks.
Why all 3 EC?
Cause whenever one EC is going down the other two are making up,
and so in circles.Very rarely any loses 100 stop los,and even when that happens
other 2 are recovering that los easily.
It would be interested if this idea could be put in any BOT/mobile phone like/
And it is very obvious/tested and played for real thousand of spins/it always
serves positive results in first 30-50 spins...and now I apply this as a stop win .....
in my play.

[mr.ore]

Hmm, interesting, you play 3x D'Alembert on each EC, independently. At first sight anyone could logically conclude that this should not work, because D'Alembert does not work, and you want to play it 3 or even 9 times at once. I won't tell your method is that bad before I decide to code it and test it, I will have to add support for le partage into my code though. Some stupid basic old systems perform much better if you use differential betting or play them at once. Without le partage your system cannot work, but if you have a better balance with this, and experience proves it, who knows what is MTBF for this system (MTBF = mean time between failure), maybe it is a good system. If they can balance out, then why not.

D'Alembert itself fails because it is based on the idea that the number of wins and loses will be same in the long turn, but it is not the case with zero or double zero, and after a few hundreds spins it usually fails, it is really that bad system, I coded it and tested it for thousands of spins.

Have you heard of Contre D'Alembert? If you win you increase unit, and on lose decrease or even reset to one unit? Maybe that if too many of your subsystems were losing, you should switch for some time to that, because one system would be dominant, and others would be losing, and the one winning have to balance the loss of all the others. Balancing is really a really peculiar task, and it is better just to let the systems play independently, if you have no better method, than redistributing. It is so unstable if you take a few units from one systems and burden it to another...

[F_LAT_INO]

On La partage I tested the excel/cause most members here have access to it/
but actually I play it on En prison table,so have in mind this when and if you test
this.Ignore zero.

[mr.ore]

Zero cannot be ignored, it is the cause of all evil on outside ECs. It works like a clockwork, the more zeros, the greater house edge. Simulations showed it to me, that zero cannot be ignored.

No-zero roulette is the best game you can get, supposing online casinos do not cheat. And as long as you don't withdraw, it is fair game. With a knowledge of SD, you can survive long enough before you get randomly to the boundary of +2 SD, then withdraw your profit - x% commission. You have to compute real house edge to know when to withdraw in order to have best conditions though, the withdrawal makes it unfair game.

[mr.ore]

Your system with en prison rule played on French roulette with spins from excel file. No reset if you are down 100 units though.

[mr.ore]

8192 spins from Wiesbaden, en prison rule, stoploss 100 units, if your bet is bigger than your bankroll, you bet all you have, so as the session end matches stoploss in case you lose.

[mr.ore]

All 3x3ECs, each duo played independently, stoploss set to 33, 3*33 = 99 maximal loss in one spin. Played on your spins.

[F_LAT_INO]

Last jnight I played from 1am to 230 am 56spins and quit and went home
with 14 un. profit......and in the future it will be like that.

[mr.ore]

8192 spins, Wiesbaden, en prison,3*50 stoploss. Good luck to you with that system, you can have a long winning trend with that, hammer it while you can, it won't last forever.

[mr.ore]

Tweak with same spins, any subsystem resets only if profit is greater or equal (GEQ) to 40, or loss -50. En prison is utilized better this way, remember it is just D'Alembert. I have not yet programmed reseting all three subsystems if overall profit is GEQ then target and sharing a bankroll, design of my source code is not ready for that, I can just run as many subsystems as I want, but they bet independently.

I will later redo all my source code so that there would be more objects, multiple players and tables, shared bankrolls and chain of systems where one system could reset it's subsystems, a special object that would transparently optimize conflicting bets before the real bet is made, but normal systems would not know about it, bet selector object which will select where to bet, and systems could just say "I want bet X units on EC, select it for me", so that if betting 18 units the object would bet for example last 18 numbers, but system would not know at all whether the 18 units were bet on black or inside numbers. They could of course force the selection. Subsystems could create temporarily subsystems with fixed stoploss and target, and add them to the chain, after they finished they would be removed.

[mr.ore]

Contre D'Alembert, en prison, -50 stoploss, 40 target. 8192 spins Wiesbaden, 32768 spins rng.

[F_LAT_INO]

Nothing last for ever,my friend,but will continue as
it is holding up so far...10-20 units I'm very satisfied.
Will test all your ideas and thanks for your time and
very constructive suggestions.

[Mistarlupo]

...

I can think of two advantages of "p2p" roulette play:

1. Big total bankroll.
2. Virtual increase of the table limits.

The problem is that casinos will definitely not tolerate such thing very long time.

[Mistarlupo]

Hmm, interesting, you play 3x D'Alembert on each EC, independently. At first sight anyone could logically conclude that this should not work, because D'Alembert does not work, and you want to play it 3 or even 9 times at once.

Playing 3x D'Alembert will only make it fail 3x times faster, I'm afraid.

Betting on 3+ different EC's at the same time?
That's what I call a HUGE waste of money.

Good luck.

[mr.ore]

I know, I just tried not to be rude to other member and saying directly what I think about that. On the other way - the systems REALLY balance out, and it sometimes happen that because of that the hole is not so deep. For this low variance it is paid later when s*hit hits the fan...