9 numbers bet

[ignatus]

Did a short test on betvoyager (again!) To tell the truth, 9 numbers bet is the only bet i ever made any money on roulette

I was looking on how many spins it would take before a hit. At most 12 spins without one hit

I observed this, and noted down all spins (above 3): This are my results from betvoyager *(spins without hit)

7,5,4,11,11,12,4,5,4,5,5,7,9,10,6,4,7,10

What does this mean? it means, just using a simple negative progression for 9 numbers I would have made profit

Progression 9 number =

1.1.1.2.2.3.4.5.7.9.12.16.22.30.40.55


The 12:th step of this progression is 16. (Table limit use to be 20)

[Skakus]

I was looking on how many spins it would take before a hit. At most 12 spins without one hit

I've seen 24 spins without the chosen 9 hitting, and I've seen it go beyond 12 spins countless times.

[Chrisbis]

And.............unfortunately, I can testify it will go further than 24.

Best you could do, is build a tracker, that waits for it to have missed 12-15 times, and then play...
but you know what will happen......random will get you in the end, and go one more than either you BR will allow, or one more than table limits will allow.
And BV know this, hence why some time ago they lowered table limits....to reduce the effects of auto-bots.
But 9 numbers is one of my fav bet designs, that and Finales.
cheers

[ignatus]

I've seen 24 spins without the chosen 9 hitting, and I've seen it go beyond 12 spins countless times.

Well? I've played just now, +500 (with 1u bet). Funmode. Now, how come i've made 1000u on realmode RNG , yes i did, with 9 numbers +negative progression.

Extreme events can happen, yes, but they are not so common. Atleast not so common to make some profit

If you thinking of extreme events no bet will ever work... so, i dont' really get the point, i heard this before from Turner.

I really want to try this for real playing with 9 numbers & negative progression. I think it's a good bet ....anyway

[ignatus]

And.............unfortunately, I can testify it will go further than 24.

Best you could do, is build a tracker, that waits for it to have missed 12-15 times, and then play...
but you know what will happen......random will get you in the end, and go one more than either you BR will allow, or one more than table limits will allow.
And BV know this, hence why some time ago they lowered table limits....to reduce the effects of auto-bots.
But 9 numbers is one of my fav bet designs, that and Finales.
cheers

Very good idea to wait for virtual losses! That can be very useful. Thanks

9 numbers is my favorite bet also....yes. To choose a couple of numbers and wait for X virtual losses and then bet. Why? This could be the grail. lool 

[Chrisbis]

I choose 9 numbers in one section of the wheel, and stick to them.....
play virtual (again), for a while, wait till you sector hits once, then play virtual for as long as you dare
until you feel that the results should be back in your favour, then strike!

Lets take the number 0 (Zero)

I use this as my middle, or Pivot number. Its the same as my post on Bis9till5.
So, taking "0" and four numbers each side of it, will give us our new 9 numbers sector.

But one thing I have been thinking of, is using the Pivot number "0" in this case, as
a metaphor for a steering wheel, and being able to 'turn' the nine numbers either to the right, or
indeed to the left, so, the effect would be to 'shift' the 9 number choice around the wheel slightly,
and take in new number(s).

Just a thought.
cheers
(I can expand if anyone is really interested)

[ignatus]

Very interesting  Just how many virtual losses before bet is the question then ?

[Chrisbis]

That, and what is the meaning of life.............are definitely the questions! LoL

Test lots of different scenarios, and I'm sure you will find one....and flat bet too.

[Spin4Fun]

Virtual losses is something powerful, but you need to find the correct amount of spins, this depends on strategy you play, casino/table/dealer....
So you need to test.
Not enough  virtual losses, you still lose..
To much... you still lose..  possible wins.

This now easy to test in my bot

[TwoCatSam]

Guys

Referring to the L v F system by FLATman:  If you look only at the furthest splits, you will find they hit more times than the last splits.  I've watched and noted this many, many times.  So many, that I made a definitive statement about it.  You will have a few trots where last wins, but very few.

I am currently working with other things and other programmers, but soon I will ask Stef to eliminate the bet on last, bet only on furthest and run the sucker 100,000 spins and see if I'm suffering from confirmation bias.

Sam

[Priyanka]

Guys

Referring to the L v F system by FLATman:  If you look only at the furthest splits, you will find they hit more times than the last splits.  I've watched and noted this many, many times.  So many, that I made a definitive statement about it.  You will have a few trots where last wins, but very few.

I am currently working with other things and other programmers, but soon I will ask Stef to eliminate the bet on last, bet only on furthest and run the sucker 100,000 spins and see if I'm suffering from confirmation bias.

Sam

Sam

I did that about a week back when I was doing random tests.  You were marginally right. 50,004 further wins against 49996 last wins.

15 was the most streak of furthers, 13 most for last streaks and 17 most for chops.

My bot was running crazy with no zero dummy bets and auto restart on connection resets to get those 100000 spins. I will now give its well earned rest.

[TwoCatSam]

Yanks

I have seen far more than that.  I see furthest beating last by a wide margin.  As I said, maybe it's just me.

When time allows, I'll look at it further.

Sam

[Skakus]

9 numbers +negative progression.


I really want to try this for real playing with 9 numbers & negative progression. I think it's a good bet ....anyway

Yeah, well good luck with this, and don't forget one progression bust will cost you 1890. And when you get two or three of those in quick succession then you will have a mighty long grind on your hands just to get even.

but like I say, good luck.