double dozens/double column hybrid

[RouletteGhost]

Just thought of a quick and easy idea. Haven't tested it but seems like a good bet selection strategy.

How it works:

Flat bet 2 dozens, then win or lose bet the same unit on 2 columns.

Constantly switch between 2 dozens or 2 columns each spin, each time alternating where the chips are placed.

Example

Spin 1 - dozen 1 and dozen 2
Spin 2- column 1 and column 2
Spin 3- dozen 2 and dozen 3
Spin 4- column 2 and column 3
Spin 5- dozen 1 and dozen 3
Spin 6- column 1 and column 3
Or however you want to do it just randomly select dozens and columns on alternating spins. Always 2 dozen at same time or 2 column at same time

Roulette is a random game, perhaps throwing randomness back at it will help wins

[ignatus]

from my experience all bets that are more than 18 numbers are losing bets, even with progression. randomness is a b*tch, even if you have 4-5 numbers unbet they seems to always hit more...

[Chris555p]

Totally agree with Ignatus; least u bet more u win......

[ausguy]

Rich - Dozen/Column switching ideas have been discussed at length in the past.

I have some recent live dealer on line spins from Party Casino (PC), so let's see how they would go "in the field of battle".

The PC table limits on 2 : 1 bets are 2 - 2,000 ($, Euro, GBP), so I have chosen the well known triple up Marty progression to L6 & top limit as L7 exceeds the 2.5K any spin table limit. Most live chip tables are less generous with their limits. Typically a $5 Vegas chip table should allow bets to L4 at (all x2) $10,30,90 & 270 respectively for a min BR of $800. Alternatively a player could extend his/her betting by having a seperate BR for both Dozens & Columns @ $1,600 min. An extra option could be Zero(s) insurance bets at higher bet levels with the extra outlay added (or not added) to the 2 : 1 bets, it all depends if you want a 50% return or not if a Zero drops ?

PC  2 - 2, 6 - 6, 18 - 18, 54 - 54, 162 - 162, 486 - 486 & min. & BR of 1,384. Total bet/Loss risk is given & any win = 50% of that bet. Effectively we risk losing twice as much as we can win. PC use a 37 number single zero wheel @ better than 1 spin/min.

Spun    Bet               +/-
10B     D1/2, 4W       +2
11B     C1/2, 4W       +4
13B     D2/3, 4W       +6
25R     C2/3, 4L        +2
14R     D1/3, 12L      -10
24B     C1/3, 36W     +8
12R     D1/2, 4W      +10
28B     C1/2, 4W      +12
8B       D2/3, 4L        +8
16R     C2/3, 12L      -4
28B     D1/3, 36W    +14
23R     C1/3, 4L       +10
20B     D1/2, 12W    +16
34R     C1/2, 4W      +18
16R     D2/3  4W      +20
10B     C2/3  4L       +16
15B     D1/3  12L     +4
29B     C1/3  36L     -32
22B     D1/2  108W  +22
5R       C1/2  4W     +24
3R       D2/3  4L      +20
9R       C2/3  12W   +26
13B     D1/3  4L      +22
27R     C1/3  12W   +28
5R      D1/2   4W     +30
17B    C1/2   4W     +32
21R    D2/3   4W     +34
29B    C2/3   4W     +36
25R    D1/3   4W     +38
11B    C1/3   4L       +34
34R    D1/2  12L      +22
19R    C1/2  36RW   +40
Zero   D2/3   4L       +36
4B      C2/3  12L      +24
5R      D1/3  36W    +42
1R      C1/3   4W     +44.       36 spins & end of demo session. L4 ($10 chip Tri Marty bet, table limit) bet reached once & won.
                                               
                                           If these numbers spun up on a $5 chip table ($10 min. bets) then the profit would be +44 x 5 = $220.
                                           
                                           Good money for less than 1 hours work give or take, including faster B & M plays @ offpeak periods .

[nottophammer]

Hi Ausguy,
nominated you for mod,did you not fancy it.

regarding the above is PC 1min a spin,do you mean 1 minuet bet time, as i never play on line so know idea, was in b+m last night and could not get bets on, being empty.  Said at cash desk, Aspers could be loosing money as tables spin to fast, she said tell the pit boss and he'll tell them to spin slower. Yeah i bet.

[RouletteGhost]

my system did well there lol

i dont understand the marty though....??

[ausguy]

Hammer - Re : mod. I did not want to take it on. I like the quiet life.

PC has about a 15 second bet window & about 63 spins per hour. So just under 1 spin per minute. Dealers change every 30 minutes & the tables run 24/7.
They flag themselves as the biggest on line casino in the World. They have graded monthly payout limits from 20k to 50k depending on your play through amounts. A/Cs have the choice of 1 of the 5 major currencies. I've always been paid on any withdraws after the usual 3 business day delay thingo.

Their spins are always in 1 direction only. While the table limits aren't as good as Paddy Power (I can't play there due to OZ being 1 of the many restricted countries) the PC limits are still way better than many other on line & B & M casinos. Their EC & 2 : 1 rates are the same amounts which is good for 2 : 1 plays. Maybe worth a look but need to sign up ? Their program impedes viewing the play somewhat if nil money in a/c but still possible if you click ok on the overlay "fund up" notifiers.

[nottophammer]

thanks aus.

[ausguy]

Rich - TEST any progression you like against my 36 demo spins or any others to your liking & you will find that a triple up puts you in profit on any win (provided you stay under the table limit). Yes triple up loss amounts escalate rapidly but that's the inescapable mathematics of 24 number coverage for profit. A stop loss may be an option ? Although 2 back to back wins are needed for success = a nil money bet(s) until a win & then a money bet win. 24 numbers covered & the Tri Marty plan "ONLY" ever needs 1 win to profit.

The base odds never change on twin 2 : 1 bets in that you only win 50% of what you outlay/risk to lose. Where the 3 factor comes in is the 100% & 50% numbers. Break that down & it becomes 2units & 1unit. So lose = -2 units & to get +1 unit ahead the next bet needs to be 3 units ON EACH 2 : 1 position.

A double up win only at best gives you break even, = nil loss/ nil gain. It does lose out on strings of losses & takes X number of wins to recover.

Flat betting needs even higher win rates to succeed.