29 step progression

ddarko · Oct 19, 11:47 AM 2014

page 112 of that book, opened my eyes somewhat many many moons ago.......

rouletteKEY · Oct 19, 01:31 PM 2014

Quote from: ddarko on Oct 19, 11:47 AM 2014
page 112 of that book, opened my eyes somewhat many many moons ago.......

Yep...alot of good can come from that seemingly small bit of information...it just needs to be thought thru and applied appropriately...

see...always a catch

Turner · Oct 19, 03:51 PM 2014

A book I refer to all the time is "The Roulette Winner" by Lee Tutor

When I forget something, or need a refresh, I thumb through it.

Many newbies miss out the foundations of a subject and get straight into the jazzy stuff.

It can lead to ruin.

Unfortunately, the ruin comes to many well before they became an expert.

(There are recent members here now going for the jazzy stuff, and dont know basic probability or how many times a dozen can sleep)

Lee Tutors book covers many aspects of the game, including probability and MM

There isnt really "a system" in this book, but great info to make you a more wary expert.

I could use the same sentence to describe Brett Mortons book.

The Roulette Winner (for me) is the best Roulette book I have read. But I wanted to be an expert and understand all things roulette, not churn out some mechanical system I read about.

Disclaimer: Dont beat me up if you hate it

RouletteGhost · Oct 19, 06:36 PM 2014

Quote from: GLC on Oct 19, 10:56 AM 2014
link:://:.archive.org/stream/montecarloanecdo00bethiala#page/80/mode/1up

When you read this system, please note that the author doesn't suggest that this is infallible. He just suggests that you can have fun playing it and come out ahead on many of your trips to the casino.

While you have the book open, you might read some of the other systems. You'll see that not much has changed in a couple of hundred years of trying to beat the wheel.

Good Luck,

George

i had trouble understanding the authors system

it says to bet red if red was last, and if you win great but if you lose switch to black?

GLC · Oct 19, 07:32 PM 2014

Quote from: richbailey86 on Oct 19, 06:36 PM 2014
i had trouble understanding the authors system

it says to bet red if red was last, and if you win great but if you lose switch to black?

Rich, all you do is bet Same then Opposite then Same then Opposite then Same then Opposite etc... bet (1-2-3-6 or for less aggressive 1-2-3-5 or for even less aggressive 1-2-2-4 or for more aggressive 1-2-4-8 or for even more aggressive 1-3-7-15).

If you lose 4 bets in a row, it will be because you had RRBB or BBRR or one of these with a zero for one of the colors. If no zero, and you lost four in a row, just bet Same or Opposite two times in a row and return to Same Opposite Same Opposite etc...

The doublets (RRBBRRBB) are what kills this system but only if you enter it on the wrong step otherwise you win every bet.

Play around with it and you'll see what I mean.

George

rouletteKEY · Oct 19, 07:42 PM 2014

That's not really what he was saying (it is on the surface)...it kinda is that simple... and then it's not that simple... as he is trying to convey a method of attack to play into the game itself

The author is using the natural variance of the game and linking a short progression to it and hoping to tread water as long as he can. He opens that section basically saying it is not infallible.

The "Author's Method" is basically just a structured way to play with and then against a streak. (or for a chop) He then uses a progression to cover his losses as he goes...he hopes He is attempting to take the variance out of the game to a certain degree and grind out small gains or minimize his losses...he is not out to make a killing. He was simply fronting a basic rudimentary idea that he felt could be played rather harmlessly if people insisted on gambling (which he discouraged)

On Page 112 he further discusses the numbers behind streaks (which he then examines how essentially to implement a stop loss without really calling it that) and making the argument that over a large number of spins that by sitting out some of a streak rather than trying to guess into it that you can sufficiently extract a small edge against the game. How you choose to use and implement this information is obviously...up to you.

We all seem to be able to look at the same numbers and come to different conclusions as to how we should develop a method of play based on these "facts" and obviously we are all hit with runs of numbers that totally annihilate whatever it is we think is a proven winner. I am confident I will use the information and apply it completely different than you and everyone else on the board...that's what the forum is all about. Exchanging ideas so we can all see things a little different than we may be hard-wired or conditioned to perceive them and open up new lines of thought.

It's complicated...

RouletteGhost · Oct 19, 07:50 PM 2014

i think the best bet is to play a combination of systems

on a win switch the system

playing one for too long fails

rouletteKEY · Oct 19, 08:03 PM 2014

I generally play several simultaneously...some build on the others... and one or two compliment in an offset kinda way

that's the plan anyways

RouletteGhost · Oct 19, 08:17 PM 2014

My ultimate goal is to go 5 days a week and win $60. For 300 profit a week

Trying to find a way to do this with a thousand dollar bankroll

RouletteGhost · Oct 19, 08:26 PM 2014

I also thought : look at past 18 numbers that showed. Bet the remaining 18 numbers with a negative progression. Chances are if theres a repeat of the previous 18 numbers it would only be one or two at the most so a negative progression would be safe and the wins should roll

rouletteKEY · Oct 19, 08:37 PM 2014

Quote from: richbailey86 on Oct 19, 08:26 PM 2014
I also thought : look at past 18 numbers that showed. Bet the remaining 18 numbers with a negative progression. Chances are if theres a repeat of the previous 18 numbers it would only be one or two at the most so a negative progression would be safe and the wins should roll

That thousand might not last too long.

Keep testing...test some more...and then test another 3000 spins before you lay real cash.

That's my two cents...

dwa36 · Nov 21, 08:28 AM 2014

This progression will fail and lose the 450+ units required at some point. The problem is when deep in the progression you can get a run with no successive (or only 2 consecutive winnings bets). On average I would guess you could gain 400 units before losing the 450 over the long run. The key is to try and make 500 units before it does fail so when it does you haven't lost.

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