The King of Parx...TurboGenius

[Steve]

Correct, its a slot machine.

[Joe]

Steve, I have to disagree with you there. In slot machines the casinos don't have any obligation to tell you what the odds and payouts are, and they are programmable, although there usually has to be a minimum payout, which depends on the jurisdiction. By contrast, RNG roulette is supposed to be a model of real roulette and as such the payouts are fixed for each location (and the casino has to tell you what they are).

If you believe that the roulette RNG is fixed or the payouts are being manipulated you can confront the casino with the evidence for this in terms of stats which are statistically very unlikely, but with a slot machine it would be pointless to complain you're being cheated because the payouts and probabilities aren't known, and can change.

Doubtless there are some bent casinos where RNG roulette odds are manipulated, but that's not the same as saying that in general roulette is like a slot machine.

[Steve]

If the game outcomes are random then you already know the odds and payouts. From that point, its the same as a slot machine. Its more a matter of expectation.

[Steve]

the casinos don't have any obligation to tell you what the odds and payouts are

They adhere to regulations that stipulate payouts. Of course it varies between jurisdictions but this is how it is for every jurisdiction I've looked at

[Roulettebeater]

Steve, I have to disagree with you there. In slot machines the casinos don't have any obligation to tell you what the odds and payouts are, and they are programmable, although there usually has to be a minimum payout, which depends on the jurisdiction. By contrast, RNG roulette is supposed to be a model of real roulette and as such the payouts are fixed for each location (and the casino has to tell you what they are).

If you believe that the roulette RNG is fixed or the payouts are being manipulated you can confront the casino with the evidence for this in terms of stats which are statistically very unlikely, but with a slot machine it would be pointless to complain you're being cheated because the payouts and probabilities aren't known, and can change.

Doubtless there are some bent casinos where RNG roulette odds are manipulated, but that's not the same as saying that in general roulette is like a slot machine.

Joe ? Are you the joecoder ?
Listen, RNG is a predifined algorithm with a seed that keeps changing the generated numbers so they look like random, in fact they aren’t 100% random!

In addition to that, in RNG there is no cause effect, while a physical wheel can steer numbers that are located on Same sector.

[Joe]

If the game outcomes are random then you already know the odds and payouts. From that point, its the same as a slot machine. Its more a matter of expectation.

How would you know the odds and payouts for slots? If I play roulette I can select the bets according to the payouts and the risk I want to take, but in slots I can't do that. It's just mindlessly pulling a lever and I have no control over anything. If I choose to bet on a single number I know the odds (payouts) don't change as compared with betting on an even chance, but the probabilities do.

[Joe]

Listen, RNG is a predifined algorithm with a seed that keeps changing the generated numbers so they look like random, in fact they aren’t 100% random!

I know that. What's your point? It doesn't mean RNG roulette is like a slot machine for reasons I've already explained.

And how would you know whether anything is 100% random? ;-)

[Roulettebeater]

I know that. What's your point? It doesn't mean RNG roulette is like a slot machine for reasons I've already explained.

And how would you know whether anything is 100% random? ;-)

Come on joe! You are supposed to be smart as your name “joecoder”

Rng don’t generate random because they use static seed which can be captured. In other words you can replicate the outputs if you smart enough!