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G.U.T my opinion.

Started by P.A, Jul 05, 02:16 AM 2015

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P.A

Gentlemen,
I try very hard to understand Winkel's G.U.T,
but seem unable to really grasp the idea.
Maybe some gentlemen here could help.

I think that...

The law of third,
says most of the time,

ONLY "24numbers/37spins"

thus...


at the 37th spin.

if only 24hit/37spins.

13sleep vs 24hit .





this mean, most of the time,
if we take 24/37 as a parameter,
in 37spins,
hit will be more than sleep,
by 24-13=11time.

the tilt point, is when...
18unhit vs 18hit

thus from 18hit to 24hit=6more hit.

1]if there no repeat in the first of 18hit/18spins,
which possible but, quite low probability,
then 6more hit will likely to occur in next 17spins.
if we assume there will 24hit/37spins

this mean, the risk=6hit/17spins,
which will cause huge losses, if we flatbet all 17spins...and the winning come late!


Where The Risk?

if the
18unhit vs 18 hit,
[with presume 24hit/37spins],
24-18=6 ,there will 6 more hit, at 37th spin.

then to win at least a single hit,
=6hit minus 5 losses=1.
6hit + 5losses=11spins.

meaning we must win 6spin in next 11spins bet!


thus 37-11=26th spins.
this mean if at 26th spin,
the result is 18 unhit vs 18hit,
and we presume that 24hit/37spin, will materialised, then, if flatbet all
remaining spins=11spins, and the 24/37.
then u will win 1spin...presume the winning come late.

Of course if the winning come early, then why bet the remaining bet!?

18hit will normaly materialized after more than 20spins, meaning there will be at least two repeat.
If at 20th spin,
there is 18unhit vs 18hit,
then take 24/37 as parameter.
the risk= 6hit in next 17spins.

below a table of what I think, if we take the average=24hit in 37spins.
With the 18 vs 18 , as the tilt point.

if ..
if 24hit/37 as parameter.
18 vs 18 happend at 18th spin.
then at 37th spin, the risk, will be=6hit in next 19 spins!

EXAMPLE= if 18vs18,
happened at 18th spins=
then37-18=19remaining spin,
the risk will be 6hit in 19spins.

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if 18unhit vs 18hit happen at....
1]18th spin=then the risk=6hit in next 19spins.

1]18th spin=6hit/19spins.
2]19th=6/18
3]20th=6/17
4]21st=6/16
5]22nd=6/15
6]23rd=6/14
7]24th=6/13
8]25th=6/12 equilibrium
9]26th=6/11 sure win.
10]27th=6/10
11]28th=6/9
12]29th=6/8
13]30th=6/7
14]31st=6/6

above table assume that the wins come late and flatbet.

of course,
1] the win will come early.

2]the above just a risk table if u set the parameter to 24hit in 37spins, which may not happen!

3]u may adjust the parameter to 23,22,20 etc.

What U think?

P.A

Here another TABLE of what I think of Winkel's GUT.


Assume that we will have 24hit/37spins as dictate by the Law of third, as a MAJOR occurence.

Thus at 26th spin.
with 11spins to go,

thus if we have at 26th spin,

1] 11 unhit vs 26hit ,
then the risk, is over the 24/37 !

2] 12 unhit vs 25 hit.
then the risk, is over the 24/37 !

3] 13 unhit vs 24hit.
then the risk is within the 24/37 !

4] 14 unhit vs 23hit,
then the risk=1hit in next 11spins!

5] 15 unhit vs 22hit,
then the risk=2 hit in next 11spins!


6] 16 unhit vs 21hit,
then the risk=3 hit in next 11spins!


7] 17  unhit vs 20hit,
then the risk=4 hit in next 11spins!


8] 18 unhit vs 19hit,
then the risk=5hit in next 11spins!

9]19 unhit vs 18hit,
then the risk=6 hit in next 11spins!

10]20 unhit vs 17 hit,
then the risk=7 hit in next 11spins!

11]21unhit vs 16hit,
then the risk=8 hit in next 11spins!


of course, the 19unhit vs 18hit, will occur at the
18th spin. 19th spin, 20th spins, 21st spin,or even at the 37th spin!.

Thus Gentlemen,
we could see how the risk/reward,
in a presumed 24hit/37spins, in a scope of the 26th spin.

Of course u may make a table of 24/37, in the scope of 20th spin, 21st,22nd,23rd,24th,25th etc...

Above is just my opinion on how to bet the GUT.
and of course , if the 24hit, fail to materialized in 37 spin, and winner come late , then flatbet will cause huge losses.

Say how about,
19unhit vs 18hit
occured, in how many spin?
==================

19unhit vs 18hit
occured in the 18th spin,
thus the risk, if 24hit/37 spins,
=6hit in next 19spin

19unhit vs 18hit=
19th spin=6/18

19unhit vs 18hit
20th spin=6/17


19unhit vs 18hit
21st  spin=6/16

19unhit vs 18hit
22nd spin=6/15

19unhit vs 18hit
23rd   spin=6/14



19unhit vs 18hit
24th spin=6/13

19unhit vs 18hit
25th spin=6/12

19unhit vs 18hit
26th spin=6/11

19unhit vs 18hit
27th spin=6/10
and so on...
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Why 24hit in 37 spins,
because law of third says so!

In a test of million spins, 24hit/37  is the majority,
thus a huge win may offset the losses.

May someone please post  the most number of single hit in 37spins, after a million spins test, by the late Mr. Opps?

Any opinion.?

Thanks.

winkel

Quote from: P.A on Jul 05, 05:14 AM 2015

May someone please post  the most number of single hit in 37spins, after a million spins test,
Thanks.

5 28 4
There is always a game

P.A

Quote from: winkel on Jul 05, 05:53 AM 2015
5 28 4


Dear Mr Winkel,
Thank You So Much!

I need to ask you a very important question.

I once read in the web, but cant find now.

It is widely known that "only 24numbers hit" in 37spins,
is the most occurence.

Thus,

In the millions spins test,
what is the result of.
[in percentages]


Only 1 number, hit in 37 spins?
[I think none, 0%]

only 2 numbers, hit in 37 spins?
[I think, also none, 0%]

only 3 numbers, hit in 37 spins?

4 hit in 37 spins.
5 hit in 37 spins.
6 hit in 37 spins.
7 hit in 37 spins.
8 hit in 37 spins.
9 hit in 37 spins.
10 hit in 37 spins.
11 hit in 37 spins.
12 hit in 37 spins.
13 hit in 37 spins.
14 hit in 37 spins.
15 hit in 37 spins.
16 hit in 37 spins.
17 hit in 37 spins.
18 hit in 37 spins.
19 hit in 37 spins.
20 hit in 37 spins.
21 hit in 37 spins.
22 hit in 37 spins.
23 hit in 37 spins.
24 hit in 37 spins.
25 hit in 37 spins.
26 hit in 37 spins.
27 hit in 37 spins.
28 hit in 37 spins.
29 hit in 37 spins.
30 hit in 37 spins.
31 hit in 37 spins.
32 hit in 37 spins.
33 hit in 37 spins.
34 hit in 37 spins.
35 hit in 37 spins.
36 hit in 37 spins.
37 hit in 37 spins.[I think  none=0%]

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and ,
What do you think of my view and opinion, posted here?
Am I moving in right or wrong direction?

Thank You, Mr Winkel.
Thank You in advance.

P.A

Gentlemen,
I try to bet,
with what I THINK,
the Winkel's GUT, strategy

I dont know whether I get it right or wrong.
--------------------------

Dear Mr Winkel,

Did I do it wrong?
Please advise.

Thanks in advance.
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x=repeat of hit.

Euro wheel.

Spielbank Hamburg
Tisch 0001
01.01.2001
Gewinnzahlen:


17 [ 1 v 36][1]
   3 [2 v 35][2 ]
  18 [3 v 34][3 ]
35  [4 v 33][ 4]
24  [5 v 32 ][5 ]
  30 [6 v 31][ 6]
31  [ 7 v 30][ 7]
  25 [8 v 29][ 8]
  30x [8 v 29][ 9]
  16 [ 9 v 28][ 10]
  27 [10 v 27][ 11]
31x [ 10 v 27][ 12]
  32 [11 v 26][ 13]
15  [ 12 v 25][ 14]
  18x [12 v 25][ 15]
   3x [12 v 25][ 16]
11  [ 13 v 24][ 17]
  19 [14 v 23][18 ]
  19x [14 v 23][19 ]
31 x [ 14v 23][ 20]
20  [ 15 v 22][ 21]
20 x [15 v 22][ 22]
   5 [ 16v 21][ 23]
20 x [16 v 21][ 24]
26  [ 17 v 20][ 25]
   3 [18 v 19][ 26]bet next
31x  [18 v 19][ 27]-19lose
11 x [18 v 19][ 28]-19=-38
13  [19 v 18][ 29]+17 =-21
17 x [19 v 18][ 30]-18=-39
  30 [20 v 17][ 31]+ 18=-21
  30x [20 v 17][ 32]-17=-38 
  34 [21 v 16][ 33]+19=-19 
----
  14 [22v 15][ 34]+20=+1 
   7 [23 v 14][35 ]+21=+22 =stop bet
  19 [24 v 13][ 36]+22=+44
24 x [24 v 13][ 37th spin]-13 =+31

------------
10
  30
  18
  27
  36
  36
17
33
   7
24
29
  19
26
0
26
  32
   3
35
13
----
29
   3
  25
6
31
   9
  16
4
13
20
   5
26
13
33
  16
24
  12
  34
  12
20
----
   1
10
10
  30
   3
0
22
24
35
  25
13
17
   9
2
17
35
35
26
   7
----
  12
35
   1
  12
   1
  16
31
10
29
   3
17
  27
28
35
----
  36
  14
22
  34
20
  32
11
22
  25

winkel

Are you Blue Angel of 30Rouletteforum?

pls read Azims Threads to understand GUT
There is always a game

P.A

Quote from: winkel on Jul 05, 04:35 PM 2015
Are you Blue Angel of 30Rouletteforum?

pls read Azims Threads to understand GUT

Hi Mr Winkel,
With respect.

I am not BlueAngel, but Weird, in  30Rouletteforum.
I posted the same titled posting, in  30Rouletteforum,
to learn more about GUT.

I see that U also reply in the said thread.
Thanks a lot!
Hope to learn more from U.
Thanks again.
====================
ps.

G.U.T is in this world since 2008

First Rule is: Don´t bet more than 17 numbers.

You didn´t get the counting. Pls read the basics.
I don´t explain basics anymore

br
winkel
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[the above copied from 30roulette.]

I will read Azim thread,
but cant help, to comment on Winkel's quote.

'First Rule is: Don´t bet more than 17 numbers.'


Does this mean we wait till "16unhit vs 21hit"?

Then, bet the 16unhit numbers?

As we  "'First Rule is: Don´t bet more than 17 numbers."

as we see, betting the 16unhit, simply mean 21 had hit...
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But as Mr Winkel said:"pls read Azims Threads to understand GUT"

Then I must read them first before asking any more question!

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