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CIA documents, for people who think psychokenisis is nonsense

Started by Steve, Oct 25, 06:33 AM 2018

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Steve

I know why. Your ex-wife, like all women, is a succubus
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Kan@am@

Quote from: Bigbroben on Oct 25, 10:04 AM 2018
Okay!  ha...


Did anyone read the many books of Rampa the little tibetan monk?  Crazy stuff these monks would achieve with their minds i.e. bodies back then until mid 1900s.  Probably less active now that the chinese destroyed them all.

you don't need monks to see interesting events today

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_G1PlRV0sU

Steve

Kanam, we're not talking about magicians and hoaxes.
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Kan@am@

This person not a magician.Enyone can learn that.Every paranormal abilities are result of practice .Someone just have to know what to practice.

Steve

I think anyone with a real ability to do that would not be interested in putting it on youtube with a skipping rope and fancy music.
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Firefox

One wonders why the CIA would declassify such information. Surely it would be of vital use in operations if such abilities could be reproduced.

It appears to be part of The Stargate  Project a CIA group abandoned in 1995.

Wikipedia has this to say

QuoteThe Stargate Project was terminated and declassified in 1995 after a CIA report concluded that it was never useful in any intelligence operation. Information provided by the program was vague and included irrelevant and erroneous data, and there was reason to suspect that its project managers had changed the reports so they would fit background cues.

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Stargate Project was the 1991 code name for a secret U.S. Army unit established in 1978 at Fort Meade, Maryland, by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and SRI International (a California contractor) to investigate the potential for psychic phenomena in military and domestic intelligence applications.

Stargate Project work primarily involved remote viewing, the purported ability to psychically "see".

The Stargate Project created a set of protocols designed to make the research of clairvoyance and out-of-body experiences more scientific, and to minimize as much as possible session noise and inaccuracy. The term "remote viewing" emerged as shorthand to describe this more structured approach to clairvoyance. Project Stargate would only receive a mission after all other intelligence attempts, methods, or approaches had already been exhausted.

It was reported that at peak manpower there were over 22 active military and civilian remote viewers providing data. People leaving the project were not replaced. When the project closed in 1995 this number had dwindled down to three. One was using tarot cards. 

Edwin May worked as the principal investigator, judge and the star gatekeeper for the project. David Marks noted this was a serious weakness for the experiments as May had conflict of interest and could have done whatever he wanted with the data. Marks has written that May refused to release the names of the "oversight committee" and refused permission for him to give an independent judging of the star gate transcripts. Marks found this suspicious, commenting "this refusal suggests that something must be wrong with the data or with the methods of data selection.

An Evaluation of Remote Viewing (Stargate): Research and Applications Archived 2017-01-13 at the Wayback Machine by Mumford, Rose and Goslin says this
Quote"remote viewings have never provided an adequate basis for 'actionable' intelligence operations-that is, information sufficiently valuable or compelling so that action was taken as a result (...) a large amount of irrelevant, erroneous information is provided and little agreement is observed among viewers' reports. (...) remote viewers and project managers reported that remote viewing reports were changed to make them consistent with know background cues. While this was appropriate in that situation, it makes it impossible to interpret the role of the paranormal phenomena independently. Also, it raises some doubts about some well-publicized cases of dramatic hits, which, if taken at face value, could not easily be attributed to background cues. In at least some of these cases, there is reason to suspect, based on both subsequent investigations and the viewers' statement that reports had been "changed" by previous program managers, that substantially more background information was available than one might at first assume.

So while I remain open on Telekinesis in the future, the action of the CIA to declassify the research in the 1980s speaks volumes.

Firefox

I should also say that Stargate investigated anything paranormal including Telekinesis and Pshychokinesis. It was as well used as an avenue of last resort when other approaches failed.

Steve

Try this:


There's a lot of credible material to indicate remote viewing is real, and actively being used by at least the US govt. This is a start.

Regarding psychokinesis, see:


Could be fraud, but I dont see it all as such as impossibility. Why couldn't some people be able to focus a natural energy to move small objects? It's all just energy.

Also the CIA documents clearly explain the results achieved.

Sure the field is full of frauds. That doesnt mean there arent legitimate cases.

I dont 'know' because I've never experienced it for myself, or witnessed it. But again I wouldnt put it out of the realm of possibility. Our reality is not particularly well understood.
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Firefox

The CIA investigated Uri Gellar and RSP within Stargate. They thought he was worthy of looking into. We do know him to be a fraud and a magician though.

There is a case of Gellar reproducing similar drawings of grapes and a dove during the tests, but the control is open to doubt with both Gellar and it seems the CIA willing to use subterfuge to get a result.

Nevertheless I think you are right about ESP.  Just that we haven't got there yet. Electrical activity and weak electro magnetic waves definitely exist in and around the brain. But at the moment it's a question of power. Like the thought control of motion  experiments which have proved positive, the brain activity needs to be amplified and collected.

Either we develop as a species to be able to  project thoughts over many 1000s of years, or more likely in the shorter term we develop technology to amplify and receive those thoughts. This breakthrough could be just around the corner, or it could 100's of years away.

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