Question

[MrJ]

"the Casinos would shut because the HE isnt enough to make profit and pay the wages and overheads" >> Correct Turner. The casinos RELY on the HOLD. A great link I posted, straight outta Las Vegas, its a good read.

Ken

[Blue_Angel]

They cover 20 or so numbers and lose thousands. Ive seen it.

Probably what you saw was the ''Kavouras bet'', 20 numbers chaotically around the wheel/table, every win provides different profit and every loss the same deduction of chips.
From the first day I've read it till now still scratching my head about what's so special about it?!
Am I missing something guys?!
Perhaps one needs great skill in order to place random bets! 

[Blue_Angel]

"the Casinos would shut because the HE isnt enough to make profit and pay the wages and overheads" >> Correct Turner. The casinos RELY on the HOLD. A great link I posted, straight outta Las Vegas, its a good read.

Ken

Thanks for bringing this junk into our attention!
I was always wondering what's the casino hold, but not any longer thanks to you!

[Blue_Angel]

Probably what you saw was the ''Kavouras bet'', 20 numbers chaotically around the wheel/table, every win provides different profit and every loss the same deduction of chips.
From the first day I've read it till now still scratching my head about what's so special about it?!
Am I missing something guys?!
Perhaps one needs great skill in order to place random bets! 

He claimed that is intended for the connoisseur gambler, its price only 300 Euros, heck of a bargain!

[Blue_Angel]

Ken...Its nice to have reasons why you bet a certain way

The problem is that a lot of people dont have a reason.
The method should test the reason..

Lets start at the lowest...which I consider chinese and taxi drivers at my casino.
They cover 20 or so numbers and lose thousands. Ive seen it.
Ive seen them win 1000s on 1 spin...and punch the air. They have no concept of the fact they are behind by 6 times what they won.
Its sad and painful.
You have to admit....no one here plays that way. Even kens OK system is leagues ahead in one fact.
Its being played for a reason.....misguided?...perhaps but it can be followed by better play
In my case...better play is total control and staying in the game longer.
Im not losing or I wouldnt be still doing this but...it seems in the back of my mind, theoretically, I am

I dont think I contribute to the casino " hold" but I am subject to the HE.

Plumbers, cabbies and alike?
Do you have a list of hard working people you want to insult ?

Turner

Probably what you saw was the ''Kavouras bet'', 20 numbers chaotically around the wheel/table, every win provides different profit and every loss the same deduction of chips.Perhaps one needs great skill in order to place random bets! 

BlueAngel

[nottophammer]

So if a couple certain numbers were HOT from one grouping, the next grouping, we are starting over (sort of)?

Ken if you use stoopid, ROFL, it would not matter as betting numerically

[nottophammer]

Heres a ?
when i started playing 30+ years ago and you had to wait 48hrs to get a members card,before letting you in, so you could decide if you did not want to play, why the wait, you wanted to play.
The time of a spin was anywhere between 2/3 minutes, so why is it now 30 seconds if not busy.

Me, i think they know the bigger the spread of numbers you will win.
Here we go again, non-hit when you start are 37, so being the heavier, naughty word (DUE).

[nottophammer]

Here we go again, non-hit when you start are 37, so being the heavier, naughty word (DUE).

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Spin No. Repeat? Non-hit count Progression Result Bank
1 13 37
2 24 36
3 25 35
4 1 34
5 20 33
6 5 32
7 2 31
8 31 30
9 11 29
10 27 28
11 35 27 1 9 9
12 31 R 26 1 -26 -17
13 27 R 26 2 -52 -69
14 33 26 3 30 -39
15 32 25 2 22 -17
16 15 24 1 12 -5
17 0 23 1 13 8
18 8 22 1 14 22
19 18 21 1 15 37
20 1 R 20 1 -20 17
21 19 20 2 32 49
22 7 19 1 17 66
23 1 R 18 1 -18 48
24 0 R 18 2 -36 12
25 10 18 3 54 66
26 6 17 2 38 104
27 1 R 16 1 -16 88
28 28 16 2 40 128
29 29 15 1 21 149
30 22 14 1 22 171
31 26 13 1 23 194
32 25 R 12 1 -12 182
33 20 R 12 2 -24 158
34 4 12 3 72 230
35 12 11 2 50 280
36 30 10 1 26 306
37 26 R 9 1 -9 297
38 25 R 9 2 -18 279
39 34 9 3 81 360
40 8 R 8 2 -16 344
41 12 R 8 3 -24 320
42 23 8 4 112 432
43 17 7 3 87 519
44 36 6 2 60 579
45 11 R 5 1 -5 574
46 30 R 5 2 -10 564
47 28 R 5 3 -15 549
48 6 R 5 4 -20 529
49 5 R 5 5 -25 504
50 21 5 6 186 690
51 18 R 4 5 -20 670
52 1 R 4 6 -24 646
53 17 R 4 7 -28 618
54 36 R 4 8 -32 586
55 5 R 4 9 -36 550
56 19 R 4 10 -40 510
57 9 4 11 352 862
58 16 3 10 330 1192
59 14 2 9 306 1498
60 11 R 1 8 -8 1490

KTF made the 50+ units
But look 36 0x have come in 60 spins