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Cycles: Principle A vs. Principle B

Started by falkor2k15, Nov 28, 02:40 PM 2016

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falkor2k15

When Priyanka first introduced cycles it was kind of in a misleading, or deceptive, way in terms of their function and how they work. She insisted we use Principle A where the defining element is carried over to the next cycle, which is the way she chooses to play in all her videos:

1231
1...

The current dozen cycle now has a 63% chance of being defined "same" as the previous cycle. But that's not what is actually happening... The current cycle actually bears no relationship to the previous cycle at all it seems. Simply ignoring the previous cycle we get:

1...

The fact 1 has already appeared means that it only needs one more appearance to repeat, whereas the other dozens require two appearances to overtake the 1 to become the defining dozen instead. So this initial "head-start" by 1 is where the 63% comes from - not from the previous cycle - and we are not required to carry over the defining element in order to achieve it.

Since the previous cycle doesn't even cause a butterfly effect on the current cycle, playing Principle B cycles rather than Principle A hardly make any difference. With Principle B we do not carry over the defining element - we just restart each cycle afresh:

1231
3...

There's now a 63% chance that it will be defined by 3 simply from the first spin being halfway towards a repeat. So let's now discuss what differences exist between principle a and b, if any?
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

falkor2k15

Principle APrinciple B
Each cycle starts with 1 built-in virtual spin from previous cycleEach Cycle has an extra first spin to possibly bet
Defining Element more chance of same based on first spinDefining Element can be compared to first spin or previous defining element (2 choices)
Cycle Length and Order have outcomes that are not equally-likelyCycle Lengths and Order have exactly the same ratios as in Principle A
Cycle Length is 37% same as previous cycle; Order is 50% same as previousCL and Order SD ratios are same as Principle A
CL1 can only be sameCL1 can be same or different

Besides that I think some clustering may be different when using CL+Same or CL+Different as new constants otherwise they are practically the same. So why use principle a over principle b?

QuoteCan someone please confirm that the spin to end/define a cycle is included as the first spin of the next cycle ( A ) or is a fresh new/next spin the first for the next cycle ( B ) as the stats for both are totally different.
(A) is the right approach
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15938.285 (page 20)

And how are the stats "totally different"?  :question:
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

3Nine

Quote from: rrbb on May 04, 09:11 AM 2016
Hi 3Nine, not to nitpick: technically a cycle either starts on, and ends before a repeat, or it starts after a repeat and ends on a repeat. That kind of depends on the view.

The essence of these kind of cycles is that they only contain unique numbers!. In your case it starts with a repeat, so the last number can be left out!

Other than that: the cycles seem to be correct!

grts rr
Do I turn the wheel,
or does the wheel turn me?

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