Holy Grail by Winkel open for discussion.

[winkel]

but my question remains what is the rational behing betting at a crossing like this 2-2,

The reason is: There is a crossing. Nothing else!

[Priyanka]

I agree with Blue Angel, when I read that crossing has to happen, yes it has but this is not a justification to bet on it, everything has to happen soon or later not only the crossing
36-1 has to happen
25-12 has to happen
19-18 crossing has to happen
Repeat twice has to happen before hitting 3 times
And so on

Well Denis Paris, nice nick there! You remind me of the Beano

Apart from some awful words being used here, you do bring in a very good perspective.

I believe winkel has become tired of answering sceptics and I am not sure whether you will receive the reply you are expecting. I am not an expert in GUT, but winkel has clarified earlier that he makes an educated guess based on what is the trot and he explained in detail in another topic where he explained GUT in advance form. I dont see any issues in the way you are putting it, but that is only my opinion and I might be wrong.

25-12 has to become 24-13 at some stage, just like 19-18 has to become 18-19. This reminds me of the simple mathematical thing of adding 34+15. I was taught that add the digits in unit element first 4+5 = 9 and then add the digits in the 10s place 3+1 = 4, that makes it 49. But as long as I know how things work, no one is stopping me from saying 34+10 = 44 and 44+5 = 49. We all get the same answer. Likewise winkel is not using only crossing to determine his educated guess as he puts it, he uses a number of other elements like averages derived from large stats, trots etc to do it. So as long as you understand the whole 9 yards, (I dont and havnt spent the effort to), I dont see an issue with what you are saying.

[Parisd]

Well Denis Paris, nice nick there! You remind me of the Beano

Apart from some awful words being used here, you do bring in a very good perspective.

I believe winkel has become tired of answering sceptics and I am not sure whether you will receive the reply you are expecting. I am not an expert in GUT, but winkel has clarified earlier that he makes an educated guess based on what is the trot and he explained in detail in another topic where he explained GUT in advance form. I dont see any issues in the way you are putting it, but that is only my opinion and I might be wrong.

25-12 has to become 24-13 at some stage, just like 19-18 has to become 18-19. This reminds me of the simple mathematical thing of adding 34+15. I was taught that add the digits in unit element first 4+5 = 9 and then add the digits in the 10s place 3+1 = 4, that makes it 49. But as long as I know how things work, no one is stopping me from saying 34+10 = 44 and 44+5 = 49. We all get the same answer. Likewise winkel is not using only crossing to determine his educated guess as he puts it, he uses a number of other elements like averages derived from large stats, trots etc to do it. So as long as you understand the whole 9 yards, (I dont and havnt spent the effort to), I dont see an issue with what you are saying.

Tks Priyanka for your answer, sorry for my english, Winkel bored, not surprizing, sceptics will remain due to current evidences given for betting precisely at crossing. May be all was explained somtime earlier, I have mist it, and I am switching to reading your random thoughts