Is it really that hard to win

[nottophammer]

Come on
You don't need VdW, Pattern recognition, sequences in random numbers, GUT and many of the others shown.

What you need to do is take the 1st profit betting non-hit #'s, the larger group.

Here's J247 #'s
So 1st profit 7 units, oh look rrbb its 8/10. Dont you just love avg, whats my avg for 60 spins 30.5 non-hit.


So what would happen if you arrived 10 spins later and say i'll take 1st profit

[nottophammer]

speaks for its self

[nottophammer]

look 10/10, 1st profit

[nottophammer]

[nottophammer]

Not that hard is it

[nottophammer]

do you want to know what spin 11 is?

[nottophammer]

rrbb see you in 2 years time 

[nottophammer]

For those of you who have little faith in large #'s. If you go to ROTT topic i've posted the sheet from my little experiment on 1-7#'s over 10 spins.
this is spin 31 onward
If you look at the 1st spin of each new block of 10 spins, you'll see spin 11 1st profit and 21,31 but spin 41 lost.So when could you take the 1st profit?
Well theres 2 answers, one is use +1/-1, the other is flat bet, flat bet that'll have you all laughing


So £6 1st profit.
I'll be back with the flat bet in case Falkors reading as he can't see

[nottophammer]

[rrbb]

Come on
You don't need VdW, Pattern recognition, sequences in random numbers, GUT and many of the others shown.

What you need to do is take the 1st profit betting non-hit #'s, the larger group.

Here's J247 #'s
So 1st profit 7 units, oh look rrbb its 8/10. Dont you just love avg, whats my avg for 60 spins 30.5 non-hit.

So what would happen if you arrived 10 spins later and say i'll take 1st profit

Wow, this is so much simpler that VdW, if you are willing to learn how to speak roulettistanic that is 

I went over your ROTT threads. I counted more than 10 very specific terms and abbreviations. Then I stopped too much too much, my head almost exploded. You referred to elements from the GUT, KFT or KTF etc.

But to be fair. I totally like your method as it is very original

But I have a question (as this might be very useful to other forum members): what do you actually bet on? are you willing to describe it in 1 or two sentences?

[nottophammer]

Non-hit #'s at the start, further watching might show bet for repeat, but stop at 1st profit, start a fresh on another wheel, or in my case as 99.9% i'm on FOBT, a different machine in a different shop.

[nottophammer]

Your head, filled with to much info, info that is in away a process.

Now i'm no intellectual in math or english, shame on me, to much not going to school. But that should not stop anyone.

So lets try to get something right, or the way i see it.
KTF just a way of betting non-hit numbers, but the lesson is watch as many trots of spins, boring, i know. But untill Nextyear started WTF, i never bothered with repeats, totally blind to it, in fact i'd rather not have the thought of repeats in my head, but that seed is sewen.

What does WTF show, when favourable to bet for a repeat.

What helps with these two ways of thought, is it LOTT. Definetly.

Something you forgot, or not heard rrbb, countback, best piece of info i have ever seen for watching the trot, better than knowing LOTT.

So theres a lot to process.

Now after years of stumbling along, theres light at the end of my tunnel. Gut, showed me how to look at the trot, but still not good enough to win with, then WTF, showed how the larger group non-hit, become unfavorable to bet, so now its repeats, what helps on making the choice of whether to bet for non-hit or repeat, is the place of the present non-hit number to come, where its position is against countback, is it more likely to be a repeat as countback shows the non-hit numbers have/are way in front.

Then theres the Avg document, you all need to build an avg doc on the wheels you play, see how the non-hit number comes, know its avg to hit and the max spins its taken, surely if you've built an avg doc over 1000's of games, wont the max to hit slow down, only to increase by one spin after  100s of more spins or might you have its max.

If its max stabilizes, then you know its avg to hit, and the avg to hit has missed, now not actualy knowing which non-hit we are talking about so its assumption, but lets say the max is 15 spins, so this is likely to be the 21st/22nd non-hit, you could work out a progression for this non-hit number, as said waiting is not costing, dont worry about people saying your missing out on potential wins, when you are making sure its even more favourable that you get the win.

[nottophammer]

okay back from shopping, lets go on steves MPR.
So what do you do, take 1st profit betting the larger group, non-hit.
Look at spin 11 can you see it in spins 1-10, no.
Same with 21,31,41,51 even spin 61.
spin 63 #12 just a cross thru it as it came after 60 spins, i won 70 units just by watching the trot.

Now Maestro on there and we were discusing the ready button that dont work right.