I want to respond to win3million and receive feedback

[swanson]

Win3million.com can be found using the wayback machine (web archieves). Go to the January 2010 snapshot (or any earlier snapshot). It claims to give you clues to find a consistent winning roulette bet.
Charlie can be telling the truth, delusional, or lying.
If he’s lying, is he working for the casinos getting people hooked to gambling? Is he working for the casinos finding professional players, like card counters, to ban? Is he fishing for information or getting people to work for free to find a winning strategy? Is he just exaggerating? Was it a long scam to get money from people? Was he wasting people’s time?
His so called winning strategy based on cycles of luck doesn’t seem to work.
How can you consistently beat roulette when each spin is independent and random? How would cluster analysis predict where a ball will randomly land? I have an open mind; it is possible that Charlies bet exists. I do doubt that it exists, or at least like he makes it out to be. Also, he contradicts himself, e.g., two brains are better than one?, only working alone works. He says that he won’t help people who use forums, then Simon says him and Charles are looking for people on forums. He says you can’t beat the odds but only the game. Then says that you must find a bet that wins more often than the odds given. Wouldn’t this be the same as beating the odds? Also, he seems to cover so many things in roulette, that if you ever did find a winning bet, you would attribute it to him. Also, for winning $8million a year (I believe this is what 4 million pounds converts to in US dollars), isn’t 10% a little low to give to children in need. He’s all about giving to the children, and even says this is the reason for the site in the first place. He says that he knows people who got banned from playing roulette. If someone got banned from roulette, couldn’t he/she tell the bet to a trusted friend? If the government hacks their phones and everything, couldn’t the person tell the world in retaliation?

Regarding using a roulette computer sold on this forum... I can't afford it. I'm skeptical of it. Wouldn't the casinos just use this forum anyway to find out whose using these computers or make sure people only get fake ones? Can I use your roulette computer until I save enough $ to pay you back? Then, you can just say how would you know that I would pay you back.

[Steve]

Charles from w3m was a fraud. He had nothing and just wanted attention.

As for roulette computers, they aren't for everyone.

I'm skeptical of it.

You should be skeptical of everything in gambling that's for sale. Thats why you can test them on any wheel before buying. so there's no doubt.

Wouldn't the casinos just use this forum anyway to find out whose using these computers or make sure people only get fake ones?

Casinos hire consultants with their own computers to test. They are simplistic computers about the equivalent of visual ballistics. Casinos are unlikely to waste time on forums, mostly because the valuable discussions arent in public anyway.

Can I use your roulette computer until I save enough $ to pay you back?

There are some payment plans but if you're after the lowest investment possible, you can use the $80k version for free by joining an existing team (all you need is your own equipment like phones). Please see link:s://:.roulettephysics.com/computer-service/

Then, you can just say how would you know that I would pay you back.

Because people who own the computers can see all the results you achieve. They can even watch live video of you playing.

[swanson]

These roulette computers don't seem practical  . Roulettephysics.com says, "the videos should clearly show the entire spin, including the winning number. Otherwise accuracy can’t be assessed." You can almost never see the entire wheel. Roulettephysics.com also says that it will only test 150 spins in a live casino for $1000. This isn't a free trial.

[Steve]

the videos should clearly show the entire spin, including the winning number.

If you mean when assessing a video for proof, yes. Why would someone show only part of a spin?

You can almost never see the entire wheel

If you mean for application of a computer, you dont need to see the whole wheel. You only need to see where the ball and green zero pass.

If you mean my videos, smoe videos show whole wheel, others about 3/4 of the wheel for a closer view. Anyone wanting crystal clear proof need only take one of the options like the trial or demo. Really, its not complicated.

Roulettephysics.com also says that it will only test 150 spins in a live casino for $1000. This isn't a free trial.

Do more reading.

FREE TRIAL OF BASIC VERSION
* Our least effective version but 100% FREE
See :.roulette-computers.com/free-trial/

IN-PERSON OR LIVE WEBCAM DEMO ON ANY WHEEL YOU WANT
* For the advanced computers only (Uber or Hybrid)
* See recordings from previous live webcam and in-person group demos
* Test all you need on any wheel
* Very clear proof including predictions of when and where the ball will fall.
See :.roulettephysics.com/demonstrations/

If you want to test in a real casino, for a statistically significant amount of spins, you'll need about 150 spins. That's for YOUR benefit, to see proof. For you to know what to do in the casino, you will need training. Which is why I charge more for those demos.

Cheaper and easier options if you want to test on some other wheel, is hire a wheel, or record spins, and only show them at the time of the demo so its impossible for me to cheat. Recorded spins can be replayed at a faster rate, which saves time. It's all explained in detail on the website, so read it carefully. You're making incorrect assumptions from snippets of information.

Yes, this man speaks ill of people and says that everyone is a scammer except him

Passion, not everyone selling systems are scammers. I'll happily tell you that other sellers like Jafco, masters roulette etc are not scams. Advantage play isnt a scam. What IS a scam is when someone lies his ass off to everyone saying he isnt selling anything, and butters everyone up about him having the HG..... and then he secretly sells to members via PM. You did this. There's more Passion. The theories and whole basis of your systems are incorrect. I'm not wasting more time on you. You shouldnt even be allowed here considering how obvious your scam is. But in the interests of being transparent, I've allowed you to be here. Dont push it.

but he has proven that he has been a scammer and the greats, taking thousands and thousands of euros.

I've never scammed anyone in my life dickhead. I'm always blatantly honest and fair. Everything I offer in roulette is fully transparent, as explained above.

then he goes on talking bad about the people

I speak the truth about people, like how you lied to everyone about selling your system, then you tried selling secretly via PM. Listen Passion, the forum gets bombarded by scammers like you all the time, and they crack the shits when it blows up their face. So they take it out on me. Take a look at yourself instead of blaming and attacking me. No other forum in the world would allow you to continue posting after the shit you pulled, and how obvious your scam is. So think twice before you criticize me or accuse me of being biased. The only reason I'm allowing you here is in the interests of transparency, so people can make up their own mind about you. If they want to risk money with you, they can.

If you want to win at roulette, send me a message and for the price that he asks for a test of 150 spins

It's not just 150 spins. It is backed up with other data such as:

* A histogram showing even on losses, the ball lands an inordinate about of times close to the predicted areas. This forms peaks. I dont doubt you;ve got no idea what this means.

* Clearly hearing and seeing accurate predictions on when and where the ball will fall.

There's more, so its not just "win or loss", like Vaddis nonsense.

Passion, you're full of shit. You're running a scam. I dont believe you wouldnt know your system is rubbish. You obviously havent made money from it. You cant even afford a programmer to create a program that does proper testing.  I see you going in circles looking for a programmer to create the program for you, at a rate you can afford, so you can do proper testing.

Normally you'd declare a system the HG, AFTER you have the testing software, not before. Your stories are full of holes and I dont have time to constantly pull your bullshit apart.