Roulette systems - Permutations and Spin Pro 17

[Roulettebeater]

Charlie barley ?

Is he a scammer ? Why don’t you warn people of him ? He is still posting video on YouTube...

[jono1167]

I have been posting warnings in the comments section of his You tube videos. So far I have had four of his potential customers contact me.

I simply send them a link to the system which I paid $300 for. Once they watch the video they email me back thanking me for the warning. The video sucks and represents appalling value. You wouldn't even pay $3 for it..... It's pay-back time and I'm spreading the word. You should never screw your customers over!! .

[willvenus]

Was looking into permutations into permutations pro but am scared to be scammed. Glad I see your post. What info/link do you have?

[iamsky]

I'm glad to see your post because I were looking into permutations into permutations professional.

[icebaby]

Hi
Can you send the link to the product
400 dollar worth.let me have look.
In return I can send you another one which is worth for  testing.will send details if you can pm me

[macoohk]

Hi, JONO1167, I'm interested on this Permutations Pro system as well, can you share a link to me. 

thanks

[jono1167]

Hi, JONO1167, I'm interested on this Permutations Pro system as well, can you share a link to me. 

thanks

Just sent you a PM.

Thanks

[neuro]

you could send me the link too
thanks

[DobbiePotter]

Hey JONO 1167, could I have a look at the  system you paid for please ... I am unable to find the personal message option.

[Steve]

Did you mean Doobie Potter, or Dobbie Potter like the elf?

Also PM isnt available until you've made 10 or so posts, to prevent new account spam.

[Youtubitall]

Good morning

I'm a long time reader of this forum and first time contributor. I have been checking out a few systems which are currently being offered on the internet.  Unfortunately I have just had my fingers burned by one of them. Please see info below.

Permutations Pro
This guy has a couple of free systems which seem to work ok. However when I purchased one of his paid systems, I couldn't help but feel ripped off. $420 for a 12 minute video. The system was called ‘Alice in Wonderland’.  I must have been in wonderland when I paid for this….! Has anyone had any experience here?

Another system I have been seeing a lot of is Spin Pro 17. Has anyone checked this out? The website makes some fairly big claims so obviously the alarm bells are ringing. 

Any feedback will be appreciated.

Thanks

I was wondering about this "system" also bc in he videos ALL I see is lengthy videos and a bunch of talking... I'm glad I found this via Google to know...

[Blackjack Hammer 21]

When are people going to realize that there is no "secret" in casino games. Anyone who claims there are "secrets" are only trying to sell you something that is worthless. Charley Barley yeah another charlatan that wants you to join his winning "flat" bet team. If its for free or a small monthly fee like $10, $15, $20 a month and they re teaching you how to play then thats fine but if he is charging 100's if not thousands of dollars then its bs. Another Christopher Mitchell wanna be who doesn't teach anything new. I have done the flat betting and its not a "secret" which is what these casino gurus do all the time by claiming there is something in these games "you didn't know". The casino companies have "experts" that create these games to make sure they ALWAYS have an edge. Scammers act as if they have the inside information for you to win. They also put people down who work a full time job saying, "you will be working until you die and the government takes 50% of your wages". He is giving you what you want to hear. What is the end game for people like Charley, CM or others? They want you to buy their "systems", "strategies" "software" or join their "group" for lots of money that you will never get back. FYI He is selling you a "software" system when you email him to join his group that supposedly brings in a few units in profit every day.  $420 to purchase a system from Permutations Pro which is what he is selling.

Notice on one of his videos where he shows spread sheets with a bunch of numbers to make his point about flat betting and in the end he says, "otherwise have fun gambling, if you lose it all at least you had fun." This is a psychological way to suck you into his bs end game and make you pay money out of your pocket. Like I said if its FREE or a monthly subscription of $10 to $20 it's ok as long as there is value in it and you are truly learning how to play but I wouldn't pay 100's or thousands for bs thats nothing new especially if its some roulette, baccarat or whatever casino game software. I wouldn't buy it or subscribe monthly for it. Some of these guys are charging 100's of dollars a month if not thousands for these garbage software systems.