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Started by GLC, May 25, 12:46 AM 2010

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GLC

Fellow seekers,

This is a dozens and columns system.   

None of the rules are set in stone, meaning they can be tweaked a little to suit your playing style, but not too much.   

This system is based on trends.     There are no new ideas here, just put together in a little different way.     It is based on a system I read about over a year ago, but that system was betting on a double street instead of a dozen.     I like betting dozens so I adapted it.   

Okay, enough introduction.     Here goes.   

Begin tracking until you have a dozen and/or column that has hit 4 times.   
Eventually, you can play both dozens and columns at the same time.   

Immediately begin betting on this dozen with the following negative progression.   
Start with 1 unit.     If you lose increase to 2 units; lose increase to 3 units, then 4 units, then 5 units, etc.   .   .   

After each win drop back 2 steps.     So, let's say you finally won on the 5 unit bet, you would drop back to a 3 unit bet unless the 5 unit win brings your total to zero or plus, in which case you begin again at 1 unit and start over.   

You play for the same dozen until you reach a plus total of 10 units and then you re-track for a new dozen.   

There are some stop loss rules, but as I said they are not cast in stone.   

1.     If after 13 spins (and I mean anytime after 13 spins.     Could be spin 27) you win and your total is zero to -7 and your next bet is 5 or more, start over by re-tracking for a new dozen and a 1 unit bet.   

2.     If after 20 spins you win and your total is zero to -10 and the next bet is 5 or higher, start over.   

3.     If after 25 spins your total is zero to -30 and your next bet is 9 or higher, start over.   

4.     If after 33 spins you win and your total is -25 to -60 units and the next bet is 10 units or higher, start over.   

5.     If after 8 or 9 spins you have not hit your dozen, consider re-tracking for a new dozen but keep the progression at the same stage.   

These 5 rules are safety measures to keep losses from escalating out of control.     They are not mandatory if you don't mind going in the hole a 100-150 units before coming back out.     (Of course the possibility always exist that you could continue to go deeper in the hole.     After all, we are gambling and there's alway risk.   )

I have been testing this system for only about a thousand spins and have been winning at about .   33 units per spin.     I haven't had any major losses yet but I'm sure one will introduce himself before long.     

I have read about and tested many of the systems on this and other forums and I can't say that I've had better luck with any of them than this system.   

P.   S.     This system can be adapted to any of the bets: corners, dbl streets, sgl streets, splits and straight ups.     I don't think it will work so well on E.   C.   s though.   

Being an American, I've been testing it on 0/00 wheel so it should do a little better on a single 0 wheel.   

P.  S.  S.   I just wanted to add that if you are aggressive, you can play until you reach +10 without resetting everytime you get to a plus balance.    It's a little more profitable  because you can have some12-18 unit wins instead of 10-11 unit wins.    It's also a little riskier but not so much.    Victor has been influencing me and I've been leaning more toward the grinding mentality lately. 

Try it.     I think you'll like it.   
All questions welcome.   

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

The following sessions are from a sheet of recorded spins I printed out from Spielbank Wiesbaden, Permanenzen von Tisch 3 vom 02.   03.   2010.     This series of spins was not hand picked, just a random selection.   

Because I play with a 500 unit bank, I don't incorporate the Safety Rules 1-5 because the system seems to always pull out of a drawdown before getting even close to -500 units.   

I will be playing only the dozens to show you how the system works.   
Since I don't use the safety Rules 1-5, I don't need to keep track of the sequence numbers so I will only list the dozen spun, amount bet, win or lose, and running total.   

3
2
1
3
2
2
3
2      Dozen 2 has hit 4 times so we bet on it
1      1 unit      L        -1     Since we are minus, next bet increase by 1 unit
3       2 units   L        -3     Since we are -, next bet increase by 1 unit
2      3 units    W       +3   Since we are plus, start over with 1 unit bet (accum  +3)
2      1 unit      W       +2   Since we are +, start over with 1 unit bet (accum +5)
2      1 unit      W       +2   Since we are +, start over with 1 unit bet (accum +7)
1      1 unit      L         -1    Since we are -, next bet increase by 1 unit
3      2 units    L         -3    Since we are -, next bet increase by 1 unit
2      3 units    W       +3    Since we are at accum+10 we retrack for a new dozen
1
1
0
2
0
1
1     Dozen 1 has hit 4 times so we bet on it
1     1 unit      W         +2   (accum +2)
3     1 unit      L           -1
1     2 units    W          +3  (accum +5)
3     1 unit      L           -1
3     2             L           -3
3     3             L           -6
1     4             W          +2  (accum +7)
1     1             W          +2  (accum +9)
1     1             W          +2     accumulated total of +11,  retrack for new dozen
3
2
2
1
2
3
1
3
3      4 hits for dozen 3 so bet on it
1      1            L             -1
2      2            L             -3
2      3            L             -6
3      4            W           +2  (accum +2)
1      1            L             -1
2      2            L             -3
3      3            W           +3  (accum +5)
1      1            L             -1
1      2            L             -3
3      3            W           +3  (accum +8)
0      1            L             -1
1      2            L             -3
1      3            L             -6
0      4            L             -10
3      5            W            0
2      1            L             -1
3      2            W            +3   This session is over at +11, so retrack for new dozen
1
1
3
etc.  .  . 

You get the idea.    The next three sessions netted +10, +10 and +11

63 units won in 130 spins.   

I have gone as deep in the hole as 155 units before pulling out with a final win.   

With 500 units, I think that you will win so much more than you lose that it'll be a very profitable system in the long run.   

If you want to be a little safer, you can use Atlantis' 2:1 progression of  1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4,5,5,6,6,7,7 etc.   .   .    on a loss drop back 2 bets.     This wins less per spin but keeps your overall bets lower, but not really that much.   

Please don't play for money you can't afford to lose and test with funny money before you put your hard earned cash on the line.   

Enjoy,
GLC

In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

I just came across the system that prompted the tweak which resulted in this system.  No body seems to be interested in this system but just in case, the original system was called The Goldfinger System.  It can be read at blog.daum.net.  Add the word roulette and you'll get an area with a variety of systems for roulette, craps, baccarat and BJ.  All old systems that Wannawin posts periodically.  Some of them are interesting and may spark an idea.  I think that's why he keeps posting them.


If I keep winning with this system, I'll let you know some totals, otherwise this is a dead horse.

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

WannaWin

Thanks Mr. GLC

Of course there can be interest. Remember there are many more readers than publishers and not everyone can see the topics at once.

Allow some time and to motivate make graphics. Post-session results and sure someone will give you feedback, if not today, in the future.

Thank you very much for posting.

Do like me: if only one person derives a benefit of one of my publications, I think made a success.

Sincerely,
WannaWin
Roulette is the hardest game and the more exciting for everyone because it is easy to operate and pays 35 to 1.

Hermes

Even more guaranteed success would be tweak: Wait until one D/C repeats 4 times in row and than bet your progression against it appearance.
Hermes.

GLC

Quote from: Hermes on Jun 21, 06:26 PM 2010
Even more guaranteed success would be tweak: Wait until one D/C repeats 4 times in row and than bet your progression against it appearance.
Hermes.

Hermes,

I've never had much luck sitting forever waiting for a rare event to happen and then betting that it won't continue,  (No patience).  I've also never had much luck betting 24 numbers per spin. 

Even though the Goldfinger system was designed for double streets, it works well for dozens also.  I have done okay with this system.  I play on an airball machine with a 100 unit spread.  Even though some of the drawdowns can get fairly high, with enough guts to keep playing you can usually come back to a profit. 

I'm just testing the system, only playing for $0.25 units.  I have set a 400 unit max drawdown.  So far all sessions have been positive.  I know that 400 units is a very high number.  But, I think it's big enough to allow me to stay ahead of the game so a loss every now and then won't be too destructive.

Thanks for at least looking at the system and making suggestions.  I always take what you say seriously and give it full consideration.

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

Please don't read this unless you are serious about winning money playing roulette.

Now that you're all reading this, it's the same system but for Single Streets.

Track until a single street hits 3 times within 20 spins.  You don't have to track all 20 spins, just until a SS hits 3 times.

Bet this SS with the progression 111,222,333,444,555,666 etc...  If you hit and are not in the positive, go back 11 steps and continue playing.  If you are positive after a hit, retrack and start over, or you can play until you are +25 then start over.

If you bet 20 times without a hit, retrack for a new SS to bet and continue your bets at the same place in the progression.  This prevents us from betting on a SS that is sleeping forever.

There is no stop loss.  If you want one, you decide, but it should be not less than 250 units to give the system a fair chance to win.

If you have a large drawdown and then get back close to even, take a small loss, you decide, and start over.

This system will win enough to stay way ahead of any losses if you play it correctly and don't chicken out too early.

Test thoroughly before risking any money on it so you know what to expect.

lol,  George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

One modification to the above selection procedure.

Instead of waiting for 20 losses before switching to a different SS, when you see a SS trending (say 5 or 6 hits within the last 20 spins) jump onto that SS.  If it continues to trend, play it until you have 20 losses in a row.  Then jump onto the SS that has been trending most recent.

If you just chart out 300-1000 SS you will notice what I'm talking about.  Most of the time 1,2 or even 3 SS will be hitting much more often than is statistically expected.  These will often times continue for 100 spins or so.  I know there is an element of subjectivity to this selection process, but with practice you can get comfortable with it.

This system is pretty steady, but occasionally it can have some hairy drawdowns.  You have to be a progression maniac to play it, but if you are, you can rack up some $$$ also.

Good Luck
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

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