Does zero really have so much power?

[albalaha]

Zero is fatal for all sorts of bets except if someone is playing straight ups or wheel sectors.

[MrJ]

Why cant the zero be included in a wheel sector?

Ken

[Droganson]

Albalaha said EXCEPT straight up or wheel sectors so the 0 could be included in wheel sectors, Mr. J.

My opinion on the 0 is include it as a part of your system and you will win more times than you lose. I plan to include it in my systems even if it means having a larger bankroll and having less profits than I'd like. Put the house edge in YOUR favor instead of the casino's! Just my two cents.

[mr.ore]

There is no need to include zero in wheel sector. It won't change anything. What is to be dealt with is the fact, that there are more numbers than there should be according to payouts. There should be only 36 numbers for a fair game. It is simple to see the effect of zero on outside chances, but the way it works is no different from any other chance. There is not much difference if you play red and black or zero hits. Zero is just another black. If one black would never hit, and zero was hitting instead of that, the game would be still fair in this case. that means, that zero can be hitting, but even so red can have a winning streak...

So the question remains - how to deal with unfair payouts? That means to beat odds. How to beat odds? With progression. But that does not work forever. So we need to make a really good progression, and maybe bet selection. So there comes what we all are trying to do - make a good roulette system.

Criteria for the system:

1. Always betting one number.

2. Very mild progression.

3. Bet selection based maybe on awaked sleepers.

4. In 100000 spins, all 37 number if played this system on them, should end up with balance AS IF THE GAME WERE FAIR.

5. Never bet more than 1.5-2 units on average.

[woods101]

"No, it does not.


The Power is achieved by being payed 35/1 for a 37/1 outcome. "

-I'll second that.  Think about this though- The above fact combined with a zero on the table gives the casino a 2,7% house edge, so, when we lose, we only lose 2,7% of our bankroll yeh?

Woods.  (an enlightened Manrique advocate!)

[albalaha]

zero is not a taboo. just a number amongst 37 numbers of the wheel. It should be given as much importance as others. while we play outside bets or line or street bets, zero comes as a villain and destroys all probabilities. Zero can be kept or left as any one number of the wheel to remain unaffected from the house edge. When I divide wheel into three sectors (my self defined sectors not voisins etc.) I leave 1 instead of 0. It is a matter of choice.

[crownroyal]

I read about a very simple system, called force the zero.  You bet 1 unit on red,1 unit on black, and 1 unit on zero.  I won 3 quick sessions online and then came the losing streak.  It was almost like the RNG recognized what I was doing and stopped sending me zeros.  Has anyone else tried this?

[chrisbis]

Yep.
here.

[mr.ore]

Forced zero is a nonsense. Absolute nonsense. Illusion, stupidity. Usually wins comes in waves, then a number sleeps for some time. If you put two units on a zero and one unit on red and black, then if you are lucky, the zeros are clustered, and you win, but you also lose because of two units on red and black. Than it comes into sleeper mode, and you lose. RNG detects nothing, it does not care whether you bet red or black, it does not have to, because it is RNG. Forced zero is a system used to promote affiliate links to online casinos, it is a SCAM. Why should it work? No programmer is so stupid as to force more zeros just because there are bets on red and black, while there is more on zero - it would be only logical to not show zero so much, and take units from zero.

Better than forced zero - just bet zero with one unit, results will be better, because house edge would not eat so much.

[chrisbis]

Funny, I had said that in a very similar way some time ago in Forum, and was trying to add it to my post to crownroyal .
I couldn't find it in time for my modify of post.



Ur quite right of course.

It IS a scam.

It IS propogated in such places as the UTube video site.

Having said, that, everytime I have played on-line with free new money (Real Accounts),
then the ZERO (my beautiful ugly Green Goblin brother) has always arrived (the 1ST one)
within the session 10 spins.

Only happens when U log onto a BRAND-NEW-TO-U  RNG casino.

So maybe there IS something that the casino notes about Ur arrival and play!!!!

[crownroyal]

Thanks Guys, Appreciate the info.

[albalaha]

I read about a very simple system, called force the zero.  You bet 1 unit on red,1 unit on black, and 1 unit on zero.  I won 3 quick sessions online and then came the losing streak.  It was almost like the RNG recognized what I was doing and stopped sending me zeros.  Has anyone else tried this?

              IT IS SCAM. DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME.