A Message From Victor

[furple]

Yep.

Lets set Up a new Topic then, as soon as testing is complete, and the TooL is released for REAL TIME use.

I'd be up for being in a team. [attachimg=#]

Sounds like a plan.

[Richard]

A noble goal Victor - help people to help themselves. Programming is a very useful skill which can open up all kinds of doors. I will definitely keep an eye on your new forum.

Being able to program is great in theory, I wish I was a competent programmer. I can
design and produce complex roulette systems, but I doubt very much if I would be able
to attain the degree of skill necessary to program a complex roulette system.

If anyone disagrees with my assessment of becoming a proficient programmer let me know
I will be only too pleased to hear from you.

Richard

[superman]

If anyone disagrees with my assessment of becoming a proficient programmer let me know
I will be only too pleased to hear from you

Hi Richard

It's not that difficult if you understand the basics, it's just a matter of knowing how to manipulate the data you are working with, to learn how to start is probably best in pseudo code, for example making a cup of coffee in pseudo would look something like this

WANT = coffee x1

check kettle has water

   if not kettle has water
      fill kettle
         hold kettle under tap turn tap on

check kettle plugged in

   if not plugged in
      plug kettle in

check socket switched on

   if not socket = on
      switch socket on

if all above = true

turn kettle on

got mug ?
got spoon ?
   if no spoon, open draw etc
need sugar ?
need coffee powder
need milk ?

Its all routines to check if you have what you think you should have, most languages have built in functions to do all the checking, its just a case of using the correct function for the job.

Lets say you want to find the last time red landed, your tool would spin and add the results as they happen into a main array, then you could scan over that array looking for the first mention of red, the array would then return a value of where that red was found, this would give you a number eg, 6 spins ago, if that falls within your criteria you next step of making the coffee wouyld be to place the bet on black, then spin and then check the result

if win
reset progression back to 1
if lose
add to the progression, or multiply by 2 if using martingale

So basically its in 3 stages, any roulette strategy that is

find trigger

place bet

check win lose

You can then add all sorts of if statements for example, if you wanted to reset progression as soon as you are ahead, you would need variables that monitor the chip outlay and return, with some progressions dalembert for example, you go up a scale when a loss hits and go back down on a win, depending on the progression values you may go up to level 6 and after 2 or 3 wins be ahead in units so instead of waiting for the dalambert to hit the first stage again you could zero it out thus saving 2 levels of your scale.

Hope thats not too confusing for you

[VLS]

If anyone disagrees with my assessment of becoming a proficient programmer let me know
I will be only too pleased to hear from you.

Richard

Hello dear Richard,

First start by sticking to the most easy-to-use programming language you can find.

Any flavor of a modern BASIC dialect can do.

I recommend Visual Basic.NET or FREEBASIC

Then begin by learning programming concepts and doing tiny tasks, which can get more elaborated as you improve your skills.

Crawl, walk, run!

[Bayes]

Hi Richard,

I concur with Victor and superman, start off simple and don't try to run before you can walk.

You might like to try BBCBasic. It comes with a nice beginner's tutorial which doesn't assume any prior programming experience and you can try the demo version for free.

Programming isn't that hard, but it can take a while before you "get it". It helps if you take a methodical, logical approach, although there's plenty of scope for creativity.

I would also recommend this book. Following the design methodology will save you an awful lot of headaches in the future when your programs get more complex...

[Richard]

My thanks to superman, Victor and Bayes for your helpful replies.

I will seriously follow up your helpful suggestions and if it's ok I will ask any questions in
a new thread. Let's see if I "get it" within a reasonable period of time.

[VLS]

Hello dear friends, may I suggest we take the programming debate to VLS.cc?

There's a programming section where we can interact, so we keep the technical matters over there and focus in roulette here

[esoito]

JustBASIC is FREE!! I use it for my personal roulette stuff.

Active forum. Good tutorials. (It's the free spinoff from the more advanced LibertyBASIC)

link:://:.justbasic.com/


BBCBasic is OK but you have to buy it. 

You really need a free one to test the water first.

[Richard]

Thanks esoito for the info.

The BBC Basic seems ideal for a beginner, but will check out Just BASIC as well.

I like the comment in their news section:

"Our Just BASIC programming language gets mentioned as being used to develop software
for advanced submarines."

Surely advanced roulette systems should be no problem